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Accident That Killed 10 in California Might Not Result In Any Charges
InfoBeat ^ | Friday, July 18 | Gannett Press

Posted on 07/18/2003 2:33:01 PM PDT by Calpernia

When George Russell Weller sped through a packed farmers market Wednesday in Santa Monica, Calif., the 86-year-old driver apparently stomped on the gas pedal when he meant to hit the brake. His confusion lasted for nearly three city blocks, cost 10 people their lives and injured dozens more. Even so, legal experts say, it might not constitute a crime.

Tests showed no signs that Weller was under the influence of drugs or alcohol. His statements to police -- that he tried to stop the car, not floor it -- suggest his actions were unintentional. Might then his age be to blame?

The accident has sparked just such a question and renewed the debate over whether states should take more steps to determine when to stop the elderly from getting behind the wheel. The issue will loom larger as the baby-boom generation grows older.

Federal officials caution against concluding that older drivers' skills are suspect. ''Just because you reach an age threshold doesn't mean your driving skills have diminished,'' says Rae Tyson, a spokesman for the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. ''Teenagers are responsible for far more fatal accidents.''

NHTSA has suggested that states allow doctors, family members and friends to flag elderly drivers to the motor vehicles department, which could then test the seniors' vision and driving skills. The agency has not recommended mandatory testing for drivers who reach a certain age.

Weller had no accidents or violations on his record and had passed vision and written tests at a California Department of Motor Vehicles office Nov. 28, 2000, records show.

''We always told the Wellers they were role models for how the rest of us should be when we're in our 80s,'' says longtime friend C. Richard Hulquist, an ophthalmologist and member of the church the Wellers attend. ''They are active, kind, involved in the community -- just very intelligent and very kind people, both of them. It's been a terrible shock.''

In an effort to ensure that the government is careful about whom it allows to drive, the AAA auto club says states should stop allowing drivers to renew their licenses by mail and should require vision tests for all drivers. ''There are 28-year-olds who can't see well enough to drive,'' AAA spokesman Mantill Williams says. ''We shouldn't be taking the licenses away from people because they turn a certain age. We should just be doing more testing -- for everyone.''

Focusing simply on elderly drivers might also prove politically perilous. As the elderly become a larger, more powerful voting bloc, age-based licensing will likely be ''politically impossible,'' says Barbara Harsha, executive director of the Governors Highway Safety Association, a group of state highway safety organizations. Instead, agencies will have to focus on making cars and roads safer for elderly motorists. ''Street signs have to be enlarged and made clearer, and cars will have to be better designed to accommodate them,'' she says.

Regardless of the steps states might take, legal experts question whether any action will be taken against Weller.

''If you are a prosecutor, what makes this case difficult is that you have a tiny bit of fault, but a huge loss of life,'' says Franklin Zimring, a professor of law and director of the criminal justice research program at Boalt Hall School of Law at the University of California-Berkeley. ''You probably have an enormously contrite driver.''

If any charge applied, Zimring says, it would probably be vehicular homicide. Less often, a driver might face an involuntary manslaughter charge. In both cases, he says, prosecutors must prove what legal experts call ''negligence plus.'' That means they must show that Weller had a conscious intent to do something dangerous. But only if the driver was impaired by drugs or alcohol are prosecutors likely to file such charges, Zimring says. He says prosecutors would have to prove that Weller knew his capacity to drive was impaired.

Civil lawsuits are almost certain to be filed against Weller's insurance company. ''But nobody carries enough insurance to cover this kind of loss,'' Zimring says.

Another lawyer suggests that police need to answer more questions before determining how to proceed.

''There has to be a lot more investigation,'' says C. Robert Brooks, a Beverly Hills lawyer who represents older people who have lost their licenses in hearings before the Department of Motor Vehicles. ''I would wonder how (Weller) was confused for so long over the difference between the gas pedal and the brake.''

Brooks says he doesn't think the case meets the standards for vehicular homicide, which he says is rarely charged when deaths are not the result of driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol. More often than not, ''people die in traffic accidents, and the drivers are not charged with a crime.''


