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It Ain't Necessarily So. [Army Spec Ops letter from Iraq - a must read!]
E-mail from SOCOM ~ Courtesy of Freeper Lexington Green | 01 Jul 2003 | Mark w/ Army Spec Ops

Posted on 07/21/2003 6:08:08 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl

Edited on 07/22/2003 1:36:26 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Subject: Spec Opns Email from Iraq


COL ******** wrote:

Language may be a bit off color to some and it is long. However, it is well worth the read. I recommend it.

Original message, which came from e-mail thread out of SOCOM (spec. ops command) in Tampa, it is from Army spec. ops

Subject: FW: Message From Iraq

It Ain't Necessarily So.
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003, 11:09:09 GMT

Hey Guys, sorry it's been so long since I've sent anything but a quick note to you individually. However things have been pretty hectic since the end of hostilities and the start of the real war. Despite what the assholes in the press like to say over and over about the Ba'ath Party and Feydaheen.
2) It isn't any worse than expected;
3) Things are getting better each day, and
4) The morale of the troops is A-1, except for the normal bitching and griping.

My brief love affair with the press, especially the guys who had the cajones to be embedded with the troops during the fighting, is probably over, especially since we are back being criticized by them same RolandHeadly types that used to hang around the Palestine Hotel drinking Baghdad Bob's whiskey and parroting his ridiculous B.S.

I'm in Baghdad now, since XXXXXX relocated here from Qatar. It looks, sounds and smells about the same but at least you can get Maker's Mark at the local OC. We came up in mid-June to help set up operation Scorpion and Sidewinder. It represents a major (and long overdue) shift in tactics. Instead of being sitting ducks for the ragheads we now are going after
the worthless pieces of fecal matter. [OD NOTE: VERY understated!]

I'm no longer baby-sitting the pukes from CNN and the canned hams from the networks, but have a combat mission coordinating a bunch of A teams, seeking, finding and rooting out the mostly non-Iraqis that are well-armed, well-paid (in U.S. dollars) and always waiting to wail forthe press and then shoot some GI in the back in the midst of a crowd.

The only reason the GIs are pissed (not demoralized) is that they cannot touch, must less waste, those taunting bags of gas that scream in their faces and riot on cue when they spot a camera man from ABC, BBC, CBS, CNN or NBC. If they did, then they know the next nightly news will be about how chaotic things are and how much the Iraqi people hate us.

Some do. But the vast majority don't and more and more see that the GIs don't start anything, are by-and-large friendly, and very compassionate, especially to kids and old people. I saw a bunch of 19 year-olds fromthe 82nd Airborne not return fire coming from a mosque until they got a group of elderly civilians out of harm's way. So did the Iraqis.

A bunch of bad guys used a group of women and children as human shields.The GIs surrounded them and negotiated their surrender fifteen hours later and when they discovered a three year-old girl had been injured by the big tough guys throwing her down a flight of stairs, the GIs called in a MedVac helicopter to take her and her mother to the nearest field hospital. The Iraqis watched it all, and there hasn't been a problem inthat neighborhood since. How many such stories, and there are hundreds of them, never get reported in the fair and balanced press? You know, nada.

The civilians who have figured it out faster than anyone are the local teenagers.

They watch the GIs and try to talk to them and ask questions about America and Now wear wrap-around sunglasses, GAP T- shirts, Dockers (or even better Levis with the red tags) and Nikes (or Egyptian knock-offs, but with the "swoosh") and love to listen to AFN when the GIs play it on their radios.

They participate less and less in the demonstrations and help keep us informed when a wannabe bad-ass shows up in the neighborhood.

The younger kids are going back to school again, don't have to listen to some mullah rant about the Koran ten hours a day, and they get a hot meal.

