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Andrew Sullivan: They think Bush is worse than the Baghdad bullies
The Sunday Times (U.K.) ^ | 07/27/03 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 07/26/2003 4:01:08 PM PDT by Pokey78

There was something wonderfully strained about how various media organisations dealt last week with the news of the deaths of Qusay and Uday Hussein.

From the BBC to Reuters, there was palpable — if sternly repressed — dismay. One of the first headlines that the Ba’athist Broadcasting Corporation put out on the news was: “US celebrates ‘good’ Iraq news”.

The quotation marks around “good” did not refer to any quote or source in the text. They were pure editorialising on behalf of the BBC, whose campaign to undermine the liberation of Iraq is now in full swing. It was not clear to the BBC that the deaths of two of the most sadistic mass murderers on the planet was in any way a good thing, especially if they redounded to the credit of Tony Blair or President George W Bush.

And immediately, of course, pundits started to criticise the American action as “extra-judicial”, as a violation of the law against assassination, and so on. Their immediate impulse on hearing this terrific news was: how can we spin this against Blair and Bush? Commentators on the popular American left-wing website Democratic Underground were more explicit about how they felt: “Doesn’t a part of you wish that Queasy and Duh-day were alive? I’ll admit they’re scum and rightfully so, but anything that lands even more humiliation on W’s grotesque shrivelled face is that much the better.

“It’s sad, really, that as despicable as they are, Saddam’s family seems to be the lesser of two evils when you compare them to the wretched little bastard occupying the White House and destroying America in the process . . .”

To be fair, this guy was upbraided by other contributors to the site. But he wasn’t alone. Here are two others: “What I really hate about the way our government has been taken over is that I’m at the point where I almost don’t want anything good to happen in Iraq, I want them to screw up, I want them to fail.”

Another vented: “Bush and his ilk are far, far worse than Saddam and his two degenerate brats, and that’s saying a lot.

Yes, it is saying a lot, but the anti-war hysteria that has crept over the British and American press in the past few weeks has tended to obscure the reality of what is actually going on in Iraq.

The New York Times, for example, which has become far less tendentious since the exit of its discredited former executive editor, Howell Raines, still refers to the contract killings and Ba’athist remnants’ murders of small numbers of US soldiers as “an uprising”.

It also refers to the American and British presence in Iraq as an “occupation”. You get the idea. Colonial powers opposed by restless population. Far more congenial to anti-war types than: liberators still opposed by remnants of totalitarian regime.

But all the evidence in Iraq points to something else: a successful war followed by slow but measurable progress in putting back together a brutalised and fractured country. Think back for a moment to what we once feared might happen in the aftermath of a war to depose Saddam.

Here are some of the predictions, cited last week by Paul Wolfowitz, the deputy defence secretary: civil war; destroyed oil wells; environmental catastrophe; famine; a refugee crisis; and the possibility of cleaning up after chemical and biological attacks.

None of this happened — in large part because of the astonishingly innovative and swift war plan. The most staggering result is that Kurds, Shi’ites and Sunnis are still on board for a united, democratic country. But instead of reporting on this achievement the press, which in large part opposed the war in the first place, has done all it can to turn this success into a “quagmire”.

Yes, there are obvious problems. The electricity grid has proven hard to get back and running again. The capitulation of the Ba’athist thugs in the war means that many dead-enders are still at large and doing all they can to inflict damage on American troops in order to weaken resolve in the US. We overestimated the need for troops and underestimated the need for trained policemen in the aftermath of conflict. We were too slow to recruit Iraqis for internal security forces . . . and so on.

These are all mistakes. But they are forgivable and they are all remediable. Steps are certainly being taken to ensure that obvious problems are tackled and resolved.

But nobody can or should deny that the lives of average Iraqis are now immensely better than they were under a vicious totalitarian state. I don’t know about you, but with every new mass grave being discovered, with every gruesome torture chamber unearthed, with every children’s prison exposed, the more obvious it is to me that this war was not just morally defensible; it was morally essential.

By and large, it seems, understandably skittish Iraqis agree. The most reliable poll carried out in Baghdad — more troubled than regions to the Shi’ite south or Kurdish north — found a steady majority of Iraqis want the allies to stay and view the future as more promising than the past.

As to security, for all its problems, the current situation certainly compares favourably with, say, the chaos in liberated Germany after the second world war where military casualties mounted as diehard Nazis made their last stand. But somehow I don’t remember the western media describing those isolated Nazi remnants as an “uprising”. But then, in those days, the western media weren’t quietly hoping for the allies to fail.

Why, I keep asking myself? It is perfectly legitimate to question — aggressively — the fallible intelligence that was used in part to justify the war.

But to use such an inquiry to undermine the attempt to rebuild Iraq is to compound forgivable government failure before the war with the desperate need for allied success after it.

To replay the war debate now is a fatal distraction from the vital work at hand. Even if you disagreed with the war it is utterly unfair to the Iraqi people now to use their future and their lives as pawns in a domestic political squabble. Yet some would try to do exactly that. Their agenda needs to be resisted just as firmly as the cowardly attacks by Ba’athists in Iraq. For they serve the same purpose: the demise of democratic promise in Iraq and the collapse of the West’s long and difficult war against terror.

