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'This Was a Good Thing to Do'
Opinion Journal ^
| 07/28/03
| PAUL A. GIGOT
Posted on 07/27/2003 9:07:20 PM PDT by Pokey78
Edited on 04/23/2004 12:05:44 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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Iraqis' greatest fear is that America will cut and run.
NAJAF, Iraq--Toppling a statue is easier than killing a dictator. Not the man himself, but the idea of his despotism, the legacy of his torture and the fear of his return. This kind of reconstruction takes time.
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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: debaathification; iraqimilitia; najaf; paulgigot; rebuildingiraq; thankyouamerica; warlist; wolfowitz
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posted on
07/27/2003 9:07:20 PM PDT
by
Pokey78
To: Pokey78
Very good, optimistic article. Thanks for posting it.
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posted on
07/27/2003 9:12:40 PM PDT
by
PGalt
To: Pokey78
Good grief. Tell these people to pick up a gun and be prepared to defend their freedom if they want it. I can guarantee them one thing we will NOT be there forever. We might be there 10 days, we might be there 20 years. But we WON'T be there forever. Sooner or later they will have to defend their own freedom because if they don't, evil men will enslave them WHENEVER we leave. Guaranteed. Only they can defend their own freedom.
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posted on
07/27/2003 9:13:27 PM PDT
by
Arkinsaw
To: Pokey78
Which brings up the other large American mistake: The failure to enlist Iraqi allies into the fight from the very start. Pentagon officials had wanted to do this for months, but they were trumped by the CIA, State and former Centcom chief Tommy Franks. As usual the career state department officials get it wrong. I can't quite figure out what side they are on.
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posted on
07/27/2003 9:19:12 PM PDT
by
Paleo Conservative
(Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
To: Pokey78
Too bad that our "mainstream" media won't run this piece. It's also too bad that so many in the media haven't a clue what they are talking about when it comes to the situation in Iraq. I can believe the words of a journalist who has been there and seen with his own eyes, and heard with his own ears, far more than I can believe anyone else.
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posted on
07/27/2003 9:35:39 PM PDT
by
basil
To: Pokey78
Thanks Pokey. Good read bump
To: basil
"Too bad that our "mainstream" media won't run this piece." Most of the mainstream media journalists in Iraq are housed in one hotel in Baghdad. They rarely go more than four or five blocks away from their bed or the bar.
By an odd coincidence, 99.2% of all anti-American demonstrations take place in front of this same hotel...
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posted on
07/27/2003 10:00:20 PM PDT
by
okie01
(The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE.)
To: okie01
Most of the mainstream media journalists in Iraq are housed in one hotel in Baghdad. They rarely go more than four or five blocks away from their bed or the bar. By an odd coincidence, 99.2% of all anti-American demonstrations take place in front of this same hotel...
I think you confused your news stories. We learned last month that it is multi-star military brass and the administration bureaucrats who are in air-conditioned tents in Baghdad and some even have butlers trained in a special school.
--Raoul
To: RDangerfield
"I think you confused your news stories. We learned last month that it is multi-star military brass and the administration bureaucrats who are in air-conditioned tents in Baghdad and some even have butlers trained in a special school." But, since they never venture far from the Hotel Palestine, how would the media know?
Perhaps a refugee Ba'athist spun them a yarn...
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posted on
07/27/2003 10:37:58 PM PDT
by
okie01
(The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE.)
To: Pokey78
NAJAF, Iraq--Toppling a statue is easier than killing a dictator. Not the man himself, but the idea of his despotism, the legacy of his torture and the fear of his return. This kind of reconstruction takes time. I dunno, if he's dead, he's going to have a 'ell of a time returning. Don't ya think?
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posted on
07/27/2003 10:56:32 PM PDT
by
El Gato
To: Pokey78
Things improved dramatically once the Marines deposed a corrupt mayor who'd been installed by the CIA The CIA has long favored the installation of corrupt local politicians. Good for the Marines, who haven't.