They see the same GIs who man the corner checkpoint, helping clear the playground, install new swingsets and create soccer fields. I watched a bunch of kids playing baseball in one playground, under the supervision of a couple of GIs from Oklahoma. They weren't very good but were having fun, probably more than most Little Leaguers

The place is still a mess but most of it has been for years. But the Hospitals are open and are in the process of being brought into the 21stCentury. The MOs and visiting surgeons from home are teaching their docs new techniques and One American pharmaceutical company (you know, the kind that all the hippies like to scream about as greedy) donated enough medicine to stock 45 hospital pharmacies for a year.
> Safe water is more available.
> Electricity has been restored to pre-war levels but saboteurs keep cutting the lines. And The old Ba'ath big shots are upset because they can't get fuel for their private generators. One actually complained to General McKeirnan, who told him it was a rough world.
>
> The MPs are screening the 80,000 Iraqi police force and rehabbing the ones that weren't goons, shake-down artists or torturers like they did in East Berlin, Kosovo and Afghanistan.
> There are dual patrols of Iraqi cops and U.S./U.K./Polish MPs now in most of the larger cities.
> Basra has 3.5 million inhabitants.
> Mosul is a city of 2 million.
> Kirkuk has 1 million.
> How many and hundreds of other small towns have not had riots or shootings? The vast majority.
>
> The six U.K. cops were killed in a small Shiite town by the ex-cops they were re-habbing.
> According to a Royal Marine colonel I talked to, the town now has about twenty permanent vacancies in its police force.
> Mick, he's a big potato eater from Belfast named XXXXX and knows how to handle terrorists after twenty years fighting with the IRA. He sends his regards and says he'd love to have you here. Thinks you'd make a great police chief, even though the cops would be more frightened of you than the local hoods (then he laughed)
>
> I heard one doofus on MSNBC the other night talk about how "nearly 60" GIs have been killed since 01 May. The truth is that 21 GIs have been killed in combat, mostly from ambush, from 01 May through 30 June, Another 29 have been killed by accidents or other causes (two drowned while swimming in the Tigris).
>
> The [MSNBC turd] is the same jerk who reported on the air that "dozens of GIs" were badly burned when two RPGs hit a truck belonging to an Engineer Battalion that was parked by a construction site. The truck was hit and burned, three GIs received minor injuries (including the driver who burnt his hand) and three warriors of Allah were promptly sent to enjoy their 72 slave girls in Paradise. Hell of a way to get laid.
>
> A mosque in that shithole Fallujah blew up this morning while the local
> imam, a creep named Fahlil (who was one of the biggest local loudmouths that frequently appeared on CNN) was helping a Syrian Hamas member teach eight teenagers how to make belt bombs. Right away the local Feyhadeen propaganda group started wailing that the Americans hit it with a TOW missile (If they had there wouldn't have been any mosque left!) and the usual suspects took to the streets for CNN and BBC. One fool was dragging around a piece of tin with blood on it, claiming it was part of the missile.
>
> The cameras rolled and the idiot started repeating his story, then one of my guys asked him in Arabic where he had left the rag he usually wore around his face that made him look like a girl. He was a local leader of the Feyhadeen. We took the clown in custody and were asked rather indignantly by the twit from BBC if we were trying to shut up "the poor man who had seen his mosque and friends blown up." I told the airy-fairy who the raghead was and if he knew Arabic (which he obviously didn't) he'd know he was a Palestinian. I suggested we take him down to the local jail and we'd lock him and his cameraman in a cell with the "poor man" and they could interview him until we took him to headquarters. They declined the invitation.