We can afford neither. And it is past time petty politics ceased in the face of that reality.


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1 posted on 07/26/2003 4:01:09 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Howlin; Miss Marple; mombonn; DallasMike; austinTparty; MHGinTN; RottiBiz; WaterDragon; DB; ...
Sullivan ping.
2 posted on 07/26/2003 4:01:55 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
“What I really hate about the way our government has been taken over is that I’m at the point where I almost don’t want anything good to happen in Iraq, I want them to screw up, I want them to fail.”


Whenever I hear someone on TV upbraiding Ann Coulter for calling the left on "Treason", I am now glad to have this quote to pull out for them.

And yes, this is much of the discourse on DU. They would rather see this wonderful country sink into the sea and every soldier we have killed rather than this country do well under Bush's presidency. They hate him THAT MUCH.

And yes, that makes them traitors.
4 posted on 07/26/2003 4:13:36 PM PDT by I still care
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To: Pokey78
A gem, simply a gem!!!

Sullivan is a genius!!!
5 posted on 07/26/2003 4:14:52 PM PDT by El Conservador ("No blood for oil!"... Then don't drive, you moron!!!)
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To: Wondervixen

6 posted on 07/26/2003 4:23:17 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Pokey78
**Bump**
7 posted on 07/26/2003 4:27:49 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Pokey78
When this is posted at DU, expect enough Sullivan insults to make it look like a meeting of "We hate Queers International". Ah those tolerant lefties.
8 posted on 07/26/2003 4:36:47 PM PDT by Democratshavenobrains
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To: Pokey78
Bump for later.
9 posted on 07/26/2003 4:50:12 PM PDT by StriperSniper (Make South Korea an island)
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To: Pokey78
Another really good article by Sullivan.
10 posted on 07/26/2003 5:12:30 PM PDT by xzins
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To: Democratshavenobrains
“It’s sad, really, that as despicable as they are, Saddam’s family seems to be the lesser of two evils when you compare them to the wretched little bastard occupying the White House and destroying America in the process . . .”

Sounds like a line directly from Little Tommy Boy Daschle. He is always sad about something or other.
11 posted on 07/26/2003 5:15:02 PM PDT by doosee
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To: Paul Atreides
No fair. You know democRATs can't cope with butterfly ballots!
12 posted on 07/26/2003 5:22:27 PM PDT by Morgan's Raider
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To: Pokey78; Admin Moderator
Looks like, for once, we can actually discuss that other site as a legitimate news item.

Don't blame us, blame Sullivan.

Maybe this is a first for DU to get a mention in a media piece.
13 posted on 07/26/2003 5:26:09 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: George W. Bush
N/P. Thanks.
14 posted on 07/26/2003 5:37:32 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: George W. Bush
DU is a parody site of liberalism, right? Some freeper with a sense of humor, right? I mean, real liberals can't be THAT wierd, right?

15 posted on 07/26/2003 5:37:53 PM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: Pokey78
In the past I have lived in Britain and many other countries.

When in a third world country I would tune into the BBC World Service to hear the news. When I heard the words, "This is London" I knew a balanced a fair analysis of world events would follow these words. I listened to these words in South America, Africa and the Middle East. I knew the words were analysis without bias. Sadly to say the Grundig radio now sits silent. The words following "This is London"
are no longer without bias. I would like to turn my radio on again! When BBC World Service is of the same standard as in the past, I will turn my radio on again.
16 posted on 07/26/2003 5:41:21 PM PDT by cpdiii (RPH, Oil field Trash and proud of it)
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To: Pokey78
Pro terrorist whiners should Shut Up.
17 posted on 07/26/2003 5:48:03 PM PDT by johnfl61
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To: Our man in washington
DU is a parody site of liberalism, right? Some freeper with a sense of humor, right? I mean, real liberals can't be THAT wierd, right?

Brace yourself: they're completely sincere.

Their site brims with the sort of insane Bush-hatred that Tom DeLay gave a speech about yesterday. Look for it in FR's sidebars.
18 posted on 07/26/2003 5:50:33 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: I still care
That's a very good point ... In their hearts, they are harboring treasonous thoughts. They would have US soldiers die and the US be humiliated to spite Pres Bush.

Ah, now I know how the Clinton 'haters' were different. I dont recall a single Clinton-critic desiring either harm to our economy nor harm to our foreign policy. we may have critiqued both as flawed but we never wanted it to go worse than otherwise.

19 posted on 07/26/2003 6:22:13 PM PDT by WOSG (We liberated Iraq. Now Let's Free Cuba, North Korea, Iran, China, Tibet, Syria, ...)
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To: George W. Bush
"Maybe this is a first for DU..."

And how appropriate a mention!

Namely, and exquisitely, as an example of sociopathic Factionalism, an often fatal disease of Republics.

20 posted on 07/26/2003 7:03:31 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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