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It Ain't Necessarily So. [Army Spec Ops letter from Iraq - a must read!]
E-mail from SOCOM ~ Courtesy of Freeper Lexington Green | 01 Jul 2003 | Mark w/ Army Spec Ops

Posted on 07/21/2003 6:08:08 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl

Edited on 07/22/2003 1:36:26 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Subject: Spec Opns Email from Iraq


COL ******** wrote:

Language may be a bit off color to some and it is long. However, it is well worth the read. I recommend it.

Original message, which came from e-mail thread out of SOCOM (spec. ops command) in Tampa, it is from Army spec. ops

Subject: FW: Message From Iraq

It Ain't Necessarily So.
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003, 11:09:09 GMT

Hey Guys, sorry it's been so long since I've sent anything but a quick note to you individually. However things have been pretty hectic since the end of hostilities and the start of the real war. Despite what the assholes in the press like to say over and over about the Ba'ath Party and Feydaheen.
2) It isn't any worse than expected;
3) Things are getting better each day, and
4) The morale of the troops is A-1, except for the normal bitching and griping.

My brief love affair with the press, especially the guys who had the cajones to be embedded with the troops during the fighting, is probably over, especially since we are back being criticized by them same RolandHeadly types that used to hang around the Palestine Hotel drinking Baghdad Bob's whiskey and parroting his ridiculous B.S.

I'm in Baghdad now, since XXXXXX relocated here from Qatar. It looks, sounds and smells about the same but at least you can get Maker's Mark at the local OC. We came up in mid-June to help set up operation Scorpion and Sidewinder. It represents a major (and long overdue) shift in tactics. Instead of being sitting ducks for the ragheads we now are going after
the worthless pieces of fecal matter. [OD NOTE: VERY understated!]

I'm no longer baby-sitting the pukes from CNN and the canned hams from the networks, but have a combat mission coordinating a bunch of A teams, seeking, finding and rooting out the mostly non-Iraqis that are well-armed, well-paid (in U.S. dollars) and always waiting to wail forthe press and then shoot some GI in the back in the midst of a crowd.

The only reason the GIs are pissed (not demoralized) is that they cannot touch, must less waste, those taunting bags of gas that scream in their faces and riot on cue when they spot a camera man from ABC, BBC, CBS, CNN or NBC. If they did, then they know the next nightly news will be about how chaotic things are and how much the Iraqi people hate us.

Some do. But the vast majority don't and more and more see that the GIs don't start anything, are by-and-large friendly, and very compassionate, especially to kids and old people. I saw a bunch of 19 year-olds fromthe 82nd Airborne not return fire coming from a mosque until they got a group of elderly civilians out of harm's way. So did the Iraqis.

A bunch of bad guys used a group of women and children as human shields.The GIs surrounded them and negotiated their surrender fifteen hours later and when they discovered a three year-old girl had been injured by the big tough guys throwing her down a flight of stairs, the GIs called in a MedVac helicopter to take her and her mother to the nearest field hospital. The Iraqis watched it all, and there hasn't been a problem inthat neighborhood since. How many such stories, and there are hundreds of them, never get reported in the fair and balanced press? You know, nada.

The civilians who have figured it out faster than anyone are the local teenagers.

They watch the GIs and try to talk to them and ask questions about America and Now wear wrap-around sunglasses, GAP T- shirts, Dockers (or even better Levis with the red tags) and Nikes (or Egyptian knock-offs, but with the "swoosh") and love to listen to AFN when the GIs play it on their radios.

They participate less and less in the demonstrations and help keep us informed when a wannabe bad-ass shows up in the neighborhood.

The younger kids are going back to school again, don't have to listen to some mullah rant about the Koran ten hours a day, and they get a hot meal.