> Guess what played on the Bullshit Broadcasting System that evening? Did the
> Americans blow up a mosque? See the poor man who is still in a state of shock over losing his mosque and relatives? Yep. Our friend the
> Palestinian.
>
> Our search and destroy missions are largely at night, free of reporters and
> generally terrifying to those brave warriors of Allah. The only thing that frightens them more is hearing the word "Gitmo". The word is out that a trip to Guantanimo Bay is not a Caribbean vacation and they usually start squealing like the little mice they are, when an interrogator mentions "Gitmo". No wonder the International Red Cross, the National Council of Churches and the French keep protesting about the place. They know it has proven to be very effective in keeping several hundred real fanatical psychopaths in check and very frankly would rather see them cut loose to go kill some more GIs or innocent Americans, just to make W. look bad.
>
> We have about 200 really bad guys in custody now and probably will park them in the desert behind a triple roll of razor wire, backed up by a couple of Bradleys pointed their way, if they decide to riot. Maybe a few will get to Gitmo but most are human garbage that wouldn't take on your five-year old grandson face-to-face. The more we go after them and not vice-versa I think we will see the sniper attacks go down. Yeah, they'll get lucky now and then, but it's showtime, fellows.
>
> Our first objective is to get the die-hards off the street (or make them too
> scared to come out in them) and destroy their caches of weapons (we have
> collected more than 227,000 A-47s and that is only the tip of the iceburg;
> Curly bought nearly a million of them from our pal Vladimir), then cut off
> their money supply, mostly from Syria and Lebanon. We must continue to get
> public services up and running, so the local families can get water, sewage
> and garbage service; electricity, public transportation; oil fields and
> refineries working and a dinar that won't halve in value every month.
>
> It's going to be a long haul (remember it took 10-15 years in Japan and West
> Germany) but if we don't stick with it, nobody else will, and we'll have
> some other looney running the place again.
>
> This place has greater potential than Saudi Arabia (bunch of goat-herders
> who struck black gold) or Iran (weird dudes who can't run a rug bazaar much
> less a major country).
>
> Armageddon, here we come. Remember, it's located on the outskirts of
> Jerusalem.
>
> Enough of that cheery speculation.
> The good news is that General Schoonmaker is going to appointed ChiefArmy
> and the old man is coming to Tampa to run the SpOps desk at CentComm. He's
> tops and will be getting his second star. To me it means that SpOps will be
> more predominant in future operations and after 18 years as a GB maybe I'll
> have a shot at a bird-level combat command. XXXXXXXXXX I told him after I spent four months changing the
> diapers of the media types, I wanted to go back to action. Hence, my
> current gig. As the movie quoted old General Patton, "God help me, I love
> it." I do. Nothing more satisfying than working with the BEST damn soldiers
> in the world, flushing real human poop down the drain and giving some folks
> a chance at trying freedom for a change. They may learn to like it and then
> my great-great-grandson won't have to worry about some maniac trying to
> destroy the planet.
>
> My tour is over at the end of August, and I plan to return to XXXX, brief
> the old man, then head to XXXX and see my two sweethearts. I'd like
> to visit my parents in XXXX and my brother in XXXXX, before taking on a
> trip across the country. Just like any other family. It will charge my
> batteries before I end up back in some other shit ... er, interesting and
> challenging location. I hope to see most of you and ask for some advice,
> not support. I know I've had that all along. Thanks.
>
> Now about that Maker's Mark.
> God Bless America
> Mark.
>
> "War doesn't determine who wins, war determines who is left"




