DEVELOPING: SECRET SERVICE CONCERN AFTER LOS ANGELES TIMES COMIC DEPICTS 'BUSH ASSASSINATION'

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[ConservativeMan55]

DEVELOPING: SECRET SERVICE CONCERN AFTER LOS ANGELES TIMES COMIC DEPICTS 'BUSH ASSASSINATION'

[BagCamAddict]

The cartoon turns the accusations and who is the sympathetic figure 180 degrees back onto the real culprits and real victims of bullying and unjust attacks, and puts the media/left alliance in the position of arbitrary and out-of-control oppressor.

Do I understand you correctly, that you are saying that the figure in the cartoon labelled "Politics" is the arbitrary and out-of-control oppressor because that figure is the executioner from the original photo? And that the real victim of the bullying and unjust attacks was the person who was executed in the original photo, and who is drawn as W in this cartoon?

[RepublicanArmy]

Anyone else thinks that cartoon could be construed as a possible call for someone to do what is depicted?

[rwfromkansas]

That said, while he is a conservative and therefore this cartoon is NOT ANTI-BUSH, BUT ACTUALLY PRO-BUSH, I can understand the confusion. I wouldn't have caught it until people posted his other cartoons and quite frankly, his cartoons are not the easiest to understand.

[hellinahandcart]

I'm betting the commies got it (and don't like it), but I can't handle going over to Dirty Underpants tonight to test my theory.

[dr_lew]

Yes, he did kill him. The picture that is so famous was taken a second before the bulet slammed into the head of the Viet Cong soldier. As I recall, the picture was not a compliment to the marksmanship, or zeal, of the shooter.

My recollection is that when the photo was first published it was described as the actual moment of death. You can see that the head and face of the prisoner show signs of extreme reaction. The upward tilt of the gun is presumably due to recoil.

In the cartoon reproduction the gun is more level, and Bush is not wincing, but the allusion is macabre and quite alarming, and the motivation for making it is quite incomprehensible to me.

[Common Tator]

RE: the Shooting Bush Cartoon.

Perhaps we should do an internet morph of the LA times cartoon. Our version starts with LA times cartoon of the guy shooting Bush. That image slowly morphs into a Tim McVeigh type character blowing up the LA Times building. At the end the LA times building looks like the Oklahoma site aftermath. We coud see how the LA Times likes it when they are the object of the identical misuse of free speech.

[rwfromkansas]

I agree that he shouldn't have done the cartoon despite his intentions. But the vivitrol directed toward him on here is too far and unreasonable.

[Quick1]

I'm betting they didn't like the cartoon, but they're enjoying some of the reactions coming out of here.

[new cruelty]

Anyone else thinks that cartoon could be construed as a possible call for someone to do what is depicted?

Ramirez may not have intended it to be, but sure, someone could construe this as a call for someone to take action against the President.

[dogbyte12]

A couple more cartoons of his to drive the point home.

[jack gillis]

They have a very short thread on it (10 posts) and only one guy is chortling.

[Helms]

Awesome earlier remark on: resentment

[rwfromkansas]

I am not a libertarian (would rather choke on my own vomit than be libertarian). But, I agree with you......Jefferson was right. There is nothing more scary than a government without a press.

[jack gillis]

THAT would have been an excellent bet, if you could past-post somebody.

LAUGH.

[Charles H. (The_r0nin)]

Glad to see so many new posters on this thread, I think.

Considering that most of them have the incisive and cutting intellect of a square of jello covered in whipped cream surrounded by Nerf®, I'm not so sure...

[dogbyte12]

It is ironic no? A conservative cartoonist makes a provocative cartoon arguing that leftists are trying to character assasinate the president, and a bunch of yahoos are trying to get the only conservative cartoonist for one of the 4 big major papers fired.

[ShandaLear]

WOW! That is an EXCELLENT point and I think that's exactly what the cartoon is about.

[Steel Wolf]

The way I see it, there are three interpretations of the photo.

1 - The artist thinks that W should be shot.

2 - The artist is comparing W to a helpless innocent who is about to be brutally and unfairly murdered.

3 - The artist is comparing W to a murdering Viet Cong combatant about to be executed.

My assumption is that the artist's intent was to portray 2. This flies in the face of the truth of the historical situation being referenced, the truth being the man killed was in fact a Viet Cong combatant captured while fighting unlawfully (out of uniform).

It appears that he's relying on a commonly held, ignorant view of the situation. The real picture he is drawing is that Bush is equivalent to a VC thug, and about to be executed for his crimes.

[dogbyte12]

I think some people here would like to ban Schindler's List because it depicts the Germans successfully persecuting jews, so obviously it was a pro nazi movie.

[Monty22]

"The footage is of police Gen. Nguyen Ngoc Loan executing Van Lem (AKA Bay Lop Bay) on a Saigon street during the Tet Offensive of 1968. The film was shot by Vo Suu, an NBC cameraman. A still photo of the same event was shot by AP photographer Eddie Adams, and won him a Pulitzer Prize."

The comic guy's intent MAY have been pro-bush, but he used a BAD analogy here.

In the real picture it's the execution of a war criminal.