They see the same GIs who man the corner checkpoint, helping clear the playground, install new swingsets and create soccer fields. I watched a bunch of kids playing baseball in one playground, under the supervision of a couple of GIs from Oklahoma. They weren't very good but were having fun, probably more than most Little Leaguers

The place is still a mess but most of it has been for years. But the Hospitals are open and are in the process of being brought into the 21stCentury. The MOs and visiting surgeons from home are teaching their docs new techniques and One American pharmaceutical company (you know, the kind that all the hippies like to scream about as greedy) donated enough medicine to stock 45 hospital pharmacies for a year.
> Safe water is more available.
> Electricity has been restored to pre-war levels but saboteurs keep cutting the lines. And The old Ba'ath big shots are upset because they can't get fuel for their private generators. One actually complained to General McKeirnan, who told him it was a rough world.
>
> The MPs are screening the 80,000 Iraqi police force and rehabbing the ones that weren't goons, shake-down artists or torturers like they did in East Berlin, Kosovo and Afghanistan.
> There are dual patrols of Iraqi cops and U.S./U.K./Polish MPs now in most of the larger cities.
> Basra has 3.5 million inhabitants.
> Mosul is a city of 2 million.
> Kirkuk has 1 million.
> How many and hundreds of other small towns have not had riots or shootings? The vast majority.
>
> The six U.K. cops were killed in a small Shiite town by the ex-cops they were re-habbing.
> According to a Royal Marine colonel I talked to, the town now has about twenty permanent vacancies in its police force.
> Mick, he's a big potato eater from Belfast named XXXXX and knows how to handle terrorists after twenty years fighting with the IRA. He sends his regards and says he'd love to have you here. Thinks you'd make a great police chief, even though the cops would be more frightened of you than the local hoods (then he laughed)
>
> I heard one doofus on MSNBC the other night talk about how "nearly 60" GIs have been killed since 01 May. The truth is that 21 GIs have been killed in combat, mostly from ambush, from 01 May through 30 June, Another 29 have been killed by accidents or other causes (two drowned while swimming in the Tigris).
>
> The [MSNBC turd] is the same jerk who reported on the air that "dozens of GIs" were badly burned when two RPGs hit a truck belonging to an Engineer Battalion that was parked by a construction site. The truck was hit and burned, three GIs received minor injuries (including the driver who burnt his hand) and three warriors of Allah were promptly sent to enjoy their 72 slave girls in Paradise. Hell of a way to get laid.
>
> A mosque in that shithole Fallujah blew up this morning while the local
> imam, a creep named Fahlil (who was one of the biggest local loudmouths that frequently appeared on CNN) was helping a Syrian Hamas member teach eight teenagers how to make belt bombs. Right away the local Feyhadeen propaganda group started wailing that the Americans hit it with a TOW missile (If they had there wouldn't have been any mosque left!) and the usual suspects took to the streets for CNN and BBC. One fool was dragging around a piece of tin with blood on it, claiming it was part of the missile.
>
> The cameras rolled and the idiot started repeating his story, then one of my guys asked him in Arabic where he had left the rag he usually wore around his face that made him look like a girl. He was a local leader of the Feyhadeen. We took the clown in custody and were asked rather indignantly by the twit from BBC if we were trying to shut up "the poor man who had seen his mosque and friends blown up." I told the airy-fairy who the raghead was and if he knew Arabic (which he obviously didn't) he'd know he was a Palestinian. I suggested we take him down to the local jail and we'd lock him and his cameraman in a cell with the "poor man" and they could interview him until we took him to headquarters. They declined the invitation.