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To: JustPiper
Thanks Piper! Great read!!
181 posted on 07/22/2003 11:37:33 PM PDT by BagCamAddict
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Thanks Tonk,

Copy, Paste, and indexed in research file.

I appreciate all our Patriots do and wish I could be of more service to them.

Matthew
182 posted on 07/23/2003 4:56:06 AM PDT by Fearless Flyers (Proud to be of The Brave and the Free, http://fearless-flyers.com)
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To: Fearless Flyers
bump
183 posted on 07/23/2003 7:01:49 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
this has been posted at polipundit.com AND andrewsullivan.com


http://www.polipundit.com/
Tuesday, July 22, 2003
Iraq - The Truth

Yesterday, there was an e-mail posted on Free Republic, purportedly from someone in Special Operations serving in Iraq. I was skeptical about the accuracy of the e-mail, but today there's some indirect confirmation of its authenticity and accuracy.

Here's an excerpt from the e-mail:
Our search and destroy missions are largely at night, free of reporters and generally terrifying to those brave warriors of Allah. The only thing that frightens them more is hearing the word "Gitmo". The word is out that a trip to Guantanimo Bay is not a Caribbean vacation and they usually start squealing like the little mice they are, when an interrogator mentions "Gitmo".
From the Washington Post tonight:
Threats to ship the recalcitrant captives to the U.S. detention facility at Guantanamo Bay on the eastern end of Cuba were especially helpful in encouraging them to talk, officials said.
I think that the e-mail is the real thing. Go read it to see what the lying socialist treasonous liberal media isn't telling you.


http://andrewsullivan.com
Tuesday, July 22, 2003

WHAT THE PRESS WON'T TELL YOU: I keep hearing - anecdotally and from forwarded emails, that things are going far better in Iraq than the anti-war media wants you to believe. Here's an extract from a letter from a soldier out there doing God's work in putting back together a ravaged country. It was posted on Free Republic, but it seems genuine to me. Here's a small extract:
The only reason the GIs are pissed (not demoralized) is that they cannot touch, must less waste, those taunting bags of gas that scream in their faces and riot on cue when they spot a camera man from ABC, BBC, CBS, CNN or NBC. If they did, then they know the next nightly news will be about how chaotic things are and how much the Iraqi people hate us.
Some do. But the vast majority don't and more and more see that the GIs don't start anything, are by-and-large friendly, and very compassionate, especially to kids and old people. I saw a bunch of 19 year-olds fromthe 82nd Airborne not return fire coming from a mosque until they got a group of elderly civilians out of harm's way. So did the Iraqis.
A bunch of bad guys used a group of women and children as human shields.The GIs surrounded them and negotiated their surrender fifteen hours later and when they discovered a three year-old girl had been injured by the big tough guys throwing her down a flight of stairs, the GIs called in a MedVac helicopter to take her and her mother to the nearest field hospital. The Iraqis watched it all, and there hasn't been a problem inthat neighborhood since. How many such stories, and there are hundreds of them, never get reported in the fair and balanced press? You know, nada.
The civilians who have figured it out faster than anyone are the local teenagers.
They watch the GIs and try to talk to them and ask questions about America and Now wear wrap-around sunglasses, GAP T- shirts, Dockers (or even better Levis with the red tags) and Nikes (or Egyptian knock-offs, but with the "swoosh") and love to listen to AFN when the GIs play it on their radios.
They participate less and less in the demonstrations and help keep us informed when a wannabe bad-ass shows up in the neighborhood.
The younger kids are going back to school again, don't have to listen to some mullah rant about the Koran ten hours a day, and they get a hot meal.
They see the same GIs who man the corner checkpoint, helping clear the playground, install new swingsets and create soccer fields. I watched a bunch of kids playing baseball in one playground, under the supervision of a couple of GIs from Oklahoma. They weren't very good but were having fun, probably more than most Little Leaguers
The place is still a mess but most of it has been for years. But the Hospitals are open and are in the process of being brought into the 21stCentury. The MOs and visiting surgeons from home are teaching their docs new techniques and One American pharmaceutical company (you know, the kind that all the hippies like to scream about as greedy) donated enough medicine to stock 45 hospital pharmacies for a year.
Read the whole thing. Why do very, very few of these stories appear in the press? I think we know the answer. My sympathies lie with these men and women doing a difficult job extremely well. We are making progress. Don't let the BBC or Dick "Chicken Little" Morris get you down.
- 12:58:22 PM


184 posted on 07/23/2003 7:04:09 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Good post cowgirl!

The more truth that comes about about the media behavior that goes on over there, the more the media looks like the fools they are.

I love it. Spoken from the heart of a true SF soldier. Great read.
185 posted on 07/23/2003 7:22:38 AM PDT by judicial meanz
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To: finnman69
Thank you for posting the links and excerpts, finnman69. Outstanding.

