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Judge Bork, baptized at 76
U.S. News & World Report ^ | 7/22/03 | Paul Bedard With David LaGesse

Posted on 07/24/2003 11:31:43 AM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: Campion
You're still on my "ignore" list, Campion; I broke my rule again, but only briefly.

Your terrible privilege is to choose to preach manmade traditions and impotent rituals, to the glory of a sect, to the damnation of precious souls.

I'll go on preaching Jesus Christ as sole and sufficient Savior, by His grace alone, through faith alone, from the Word of God alone, to the glory of God alone.

But you'll have the poorer deal.

Dan
121 posted on 07/24/2003 5:13:08 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: nickcarraway
Welcome to the fold, Judge Bork!
122 posted on 07/24/2003 5:15:38 PM PDT by Dusty Rose
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I'm not saying you're wrong - I'm just saying I know people who consider themselves Reformed who cavil at infant baptism.
123 posted on 07/24/2003 5:18:17 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: mdmathis6
What do you think Baptism is, but the symbolic putting off of the old man and the raising up of the new.

Nothing in Scripture says that baptism is merely symbolic.

124 posted on 07/24/2003 5:22:08 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Simcha7
“Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God” (John 3:5).

When did the water part become unimportant and optional? We receive remission of our sins through the laver of regeneration,ie Baptism. It's not optional.

125 posted on 07/24/2003 5:22:43 PM PDT by Clintons a commie
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To: BibChr
Your terrible privilege is to choose to preach manmade traditions and impotent rituals, to the glory of a sect, to the damnation of precious souls.

I'll go on preaching Biblical Christianity, all of it, thanks be to God. You'll go on claiming to.

126 posted on 07/24/2003 5:23:44 PM PDT by Campion
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To: BibChr
impotent rituals

By the way, do you really think God commanded "impotent rituals" -- because he certainly commanded baptism -- and sent Ananias, under the guise of a righteous man, to lie to Paul?

What kind of God does that?

Why don't you just believe in the Scriptures, instead of clinging to silly slogans that stick four things while simultaneously insisting that they're "alone". (That flunks logic, not to mention Scripture.)

127 posted on 07/24/2003 5:27:33 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Campion
I used the term "symbolic" but I was not denying the reality
behind what I called symbolic. We put off the "old man" we "put on Christ". That is symbolic of the very real spiritual reality that occurs within the hearts of converts. You're being a little anal aren't you?
128 posted on 07/24/2003 5:33:07 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Campion
Good points, Campion! I'm sorry I'm too tired to help out, but you do a good job of fighting back the neo-Platonic gauze. Next thing you know they'll be saying Christ didn't even have to be incarnated. He could have easily been a ball of light that appeared when folks wished ever-so-hard.
129 posted on 07/24/2003 5:35:31 PM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: Campion
I generally don't intervene in the quarrels of others, but sola scriptura is not a silly slogan. It's what most Protestant churches ostensibly rely upon in testing the accuracy of church dogma.
130 posted on 07/24/2003 5:39:13 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Puddleglum
Heaven resists the complexities that men ascribe to her!
131 posted on 07/24/2003 5:41:47 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Mr. Lucky
"I generally don't intervene in the quarrels of others, but sola scriptura is not a silly slogan. It's what most Protestant churches ostensibly rely upon in testing the accuracy of church dogma"


Sola Scriptura is also a road map back home when prodical sons..and institutions... need to find their way back home!
132 posted on 07/24/2003 5:45:38 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Campion; BibChr
"I'll go on preaching Biblical Christianity, all of it, thanks be to God. You'll go on claiming to."

You claim to preach BIBLICAL Christianity while sneering at the notion of Sola Scriptura...that's like cutting a stream off from its own source don't you think?
133 posted on 07/24/2003 5:50:51 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: mdmathis6
Heaven resists the complexities that men ascribe to her!

Heaven resists bumper-sticker theology and images of praying "Calvins" on the backs of pickup trucks.

134 posted on 07/24/2003 5:59:29 PM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: NYer
Welcome Home, Judge Bork! ping ...


135 posted on 07/24/2003 6:01:56 PM PDT by victim soul
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To: mdmathis6
Prepare for a barrage of irrelevant, long-since-refuted, cut and paste blather.

But you'll still have been right.

Dan
136 posted on 07/24/2003 6:02:25 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: wideawake
You should ask the Presbyterian minister the circumstances for his children's baptism. I would bet it wasn't for theological reasons that they were baptised as teens and not infants.

Infant baptism is a basic principle of the Reformed faith. It's not something that's debated. But it's not a means of "soul-saving" to the Presbyterian, as it is to the Catholic or Evangelical.

FWIW, our sons were baptised in our Presbyterian church as pre-teens, not infants. This was only due to the fact that we finally found a church we liked and wanted to be a part of.

But Reformed means infant baptism.

137 posted on 07/24/2003 6:04:40 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: BibChr; Campion
Chalk one up for Campion. It sounds like UnBibChr can't win the arguement and can't take losing it.
138 posted on 07/24/2003 6:07:31 PM PDT by Flying Circus (orthodoxy requires orthopraxy)
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To: nickcarraway
Welcome to the family, Judge Bork :)
139 posted on 07/24/2003 6:11:34 PM PDT by Libertina
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To: Flying Circus
Don't know you. In spite of your foolish, baseless, ignorant comment, you get one try.

Could you "win the argument" with James Carville about whether or not Bill Clinton was a wonderful, superb president who should not have been impeached — win it in his eyes, and in the eyes of an audience full of Lanny Davises and Eleanor Clifts? If so, how? If not, why not?

Think before you write this time. Answer directly and honestly, or please don't bother.

Dan
140 posted on 07/24/2003 6:13:49 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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