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KEYWORDS: ca; caraccident; farmersmarket; georgeweller; santamonica
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This is just sad all the way around
1 posted on 07/18/2003 2:33:02 PM PDT by Calpernia
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2 posted on 07/18/2003 2:33:44 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: Calpernia
Civil lawsuits are almost certain to be filed against Weller's insurance company. ''But nobody carries enough insurance to cover this kind of loss,'' Zimring says.

Here's something else to think about. I don't know about CA, but IL requires all elderly drivers to take an annual driving test.

On the other hand, some states (I think GA is one) allow their elderly drivers to renew their driver's licenses by mail, for up to 10 years at a time. Not even so much as a vision test during all that time.

What good is that "licensing" process?

3 posted on 07/18/2003 2:38:58 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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To: Calpernia
On the other hand, this story came out about 3 hours ago:

CHP: Driver May Have Hit Car Before Farmers' Market Tragedy

CHP: Driver May Have Hit Car Before Farmers' Market Tragedy Both Vehicles Being Examined

UPDATED: 11:59 a.m. PDT July 18, 2003

LOS ANGELES -- Police are investigating the possibility that the driver who plowed through Santa Monica's farmers market was speeding from the scene of a collision with a Mercedes before crashing through the market, killing 10 people and injuring dozens of others.

4 posted on 07/18/2003 2:39:45 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Paranoia is when you realize that tin foil hats just focus the mind control beams.)
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To: Calpernia
This is just sad all the way around.

No other way to put it.

Prayers for all involved.

5 posted on 07/18/2003 2:40:35 PM PDT by TotusTuus
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To: KarlInOhio
Not only that, but this same man is on video tape in an accident 10 years ago....drove into a retaining wall!!!
6 posted on 07/18/2003 2:40:50 PM PDT by Feiny (I'm too sexy for my tagline....)
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To: Calpernia
It will interesting to see who the families find to sue. Being the Peoples Republic of Santa Monica, this could be the big one...ex-hippies, homeless advocates, and left-wing political radicals bankrupting the most leftist city (besides Berkley) in the country.

There was a letter to the editor this morning in the Times, from a woman who claimed it wasn't the driver's fault, but the fault "of access" because iron barriers weren't installed.

This is gonna be hilarious and would be worthy of a Broadway musical comedy if the circumstances weren't so unbelievably heartbreaking.

7 posted on 07/18/2003 2:43:54 PM PDT by Deb (Do these jeans make my tag look big?)
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To: Calpernia
This is just sad all the way around

Total, unqualified agreement.

Dan

8 posted on 07/18/2003 2:44:33 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: newgeezer
There is no reason not to put people through a driving simulator after a certain age to assess vision and reaction time.
9 posted on 07/18/2003 2:45:04 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Calpernia
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Personally, I think if just all WHITE VEHICLE drivers were tested more rigorously, EVERYTHING would be better.

They are the worst drivers in the world.

</lighter comment warning >

Dan
10 posted on 07/18/2003 2:45:53 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Calpernia
He says prosecutors would have to prove that Weller knew his capacity to drive was impaired.

He hit the throttle instead of the brake to slow down. That might have been the first hint that his capacity to drive was impaired... How tragic for everyone involved.

11 posted on 07/18/2003 2:47:16 PM PDT by RoughDobermann
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To: BibChr
Personally, I think if just all WHITE VEHICLE drivers were tested more rigorously, EVERYTHING would be better. They are the worst drivers in the world.

Nope, Mom's driving SUVs while talking on their cell phones are the worst...

12 posted on 07/18/2003 2:48:45 PM PDT by RoughDobermann
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To: Calpernia
It's sad indeed, but I don't think he shouldn't be charged. I read a couple of reports where he supposedly said, "they should have gotten out of my way," and where he told a policeman, "I should have gotten you, too."

I think he was crazy - possibly senile dementia, but in any case, he should be charged and then possibly get treatment, or at least be restrained so he can't do it again.