What the awesome Andrew Sullivan would surely say if he knew more about FR and Freepers:

It was posted on Free Republic, but it seems so it is genuine to me. (^;

We may have different viewpoints about issues (unlike the press/left), Freepers are the first to demand accountable and accuracy (again, unlike the mainstream (inter)national press/left).

Imho.

186 posted on 07/23/2003 7:49:59 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Stability operations are operations in unstable places." Dep.Ast SOD, Stability Ops Lt. J. Collins)
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To: judicial meanz
Spoken from the heart of a true SF soldier. Great read.

Cuts through the daily whine, doesn't it? Please pass it on, jm...and keep it up. Most of the world still gets the news from the people who are giving their pens to Hamas suicide bombers.

This good Soldier does a great job of verifying what CENTCOM.mil and DoD, blogs from Iraq, letter home have been reporting for months.

"I don't find myself in any quandry. I'm a soldier."  - Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, Commander, Combined Joint Task Force Seven (CJTF-7) , July 23, 2003 - CENTCOM briefing.

187 posted on 07/23/2003 7:59:04 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Stability operations are operations in unstable places." Dep.Ast SOD, Stability Ops Lt. J. Collins)
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To: Lexington Green; ReaganRevolution; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; armymarinemom; mystery-ak; ...
Please check out Andrew Sullivan's websight today. It's a thing of beauty - and truth. He's actually looking at the big picture in Iraq, and asking for letters from the troops:
 
Please share your accounts  re. Iraq ~
 
* or say thanks *
 
 andrew@andrewsullivan.com
 
An excerpt from Andrew's websight today:
 
THE OTHER SIDE: With that in mind, here's an appeal to anyone out there with firsthand experiences in Iraq today - in the military or elsehwere - to send me your own impressions of what's going on. I don't trust most of the journalists, I'm afraid. Here's part of one email I just received:
I left early this morning for Mosul then to a town in Northern Iraq called Duhok. It is a Kurdish city and a bigtime market place. The people there really love the Americans... more than anywhere else. It was a very cool experience. Kids wanting to touch you and thank you for getting rid of Saddam. I had one kid saying... "mister... Saddam very bad ... bush very good..." and repeating it over and over. It was a very long day and I am glad to be back at Qwest... Northern Iraq is soo pretty with the mountains and some water. The Kurdish people are very friendly and honest. One of the soldiers dropped money accidentally out of his pocket and didn't notice. A whole group of kids came up and pointed to it saying " Mister your money..." Most kids in shitty places like this would just steal the cash and run...

Oh, and you might want to let Mr. Sullivan know you're a Freeper.   See #186   (^;

188 posted on 07/23/2003 8:39:29 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Stability operations are operations in unstable places." Dep.Ast SOD, Stability Ops Lt. J. Collins)
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To: PhilDragoo
Check out #184 and #188.

It's a good day in America.

189 posted on 07/23/2003 9:16:22 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("I don't find myself in any quandry. I'm a soldier." Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez *CENTCOM* July 23)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Thanks for the "heads up".. and also enjoyed ALL the good stuff on your profile page.

Nice "finding" you again !!!
190 posted on 07/23/2003 9:38:09 AM PDT by DollyCali (Authenticity: To have Arrived !)
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To: DollyCali
Welcome to the war after the war, Dolly. Thanks for taking time out of your hectic days to stop by and cheer us up. (^:

Has the flood receded, yet?

191 posted on 07/23/2003 10:01:20 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("I don't find myself in any quandry. I'm a soldier." Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez *CENTCOM* July 23)
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To: All
The friendliest spot on the internet - and longest continuous running thread at Free Republic:
 
USO Canteen FReeper Style ~ Pancakes on Wednesday ~ 23 July 2003

 Open 24/7 for the troops, and all who support them, since Oct. 2001.
 
