Posted on 07/21/2003 8:17:05 PM PDT by Recourse
Fully armed Nazi bomber planes 'buried below East Berlin airport'
AN AIRPORT used by hundreds of thousands of tourists and business travellers each year could be sitting on top of thousands of live bombs.
Papers among thousands of files captured from the Stasi, the secret police of East Germany, claim tons of live Second World War munitions were buried in concrete bunkers beneath the runways of Schoenefeld airport in East Berlin. It is now the main destination for discount airlines, such as Ryanair, and numerous charter companies. Not only did the commissars intern munitions beneath the runways, but also entire Nazi fighter planes, all fuelled and fully bombed-up, according to the Stasi. The captured files of Interflug, the former East German government airline and the airport authority of the DDR, are now being examined to see if the Stasi claim is true. Experts believe it entirely feasible that, in the aftermath of the Second World War, with Berlin littered with millions of tons of unexploded ordnance, the Soviets could well have pressured local officials to move to clear the airfield as swiftly as possible. "They would have stuffed them anywhere they could - there was simply too much stuff to blow up all at once," said Karl-Heinz Eckhardt, a Berlin historian. "There was a warren of massive Nazi bunkers beneath the site of the present airport that would have suited their purposes." City authorities claim the airport is perfectly safe, but a thorough check on the claims in the Stasi files - 140 km of them that will still take a number of years to decipher - is being undertaken. Nearly two million passengers a year pass through Schoenefeld. According to the Stasi files, the ammunition was buried in bunkers between eight and nine metres deep. A spokesman for the airport said: "We became aware of the bunkers in 1993, four years after the fall of the [Berlin] Wall. A check was undertaken then and everything was determined to be safe." But he conceded that he was astounded at the claims that fully-fuelled and bombed-up aircraft lie beneath the runways and said new tests about the safety of the structures will be carried out. He added: "We had no idea that so much ordnance is supposedly under there." Frank Henkel, the Conservative interior ministry spokesman, said: "This must be investigated thoroughly and immediately and the runways strengthened if necessary." Berlin, with its sandy, dry soil, was perfect for the bunker-building of the Third Reich. Hundreds of thousands of them were constructed during the 12-year lifespan of the Nazi government: for every one metre of building above ground in modern-day Berlin, there are three metres below ground. Bunkers are being discovered every day and a group called Underground Berlin has turned several of them into tourist attractions.
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Yes, and posting the exaggerated Luftwaffe claims is not unlike the obstinate posts of those Southerners that refer to the Civil War as; "The War of Northern Aggression". In fact, the South struck first, and in fact, the Luftwaffe claims are preposterous. Your list would not pass the test of Occam's razor.
Yes and.... Next Veterans Day, attend services at a cemetery and find a marker that has an Army Air Corps insignia on it and a date of death between 1942 and 45. Take out your little list of Nazi victories and read that list of kills over the grave. If you can.
Most of us would agree that it's a list of Nazi exaggerated claims and is just part of the other comments and images about the Nazis on this thread. What is your problem?
... is not unlike the obstinate posts of those Southerners that refer to the Civil War as; "The War of Northern Aggression".
First you attack me and then you attack Southerners. Who are you going after next?
...the Luftwaffe claims are preposterous.
Yes, that's all you had to say instead of going into the attack mode.
Next Veterans Day,...
Just who do you think you are questioning other peoples patriotism?
No, most don't. Three other posters on this thread regarding the Nazi scores, claim that they are true and not exeragerated.
"First you attack me and then you attack Southerners. Who are you going after next?"
I used that as an example. You must be a Southerner.
"the Luftwaffe claims are preposterous.
Yes, that's all you had to say instead of going into the attack mode."
That's all I did say until the Jr. Luftwaffe jumped in and claimed that the scores were factuall true "confirmed" kills.
"Just who do you think you are questioning other peoples patriotism?"
Start breathing through a paper bag and calm youself. I'm not dissing your patriotism, but your lack of judgement in posting bogus data. As I recall, it wasn't even on topic.
I never even heard of it.
.I really don't care what you post. It's a free forum, subject only to JR. If it's junk like your kill list, that is not the least bit related to bombs under an East German airport, go ahead and make an ass out of yourself.
As for me, I know that these claims are Nazi's bragging about the young Americans they think they killed. And not for freedom, but for sport and for Der Fuhrer. It wasn't a game of "Flight Simulator" for the allied aircrews. The blood was real.
Well it MUST be true. Its good stuff about the Nazi's and they wouldn't print it, if it wasn't true!
Yes. It's the "D" model. Came out late. Wasn't used much. Had a liquid-cooled (V12?) engine instead of the 14-cylinder radial.
Then read it and report back to us.
Then why do you keep commenting on and making a fool of yourself?
It's a free forum, subject only to JR.
Remember that next time.
I don't have to. I already know the ending.
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The Germans never developed laminar flow wings. I am not sure about high octane fuel either. As I recall they also didn’t have drop tanks or as good bomb sights. They also lagged behind in radar development. They also didn’t understand strategic bombing or implement it.IMHO
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