> Guess what played on the Bullshit Broadcasting System that evening? Did the
> Americans blow up a mosque? See the poor man who is still in a state of shock over losing his mosque and relatives? Yep. Our friend the
> Palestinian.
>
> Our search and destroy missions are largely at night, free of reporters and
> generally terrifying to those brave warriors of Allah. The only thing that frightens them more is hearing the word "Gitmo". The word is out that a trip to Guantanimo Bay is not a Caribbean vacation and they usually start squealing like the little mice they are, when an interrogator mentions "Gitmo". No wonder the International Red Cross, the National Council of Churches and the French keep protesting about the place. They know it has proven to be very effective in keeping several hundred real fanatical psychopaths in check and very frankly would rather see them cut loose to go kill some more GIs or innocent Americans, just to make W. look bad.
>
> We have about 200 really bad guys in custody now and probably will park them in the desert behind a triple roll of razor wire, backed up by a couple of Bradleys pointed their way, if they decide to riot. Maybe a few will get to Gitmo but most are human garbage that wouldn't take on your five-year old grandson face-to-face. The more we go after them and not vice-versa I think we will see the sniper attacks go down. Yeah, they'll get lucky now and then, but it's showtime, fellows.
>
> Our first objective is to get the die-hards off the street (or make them too
> scared to come out in them) and destroy their caches of weapons (we have
> collected more than 227,000 A-47s and that is only the tip of the iceburg;
> Curly bought nearly a million of them from our pal Vladimir), then cut off
> their money supply, mostly from Syria and Lebanon. We must continue to get
> public services up and running, so the local families can get water, sewage
> and garbage service; electricity, public transportation; oil fields and
> refineries working and a dinar that won't halve in value every month.
>
> It's going to be a long haul (remember it took 10-15 years in Japan and West
> Germany) but if we don't stick with it, nobody else will, and we'll have
> some other looney running the place again.
>
> This place has greater potential than Saudi Arabia (bunch of goat-herders
> who struck black gold) or Iran (weird dudes who can't run a rug bazaar much
> less a major country).
>
> Armageddon, here we come. Remember, it's located on the outskirts of
> Jerusalem.
>
> Enough of that cheery speculation.
> The good news is that General Schoonmaker is going to appointed ChiefArmy
> and the old man is coming to Tampa to run the SpOps desk at CentComm. He's
> tops and will be getting his second star. To me it means that SpOps will be
> more predominant in future operations and after 18 years as a GB maybe I'll
> have a shot at a bird-level combat command. XXXXXXXXXX I told him after I spent four months changing the
> diapers of the media types, I wanted to go back to action. Hence, my
> current gig. As the movie quoted old General Patton, "God help me, I love
> it." I do. Nothing more satisfying than working with the BEST damn soldiers
> in the world, flushing real human poop down the drain and giving some folks
> a chance at trying freedom for a change. They may learn to like it and then
> my great-great-grandson won't have to worry about some maniac trying to
> destroy the planet.
>
> My tour is over at the end of August, and I plan to return to XXXX, brief
> the old man, then head to XXXX and see my two sweethearts. I'd like
> to visit my parents in XXXX and my brother in XXXXX, before taking on a
> trip across the country. Just like any other family. It will charge my
> batteries before I end up back in some other shit ... er, interesting and
> challenging location. I hope to see most of you and ask for some advice,
> not support. I know I've had that all along. Thanks.
>
> Now about that Maker's Mark.
> God Bless America
> Mark.
>
> "War doesn't determine who wins, war determines who is left"




