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Shooting at NYC City Hall. 2 dead, including Concilman James Davis

Posted on 07/23/2003 11:19:01 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs

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To: Shermy
Othniel and Boaz are both Biblical names. He could be Jewish, Christian, or Muslim I suppose.
701 posted on 07/23/2003 2:16:12 PM PDT by DittoJed2
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To: dead
It could be a different guy named Othniel Bogz Askew.

Blue suit... anyone know if Hillary has changed pantsuit color recently? And turned unusually butch?

702 posted on 07/23/2003 2:17:19 PM PDT by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: Humidston
I've been watching NYC News via the net... Davis' brother was ranting that this was the fault of "white racists and black racists."

LOL, no way! Really?

703 posted on 07/23/2003 2:17:19 PM PDT by katnip
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To: hellinahandcart
Othniel Bogz Askew.

Am I the only one who read the first name as Orenthal when I saw it the first time?

704 posted on 07/23/2003 2:17:19 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Paranoia is when you realize that tin foil hats just focus the mind control beams.)
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To: hellinahandcart
It's actually Boaz instead of Bogz according to several websites.
705 posted on 07/23/2003 2:17:19 PM PDT by DittoJed2
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To: hoosierpearl
If Davis killed the Askew, after being shot, then wouldn't this only add to the case for concealed weapons? Unfortunately, Davis died, but it appears he could have saved other lives in killing the assailant.
706 posted on 07/23/2003 2:17:27 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: firebrand
Now they're saying on NY1 that a member of Gifford Miller's security detail is the one who shot and killed Askew.

707 posted on 07/23/2003 2:17:37 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: hoosierpearl
They neglected to tell the Mayor, the Police Commissioner, and a Councilman that came out and said the shooter escaped with his description, that the shooter had been shot and did not escape!

Can you imagine the cops neglected to tell the Police Commissioner?
708 posted on 07/23/2003 2:17:55 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Bush Cheney '04 - VICTORY IN '04 -- $4 for '04 - www.GeorgeWBush.com/donate/)
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To: hoosierpearl
Duh. The shooter was the councilman's guest.
Sorry for the goof. Spellcheck wouldn't catch that one.
709 posted on 07/23/2003 2:17:58 PM PDT by hoosierpearl (One nation under God.)
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To: Dog
It appears he was also a prophetic street poet.

When you fight against me...BROTHER
You're allowing them to win
When you fight against me...BROTHER
You commit the ultimate sin

You don't only hurt me...BROTHER
You hurt yourself as well
You don't only hurt me...BROTHER
Your sons will live in hell

I am not the enemy...BROTHER
Take a look and see
I am not the enemy...BROTHER
You look just like me

Let us work together...BROTHER
For can you not see
That if you fight against me...BROTHER
That's the end of you and me.

Love Yourself - Stop the Violence!

by Karen L. Lawrence and James E. Davis

710 posted on 07/23/2003 2:18:29 PM PDT by Sender
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To: Diddle E. Squat
As I said, different people may hear it differently, depending upon their frame of reference.

Knowing the rally is tomorrow (I have a previous committment that precludes me from making the 6 hour drive to attend) I found his comments to be rather unprofessional in that he made them based upon incorrect information and then failed to correct his error.

I will agree with you that I may have gone a bit overboard in my comments, however I did see where several anti-smokers I am familiar with on another board took his words and ran with them blaming the ignorant smokers for the shooting in NYC. And at least one of them was very disappointed to find out the information was incorrect - right before the thread was pulled.

I hope we are both now seeing eye-to-eye!!!
711 posted on 07/23/2003 2:18:43 PM PDT by Gabz (anti-smokers - personification of everything wrong in this country.)
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To: TomGuy
Thanks for the link! Makes perfect sense to me!

Looks like Councilman Davis had a concealed carry and a gun on his that he used to shoot the shooter according to Fox!
712 posted on 07/23/2003 2:19:05 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Bush Cheney '04 - VICTORY IN '04 -- $4 for '04 - www.GeorgeWBush.com/donate/)
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To: KarlInOhio
To confuse everyone, the local Fox News (according to my kid) has corrected the shooters name to Nathaniel Askew.
713 posted on 07/23/2003 2:19:36 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: DittoJed2; dead
It's actually Boaz instead of Bogz according to several websites.

Well, blame dead, his joke set the typo in stone for me.

714 posted on 07/23/2003 2:19:48 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: PhiKapMom
Clarence Askew was the shooter. Davis was a friend of Kobe Bryant apparently. Askew's name changed from Othniel Bogz Askew to Clarence Askew. I don't know why.
715 posted on 07/23/2003 2:20:16 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Click On my Name - Visit My Profile)
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To: katnip
Really! Someone earlier provided a link. If I knew how, I'd link it again, but there's no http addy on top of it and I'm afraid I'm not aware of how to do it without one.
716 posted on 07/23/2003 2:20:17 PM PDT by Humidston (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law)
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To: hoosierpearl
Can you believe I heard one NYC cop just state that was a good thing that councilman Davis had a gun at the Council meeting because his action in using the gun to shoot back at his (guest for the day) probably saved many lives of those around them in the balcony of the Council chambers.
hmmn, I wonder if that it is not a good argument for the rest of us mortals to have guns to protect ourselves from thugs.
717 posted on 07/23/2003 2:20:19 PM PDT by brydic1
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To: Labyrinthos
Is there a reason you feel that people in urban centers shouldn't be allowed guns?
718 posted on 07/23/2003 2:20:24 PM PDT by Conservative til I die (They say anti-Catholicism is the thinking man's anti-Semitism; that's an insult to thinking men)
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To: Catspaw
LOL!
719 posted on 07/23/2003 2:20:37 PM PDT by Dog
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To: TomGuy
Here comes the Mayor!
720 posted on 07/23/2003 2:20:38 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Bush Cheney '04 - VICTORY IN '04 -- $4 for '04 - www.GeorgeWBush.com/donate/)
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