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Smoking or Cheating?
e3mil.com ^ | 7/21/03 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 07/20/2003 11:27:11 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Decades of lecturing around America and of speaking with parents on my radio show have led me to an incredible conclusion: More American parents would be upset with their teenage children if they smoked a cigarette than if they cheated on a test.

How has this come about? This is, after all, an entirely new phenomenon. Almost no member of my generation (those who became teenagers in the 1960s), let alone a member of any previous generation, could ever have imagined that parents would be angrier with their teenage child for smoking than for cheating.

There has been a profound change in American values. In a nutshell, health has overtaken morality. Or, if you prefer, health has become our morality.

The war against tobacco is both a cause and a symptom of this moral confusion. It has saturated American society with the belief that smoking is wrong, even immoral, not simply unhealthy.

Anti-smoking zealots (the term is redundant) in the California Department of Health Services launched a statewide billboard campaign equating cigarettes with drugs. Parents call my show to tell me that when their children see someone smoking, they say, "Look, that person is using drugs!"

Judges in child custody disputes have imbibed the moral idiocy that smoking tells us something about a person's character. An increasing number of judges take smoking into consideration when choosing which parent is more fit to raise a child. Millions of Americans agree with these judges that smoking is a moral flaw. That is one reason the government airbrushes cigarettes out of pictures of President Franklin Delano Roosevelt and other famous Americans. If a young American were to see President Roosevelt smoking a cigarette or Sir Winston Churchill smoking a cigar, what might happen to that child's wholehearted acceptance of the smoking-is-bad (not merely unhealthy) brainwash?

I smoke a pipe and cigar, and I am amazed at the certitude and chutzpah in the 5-year-olds who have visited my home who confidently walked over to me to tell me I shouldn't smoke! Had they seen me drinking alcohol, as children regularly see adults do, it would never occur to them to say such a thing.

That we have a war against tobacco rather than alcohol well illustrates the moral confusion of our time. Eighty years ago, when American society warred against a vice, it was alcohol — because the society cared more about fighting evil than fighting potential dangers to health. Alcohol leads to more child and spousal abuse as well as to murder and rape than any other single factor. Was one child ever abused because a cigarette or pipe dulled an adult's conscience? Have any drivers ever killed whole families because they smoked before they drove?

But in this Age of Moral Confusion we have chosen tobacco, not alcohol, as the villain. Because health and living long are our greatest values.

When I was a boy, I attended baseball games where most spectators smoked, but none cursed. Today there is no smoking at ballparks, but obscene language is shouted out with impunity. We have traded in opposition to firsthand cursing for opposition to secondhand smoke.

So, ask your children if they think you would be more disappointed in their smoking or their cheating. If your child responds "smoking," you are morally failing your child. If you are pleased with that answer, the situation is even worse. If enough Americans prefer that their children cheat than smoke, we are a doomed society. Nor can the issue be avoided by claiming you don't want your child to either smoke or cheat. That just means you can't say that cheating is far worse than smoking. You are another American led to believe that healthy and decent are synonymous.

But if you do believe that, ponder these questions: Would you rather your business partner smoke or cheat? Your lawyer? Your friends? Would you feel better if your doctor cheated on medical exams or smoked?

The questions would have been considered absurd a generation ago. The war against tobacco is a symptom and cause of a shallower society. It has done far more harm to America than tobacco. Just ask your teenager.


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To: Hank Kerchief; Humidston
You may be almost as good as my wife, although I doubt it.

If your wife is any better than Humidston you had better kiss her feet and thank your lucky stars. Maybe one of these days I will have the same good fortune as you and Mr. Humidston.

61 posted on 07/21/2003 5:46:02 PM PDT by Flyer (Ask me about my Golden Retriever!)
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To: Humidston; justacreature
It's justacreature's way or the highway.
62 posted on 07/21/2003 5:59:56 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: nickcarraway
I'll bet they would prefer their kid said he/she was gay over them saying they smoke! Smokers have been demonized so much. The hamburger is next.
63 posted on 07/21/2003 6:03:01 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left have blood on their hands.)
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To: F16Fighter
--- Without conservatism, America would soon buckle under the weight of state-inflicted socialism - it may still do so without our conviction to fight

Hello, disconnect or what?

64 posted on 07/21/2003 6:45:37 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: nickcarraway
Cheating on a test is an attempt to acquire better grades, something that parents usually value & which are alleged to impact future success. Smoking is not undertaken for any such long-sighted goal. Therefore cheating is an immoral but rational gamble, while smoking is simply stupid.
65 posted on 07/21/2003 6:52:00 PM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: justacreature
Smoking is a terrible habit, and it says a lot about a person's character. Alcohol use, on the other hand, doesn't necessarily point to a moral failing.

