Freeper Grassroots Movement to Re-Elect Bush

July 24, 2003 | nwrep

[nwrep]

I want to kick off a grass-roots movement to educate and inform discerning Democrats about the real nature of their party and am soliciting suggestions from Freepers. The reasons I am doing this are several, as listed below:

* I have several conservative Democrat friends who have always voted D, but who disagree with the stance of their party on issues like AA, tax-cuts, and regulations.

* These people do not understand that regardless of the "moderate" local Dem candidate they vote for, the party agenda is driven in Congress by an extremely liberal faction of the party.

* Case in point #1: I alerted one friend to Rep. Rangel's remarks about the death of Hussein's sons yesterday (Rangel said it was "illegal" for the US to kill them). The friend said he disagreed with Rangel, and the majority of the Dems would similarly disagree with the Congressman. I asked this friend if he knew who Rangel was. He had never heard of him. I informed him coolly that if the Dem regain the House, Rangel would become the Chairman of the powerful Ways and Means Cte., where all spending bills originate, and that he is one of the most influential members of his party in the House. The friend was shocked.

* Case in point #2: I asked another Dem friend what he thought of Kerry. He gave me a canned response about his Vietnam service, etc. I then asked him if he knew about his anti-Vietnam war stance. He said he did not, but that his parents (lifelong Dem voters like himself) hated Jane Fonda and everything she stood for. I then forwarded him the NewsMax expose of Kerr's Vietnam stance, his anti-war book, his rallies with Fonda and Ramsey Clark, and his statement to the US Senate in 1971. After reading all that, he said he was disgusted, and would forward it to his mother. He conceded that if Kerry were to be the nominee, he would vote for Bush.

* The problem is that these Dem voters are blissfully unaware of the voting records of their candidates and representatives. All they go by are finely crafted campaign statements issued during the last few weeks before the election where they pay homage to FDR, Truman and JFK. As a result, these dopey Dem voters (like my friends and their parents) continue voting for these candidates thinking they are voting for FDR/JFK-like candidates.

We need to educate these people and keep them as well informed as we Freepers are about the real day to day legislative agenda of the Rat Party. We need to highlight how they continue to vote against the best interest of these conservative, patriotic Democrats (like my friends) and how they continue to display hypocrisy by constantly changing their stance on major issues.

How do we do this?

[Joe Hadenuf]

What's up Jim, his post was right in the ten ring. It wasn't whining. This AH basically comes out and call me a nazi for my position on illegal immigration, and lack of legal immigration reform, and Gawain brings it to the table, and Gawain is told he's whining? LOL!

What's up with that?

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

You're cool with me.

I knew it was a good move to donate in your name during the Freepathon. : )

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

My silence can be bought! :-)

LOL - I certainly HOPE so!!

[Jim Robinson]

You've all been whining all night (in fact for months). Don't you ever get tired of it?

[bvw]

The Proverb says : One system of measures!

The posted rules of FR are POSTED RULES. Yet one member is banned, another coddled -- both broke the same rule. That kind of law is a perversion. I don't care who the owner is ... if you are a fair and square man who makes a rule in a place you open to the public, you stick to those rules.

Depending on your outlook FR has become either a tyranny or an anarchy. By that I mean if you play by rules it is an anarchy. And if you don't care one way or the other about rules and are content with whims of decisions that change from one day to the next: then it's a tyranny, you enjoy a tyrant rather than rule of law.

[Sir Gawain]

I didn't know that. Cool!

[Mo1]

Yea .. but I made the cut though .. *L*

Carry on ;0)

[justshe]

Why aren't you addressing your dissatisfaction to the one who made the decision, bvw?

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

I'll take a wild guess and say it's 'cause you don't have admin powers. : )

[Jim Robinson]

Look, if you don't like the way I manage the website.... well, you know the drill.

[justshe]

ROFL! Good guess!

Amazing all the gritching behind people's back some will do....rather than having the courage of their convictions and the spine to address their complaints to the ONLY person they are upset with, no?

[Joe Hadenuf]

You've all been whining all night (in fact for months). Don't you ever get tired of it?

Lets see, this guy walks in here 10 miniutes ago, calls me a bigot, nazi and this stormfront thing, and yet you now say I am whining?

I can post hundreds of times on your forum and no one ever has called me these names except for these two people, Louie Gonzalez and PRND21. Actually there is one more that has not chimed in on this thread with his deck of race cards.

Why do you think it's the same two or three, out of thousands of members, that continually pull this race card on not just me but others too? The pattern of these people is glaring Jim. All because I am outspoken when it comes to the immigration crisis. You being in Cal should understand full well the types that routinely use the race card as a political weapon to silence those that speak out.

As far as whining goes, ask yourself Jim, who are the ones that constantly ring your bell everytime they read something that offends their hypersensitivity. It's not me.

[PRND21]

The pattern of these people is glaring Jim.

As is yours.

[Jim Robinson]

B/S. You guys have been feuding for months. Years. There is no beginning and there is no end and there are no clean hands. One of these days, and it probably won't be long, I'm going to kick the whole bunch of you off the forum so I can enjoy some peace and quiet.

[Joe Hadenuf]

OK PRND21, lets see, once and for all, all of this racist, bigot, stormfront, nazi things you say I post. Lets see all of the quotes PRND21........

I am sure JR would be interested too.

[Jim Robinson]

No thanks. Not interested.

[Joe Hadenuf]

How is one suppose respond to such nasty, false, wild accusations? Should I just not post here? Am I suppose to ignore it.

What if they were directed at you Jim?

[PRND21]

I don't keep a database of people that disagree with me like you claim to.
Post a link to your "According to Joe" vanity and read some yourself.

[Jim Robinson]

Give it up Joe. I've seen you dish out enough of it to others. So you caught a little back. I doubt it's gonna kill you.

[Joe Hadenuf]

No thanks. Not interested.

OK Jim. That pretty much sums it up.

Take care......