De Oppresso Liber - RLTW!



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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Thanks for the PING on this great news DAY!

You have often been in my thoughts, RCgirl... I'll be bakk here a bit more often soon.
161 posted on 07/22/2003 1:54:47 PM PDT by AFPhys (((PRAYING for: President Bush & advisors, troops & families, Americans)))
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
This letter may be the real deal, but I gotta say it has a certain odor of hoax, or at least of a convenient PR stunt constructed by centcom staff. I mane, it is just too perfect.

The same letter was posted on oldguns.com on July 20th, two days before being posted on FreeRepublic. That does not mean much, except to note that the text does not match what was posted here. The one posted on oldguns.net is shorter and has some text rewritten.

I also think it incredibly convenient that the writer mentions Japan and Germany as examples, amazingly just like some freerepublic posters have done. This thing looks like it was lifted directly from some FR posts.

And lastly, the writer mentions joint patrols with Iraqi police. Every report I have heard or read said that the Iraqi police are a surly, ill-disciplined force that will not stick their necks out for anybody. One radio report of a roadblock the other day had the voice of one ID3 member expressing subdued rage at the cowardly local police who would not even man a checkpoint for more than half and hour, leaving our guys out there to do it alone in punishing heat.

I don't know, anyone else feel uneasy with how perfectly this letter seems to have a counter-point for every hot Iraqi issue discussed on this forum? Mybe I'm just too cynical, so I'll slip on my absetos long-johns now.

162 posted on 07/22/2003 2:48:14 PM PDT by clamboat
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
why doesn't fox news have a "letter from the front" feature every day?
This would be a great letter to start
163 posted on 07/22/2003 3:09:26 PM PDT by Mr. K (VEY series about everything)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
A BTT and a banner day. When we get a surly NPR reporter muttering that the raid on Uday and Qesay was a "hollow victory" you know the SOBs are on the run. The Iraqis too.
164 posted on 07/22/2003 3:35:51 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: AFPhys
Howdy, pardner! I was glad to see your name on the 'Uday = DU in pig latin' thread (heh). Some people on the left mistakenly believe we're going to quit and surrender to Clinton and Kofi.

Four months, AFP...our troops rock! (^;

165 posted on 07/22/2003 3:57:12 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Stability operations are operations in unstable places." Dep.Ast SOD, Stability Ops Lt. J. Collins)
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To: clamboat
clamboat, I'm glad to know it was posted at another websight. Hope it travels around the world.
 
The letter was posted at Southern Command in Tampa.
 
As for editing, I almost cut out a few paragraphs in this letter, some is personal. Whether someone posts it whole, or a sentence at a time, the letter matches what the troops have been saying (to no avail) for months.
 
Freepmail Lexington Green for further details.

The Iraqis have been conducting joint patrols with our troops in various parts of Iraq for weeks. They die going after the bad guys, too.

You can check out today's security report:

NUMEROUS POTENTIAL SUBVERSIVE ATTACKS DETERRED
CENTCOM ^ | July 22, 2003

..or check out the other work the troops are doing along side the Iraqi people today in Iraq:

COALITION AND IRAQIS TEAM UP FOR HUMANITARIAN EFFORTS
CENTCOM ^ | July 22, 2003

...or the many, many previous CENTCOM security reports largely ignored by the press:

*COALITION AND IRAQI POLICE WORK TO MAKE IRAQ SECURE

166 posted on 07/22/2003 4:23:02 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Stability operations are operations in unstable places." Dep.Ast SOD, Stability Ops Lt. J. Collins)
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To: Mr. K
Great idea. Maybe when enough of us ask, they'll listen.

From ONE DAY IN IRAQ , posted July 7:

 

On June 10, one brave US Soldier was killed and another wounded - the result of hostile fire. On the same day, over 146,000 US troops  worked at undoing SADDAM's regime across Iraq. That's one day in Iraq.
 
* CENTCOM released over 45 progress reports: Coalition security and stabilization successes - in the last 30 days alone. These include reports on the massive caches of bad guy weapons, millions of bad guy $$$, and lots of bad guys taken out by Coalition troops (often with the help of the Iraqi people) - including detailed reports on the three major aggressive June campaigns to root out Saddam loyalists (resulting in return fire, but far more enemy destroyed) - and the massive, cooperative rebuilding and humanitarian efforts - daily progress throughout Iraq. 
 
CENTCOM reported it. The press ignored it.

167 posted on 07/22/2003 4:39:39 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Stability operations are operations in unstable places." Dep.Ast SOD, Stability Ops Lt. J. Collins)
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To: Billthedrill
When we get a surly NPR reporter muttering that the raid on Uday and Qesay was a "hollow victory"

Tsk. That's a big fib...one more fib in a pattern of fibbing over decades. Imagine the number of fibs and fibbers required to convince the world that "Nazi" and "Fascist" are "right-wing" terms, or that it wasn't the Republicans who were lynched with the slaves they helped free - by the Democratic ("left-wing") Ku Klux Klan.

Impeach the press.

168 posted on 07/22/2003 4:55:12 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Stability operations are operations in unstable places." Dep.Ast SOD, Stability Ops Lt. J. Collins)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Skeptics can read the letter on the Special Forces Association website.

http://www.sfahq.org/commobunker.htm
169 posted on 07/22/2003 5:15:49 PM PDT by Lexington Green
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To: Lexington Green
Lol! That's simple enough. (^:

Did you see that Andrew Sullivan linked your letter - this thread - to his websight? We're competing w/ Pfc Lynch's homecoming and the demise of the Hussein brothers today. The letter will be just as good tomorrow.