My dad smoked when I was growing up. I did not like it at all. But Having a father who smoked is 100 times better than having a father who drinks (too much). Alcohol is way worse than tobacco. True, tobacco is more anoying to be around in a casual setting than alcohol, but come on. Alcohol can lead to real evil. Tobacco does not

66 posted on 07/21/2003 6:53:13 PM PDT by BRL
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To: Sloth
Cheating on a test is an attempt to acquire better grades, something that parents usually value & which are alleged to impact future success.

This is so breathtakingly stupid that it doesn't deserve a reply, just a spotlight.

68 posted on 07/21/2003 7:05:15 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Flyer
Ahhh shucks, Flyer!

*kicking dirt*
69 posted on 07/21/2003 8:42:22 PM PDT by Humidston (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law)
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To: Madame Dufarge
>>--- Without conservatism, America would soon buckle under the weight of state-inflicted socialism - it may still do so without our conviction to fight<<

"Hello, disconnect or what?"

Hey Sparky -- Why don't you create your own state -- a Fourth Reich in which to inflict your own hypocritical fascism?

There you may be free to shovel your horsesh*t censorship (or Marlboro ashes) to your heart's content. For now, stuff it back up your @ss.

LOL, nice homepage you've got there - drawing a blank?? Suggestion: A large single swatstika would do just fine, Fraulein Braun.

70 posted on 07/21/2003 9:07:32 PM PDT by F16Fighter (Ann Coulter for Attorney General... Joe Scarborough for VP...Tom Tancredo as Homeland Security Chief)
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To: F16Fighter
It took you 2 hours and 22 minutes to come up with "fascist" and "shove it up your @ss"?

Deep thinker you are, Foo Fighter.

71 posted on 07/22/2003 3:36:48 AM PDT by metesky ("Let us go among them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond, "The Searchers")
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To: F16Fighter
Sometimes breathing into a paper bag will bring relief - maybe you should try it.
72 posted on 07/22/2003 3:42:18 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: F16Fighter
What a Idiot. You should of remained silent, before confirming yourself. However, it's in your nature.
73 posted on 07/22/2003 4:25:52 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: F16Fighter
That's because I ran into him on some other threads and his tolerance is astounding. I stand by my view... but not in a narrowminded way, you understand. /semi-sarcasm

bigotry: \Big"ot*ry\, n.
1. The state of mind of a bigot; obstinate and unreasoning attachment of one's own belief and opinions, with narrow-minded intolerance of beliefs opposed to them.
[Cf. F. bigoterie.]

74 posted on 07/22/2003 5:21:04 AM PDT by RikaStrom
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To: metesky
"It took you 2 hours and 22 minutes to come up with 'fascist' and 'shove it up your @ss'?"

An amazing display of time-keeping! Quite the over-achiever you must be.

75 posted on 07/22/2003 8:28:06 AM PDT by F16Fighter (Ann Coulter for Attorney General... Joe Scarborough for VP...Tom Tancredo as Homeland Security Chief)
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To: Madame Dufarge
(yawn)
76 posted on 07/22/2003 8:28:49 AM PDT by F16Fighter (Ann Coulter for Attorney General... Joe Scarborough for VP...Tom Tancredo as Homeland Security Chief)
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To: RikaStrom
"I ran into him on some other threads and his tolerance is astounding. I stand by my view... but not in a narrowminded way, you understand. /semi-sarcasm"

Who's "tolerance is astounding"??

"With this newby, you are either of his same frame of mind or your are a heretic."

24 posted on 07/21/2003 9:12 AM EDT by RikaStrom

77 posted on 07/22/2003 8:47:20 AM PDT by F16Fighter (Ann Coulter for Attorney General... Joe Scarborough for VP...Tom Tancredo as Homeland Security Chief)
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To: justacreature
Smoking is a terrible habit, and it says a lot about a person's character. Alcohol use, on the other hand, doesn't necessarily point to a moral failing.

You probably got that backwards. Alcohol impairs physical and mental capabilities as so many tests have shown.

78 posted on 07/22/2003 8:52:55 AM PDT by Consort
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To: Leisler
My issue here on this thread is in the context of both a censorship and elitism -- not a smoking issue, Einstein, but thanks for illustrating your complete and utter lack of comprehension.
79 posted on 07/22/2003 8:57:14 AM PDT by F16Fighter (Ann Coulter for Attorney General... Joe Scarborough for VP...Tom Tancredo as Homeland Security Chief)
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To: F16Fighter
"My issue here on this thread is in the context of both a censorship and elitism -- not a smoking issue"

A. The thread isn't about "your issues, censorship and elitism". It's about smoking. D'oh!

B. Anyways, I commented on you calling the kettle black, difficult as it is for you to comprehend.

"... Einstein.."

Thanks for the complement, as great as Einstein was, I prefer Richard Feynman. Not that you'd know who he was. Anyways, I'm not that bright, it just seems that way to you. Let's call it intellectual relativism.

"... but thanks for illustrating your complete and utter lack of comprehension."

I, and I suspect a lot of people, don't understand you. No doubt the fault lies with us and the stars.

80 posted on 07/22/2003 11:01:06 AM PDT by Leisler
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