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posted on
07/27/2003 10:58:18 PM PDT
by
El Gato
To: Pokey78
"You have to understand it was a Stalinist state," says Iaian Pickard Which explains liberal Democrats' fondness for it.
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posted on
07/27/2003 11:00:24 PM PDT
by
El Gato
To: Pokey78
Thanks for posting this excellent description and analysis. It would be so wonderful if the press wre actually a source of information, rather than the liberal hysteria machine it has become.
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posted on
07/28/2003 3:18:49 AM PDT
by
livius
To: Pokey78
Good article.
Gigot is usually a trustworthy writer.
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posted on
07/28/2003 5:03:19 AM PDT
by
RJCogburn
("You have my thanks and, with certain reservations, my respect."......Lawyer J. Noble Daggett)
To: Pokey78
President Bush declared the war over much too soon,That's a bunch of Bravo Sierra. The President said just the opposite.
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posted on
07/28/2003 5:30:35 AM PDT
by
Coop
(God bless our troops!)
To: Pokey78
The RNC should have a series of Iraq videos showing mass graves, torture centers like the White Lion and then pictures of the present Iraq described in this article. The RNC should show what a compassionate military looks like and make Americans proud of what is happening on their behalf.
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posted on
07/28/2003 5:51:10 AM PDT
by
q_an_a
To: Arkinsaw
Tell these people to pick up a gun and be prepared to defend their freedom if they want it.
They are. We are now training 1,000s of Iraqis to be policemen. We are also in the process of reconstituting the Iraqi army. But these thing take time(it's only been what 3 months). The political inferstructure of Iraq has to be rebuilt from the ground up.
In the end it will be up to the Iraqis to say what kind of country they end up with. What we are doing is giving them a shot at freedom.
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posted on
07/28/2003 7:45:44 AM PDT
by
Valin
(America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy.)
To: Coop; Pokey78; *war_list; All
You're right, Coop. Pres. Bush clearly stated it was the end of major operations...and it was. Both Franks and Rumsfeld detailed the
8 objectives of this war. The military's been working steadily at completely them all.
Thank you for the post, Pokey.
Most reporting from Iraq suggests that the U.S. "occupation" isn't welcome here. But following Mr. Wolfowitz around the country I found precisely the opposite to be true. The majority aren't worried that we'll stay too long; they're petrified we'll leave too soon.
FYI - thanks to Paul Gigot.
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posted on
07/28/2003 9:51:52 AM PDT
by
Ragtime Cowgirl
("For our soldiers, the global war on terrorism is personal." * Gen. John Keane, July 23, '03)
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Wolfowitz in Iraq
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Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz receives a small bouquet of flowers as a welcoming gift from an Iraqi girl upon his arrival in Salah ad Din in Kurdish-controlled Northern Iraq. U.S. Army photo by Spc. Kieran Moore, 101st Airborne (Air Assault) Combat Camera Team |
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EVOICES OF FREEDOM [Quotes from the grateful Iraqi people - update]
White House Website -> Iraq -> Liberation Update ^ | July 22, 2003 - weekly (usually) | Various - press
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posted on
07/28/2003 10:00:15 AM PDT
by
Ragtime Cowgirl
(“This is a great day. It’s unbelievable.” Yonadam Kanna, a Christian on the Iraqi Gov. Council 7/13)
To: Arkinsaw
Tell these people to pick up a gun and be prepared to defend their freedom if they want it.
Captain Dale Dye (USMC, Ret.) said last weekend that his sources on the ground
say that Coalition-trained Iraqi militia will be taking on patrol/police duties within
60 days.
The road will rocky and unsteady, but it looks like things are heading the right
direction for now.
The more time that transpires without a CIA/NSA-verified audiotape of Saddam urging
his minions to avenge Uday, Quasy, and grandson Mustafa...the happier I am.
As it means Saddam is dead, so injured he can't speak, is constantly on the run,
or so busy hiding out far from Iraq as to be totally neutralized.
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posted on
07/28/2003 10:08:25 AM PDT
by
VOA
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