Thanks again, Lexington Green.

170 posted on 07/22/2003 5:41:19 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Stability operations are operations in unstable places." Dep.Ast SOD, Stability Ops Lt. J. Collins)
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To: DollyCali
If you have time for a quick lift, check this out. Cigar Man?


171 posted on 07/22/2003 5:57:00 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Stability operations are operations in unstable places." Dep.Ast SOD, Stability Ops Lt. J. Collins)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
RC-

I originally got this as email. Just found the website tonite. Would have been easier to post it if I'd known last nite. You've done a great job getting this out. Thanks.

LG
172 posted on 07/22/2003 5:57:06 PM PDT by Lexington Green
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To: Lexington Green
Excellent read. I think this is the first time I read excepts of an original FR post elsewhere (Andrew Sullivan) with a link here !
173 posted on 07/22/2003 6:16:18 PM PDT by The Raven
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Great post, thank you RC.

174 posted on 07/22/2003 7:32:01 PM PDT by Athelas
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To: Athelas
You are very welcome. Lexington Green shared it and generously allowed me to post the thread. Please pass it on.
175 posted on 07/22/2003 7:35:25 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Stability operations are operations in unstable places." Dep.Ast SOD, Stability Ops Lt. J. Collins)
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To: Lexington Green
I have never enjoyed posting a thread more, LG...or sharing a letter with others.

Not even this one:

Oh, oh... dware's doing it again:
 
It's Time Again (Mussel Man Challenge II)

(^;


176 posted on 07/22/2003 7:37:40 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Stability operations are operations in unstable places." Dep.Ast SOD, Stability Ops Lt. J. Collins)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
This comes from Time Magazine through NRO. I'm sure most know of this stuff but I think its important for people to know what kind of people the letter writer is protecting us from:


"A chef at Baghdad's exclusive Hunting Club recalls a wedding party that Uday crashed in the late 1990s. After Uday left the hall, the bride, a beautiful woman from a prominent family, went missing. "The bodyguards closed all the doors, didn't let anybody out," the chef remembers. "Women were yelling and crying, 'What happened to her?'" The groom knew. "He took a pistol and shot himself," says the chef, placing his forefinger under his chin.

Last October another bride, 18, was dragged, resisting, into a guardhouse on one of Uday's properties, according to a maid who worked there. The maid says she saw a guard rip off the woman's white wedding dress and lock her, crying, in a bathroom. After Uday arrived, the maid heard screaming. Later she was called to clean up. The body of the woman was carried out in a military blanket, she said. There were acid burns on her left shoulder and the left side of her face. The maid found bloodstains on Uday's mattress and clumps of black hair and peeled flesh in the bedroom. A guard told her, "Don't say anything about what you see, or you and your family will be finished."


I am personally very greatful for his defending our Country from the likes of these...god I don't even know what to call them. I can't think of anything that fits that I am comfortable posting.
177 posted on 07/22/2003 7:51:57 PM PDT by Athelas
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To: Athelas
Thank you, Athelas. You are so right.

The White House and Defense Dept. websights both have extensive records - updated regularly. The press should be telling the world:

Tales of Saddam's Brutality [lengthy, graphic]

Silent No Longer: Iraqi People Reveal the Past
American Forces Press Service ^ | June 26, 2003 | Linda D. Kozaryn


178 posted on 07/22/2003 8:20:27 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Stability operations are operations in unstable places." Dep.Ast SOD, Stability Ops Lt. J. Collins)
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To: swheats
I am getting personal stuff (letters came through)that supports this. Even had a telephone message. take it from me - you can't take some stupid media report as representing reality.
179 posted on 07/22/2003 8:52:55 PM PDT by GranpaVet
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
bttt
180 posted on 07/22/2003 10:22:09 PM PDT by lainde
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