 

192 posted on 07/23/2003 11:28:31 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("I don't find myself in any quandry. I'm a soldier." Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez *CENTCOM* July 23)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Sent out the letter to my email list today...here is a response I received from friend in Boston. He is Lib (of course).. but was in Peace Corps for 8 years in Iran & married an Iranian woman. That was 30 years ago... He has been a freind since we were in 4th grade.. was our class valdictorian & later educated in the East for all degrees & is now one of the world transportation experts & does consulting worldwide. Pre war he kept referring to the "war monger in the White House". sure many of you will/did receive similar responses.

The letter from Iraq was not at all reassuring. Sure, the media see it different. They're still far from objective.

I'm not sure what your take on the letter was. I found very disturbing the simplistic thinking that the military demands and nurtures. Why aren't the Iraqis more submissive and appreciative. After all -- they're ragheads, liked by the hippies and the air-fairies warriors of Allah longing for a paradise of 72 slave girls human garbage whose neighbors are goatherders and weird dudes

Ah, but what wonderful opportunities to advance up the military ranks this all presents! In the end, our friend loves war. It helps him define his manhood. And what could be more important than that?

193 posted on 07/23/2003 5:27:49 PM PDT by DollyCali
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To: DollyCali
Dolly, I'm sorry you posted that. It's pure liberal BS of course - and typical. Perhaps you could remind your friend just what these Soldiers go through to protect HIS right to be stupid.

Oppressed people around the world aren't calling for the UN, the Peace Corps or the DNC - they are asking for the US MILITARY to help, knowing our guys DO - with little thanks or recognition from those who reap the benefits of freedom in America.

Dolly, your friend is a wanker. Sorry.

194 posted on 07/23/2003 5:59:38 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("I don't find myself in any quandry. I'm a soldier." Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez *CENTCOM* July 23)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
I had good response from sending the letter from the colonel.

Now our people got Qusay and Uday.

Freedom is God's gift to every man--our Declaration says we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are endowed with certain rights by their Creator, that among these are Life, Liberty & the pursuit of Happiness.

Our troops are doing God's work--and will then come home.

195 posted on 07/23/2003 8:08:02 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; All
I'm gonna send Mr. Sullivan the stories I've posted on ehre for you to read. I hope they give him a first hand view of what's been going on over here. Plus I'm a FReeper to boot. That should count for something. Wish me luck
196 posted on 07/24/2003 6:03:33 AM PDT by txradioguy (HOOAH! Not just a word, A way of life!)
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To: txradioguy; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Thank you! I am so glad you stopped by. Linked your radio link to my homepage, and Tonkin posts it at the Canteen - of course. You are in our thoughts and prayers - and I promise that your fellow Americans are hunting for the truth out of Iraq - and sharing it with others.

You might want to tell the troops to contact Andrew - or have their families do so. The 'career' soldiers who look to the UN and DNC are probably sending 'stories', too.

Did I tell you how proud we are of the job you and the troops are doing in Iraq? Lt. Gen. Sanchez told Dep. SOD Wolfowitz that you guys have, in a few short months, made improvements across Iraq that Gen. Sanchez says it took them a year to do in Kosovo...a fine bit of ammo to use on the wankers.

Good luck! Andrew Sullivan is serious about this, imho.

You take care of business - and each other. We'll handle the homefront.

197 posted on 07/24/2003 7:43:51 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("I don't find myself in any quandry. I'm a soldier." Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez *CENTCOM* July 23)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
bttt
198 posted on 07/25/2003 8:34:12 AM PDT by 4Godsoloved..Hegave
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; All
Bump this fine thread!

For those who wish to support our troops with other Freepers on a spiritual level, we invite you to participate in our Troop Prayer Threads. The most recent one can be found here:



http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/917197/posts
199 posted on 07/29/2003 3:04:37 PM PDT by TEXOKIE
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To: TEXOKIE
Thank you, TEXOKIE.


200 posted on 07/29/2003 6:50:01 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("I don't find myself in any quandry. I'm a soldier." ~ Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, Commander, July 23)
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