When I was a kid, there was an old man who used to sit on his porch and shoot his BB gun at kids as they passed by on their way to school. (His family thought it would be better to give him a BB gun than let him have a real weapon.) Fortunately, in those days (1950s) it was still possible to get somebody like that out of circulation, so he didn't get to do this for very long. Obviously, his family was in denial, or they wouldn't have said, "oh, Dad's out on the porch shooting at kids, let's give him a BB gun so he doesn't actually kill them."

Perhaps this is true of this old man's family, too. I don't live in CA, so I haven't seen much detailed reporting on this. But seeing pictures of him (and he looked about 15 years younger than his given age), I'd say it's not a physical problem, but that he did this intentionally because of some horrible age-related mental glitch.
13 posted on 07/18/2003 2:49:11 PM PDT by livius
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To: Calpernia
When my dad was 80 years old and had Parkensons, I wouldn't let my kids ride with him. It really hurt his feelings. He had never had a ticket but he was totally in denial about his ability to drive. I'm in an office now with a man 72 years old who has the same problems. He shouldn't be driving but does. I call that negligence and justification for a charge of involuntary manslaughter. I don't think it makes any sense to put him in jail but take his license for life and keep him on probabtion for a couple of years. If he is caught driving, toss him in jail.
14 posted on 07/18/2003 2:51:31 PM PDT by Mercat
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To: Calpernia
It's called failure to control, that's the ticket you get when a cop determines none of your actions were downright illegal but the accident was your fault.

And the punchline for any and all manslaughter charges is that there doesn't need to be intent, manslaughter is for negligent accidental death.

If he gets nailed with failure to control that lines him up for negligent accidental death. So there damn well better be charges.
15 posted on 07/18/2003 2:51:44 PM PDT by discostu (the train that won't stop going, no way to slow down)
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To: Calpernia
"Federal officials caution against concluding that older drivers' skills are suspect. ''Just because you reach an age threshold doesn't mean your driving skills have diminished,'' says Rae Tyson, a spokesman for the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. ''Teenagers are responsible for far more fatal accidents.'' "

love the contradictions here so becoming a teenager is not an "age threshold"?

anyway IMHO I believe there should be some sort of testing, this whole notion that you never lose you driving skills is a load of PC Barbra Striesand, "lets not offend the old people now, or they may not vote for us".

If you can't tell you are hitting the gas instead of the brakes for THREE whole blocks all while you are running over people and running through stands I would rate that a major diminishment of ones driving skills.

16 posted on 07/18/2003 2:54:36 PM PDT by battousai (This is not the tag line you are looking for... move along ... move along.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
There is no reason not to put people through a driving simulator after a certain age to assess vision and reaction time.

It sounds like you would volunteer to pay for it. You would spend countless dollars, harass millions of people, all in the hope of screening out one arbitrary idiot. None of which would prevent some other clown from running into a crowd of people for whatever other reason. I would rather take my chances before I create a new entitlement program.
17 posted on 07/18/2003 2:55:51 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: Calpernia
Traffic laws are for people who do 48 in a 45 when the city needs revenue, not for blind geezers who mow down marketplaces full of pedestrians.
18 posted on 07/18/2003 2:56:16 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: battousai
Teenagers are responsible for far more fatal accidents.

More specifically, teens who are driving other teens, which is why my teenage children are not allowed to drive other teens anywhere, nor are they allowed to ride with most teens.

19 posted on 07/18/2003 2:58:25 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: RoughDobermann
Nope, Mom's driving SUVs while talking on their cell phones are the worst...

I was almost sideswiped by one of those a couple of weeks ago. She was going from the on-ramp onto the highway. I swerved to miss her just in time. She just kept driving along, yacking away. I don't think she has any idea how close she came to dying.

Driving is dangerous. If people can't give it their focused attention they shouldn't be doing it, at any age.

20 posted on 07/18/2003 2:58:43 PM PDT by jalisco555 (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.)
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