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GIs want to go home, and they want to go now (muttering angry sargeants)
The Guardian via SMH ^ | July 19 2003 | Jonathan Steele in Falluja

Posted on 07/18/2003 8:56:24 AM PDT by dead

The doodles on the desk at the guardhouse tell it all. "Stuck here forever," an angry sergeant at the sand-blown US Army base outside the desert town of Falluja has scrawled with a felt-tip pen, alongside some scatological sketches.

As convoys of Humvees with bored and sweaty soldiers manning roof-mounted machine-guns trundle remorselessly past them - out for yet another circular patrol, in for another grim night of Fox TV and no alcohol - the sergeants who man the gates mutter over the glum news.

Ten months after they left their home base in Hinesville, Georgia, for what they thought was going to be a six-month peacetime jaunt in Kuwait, they are in Iraq and staying.

This is the headquarters of the 2nd brigade of the 3rd Infantry Division. Their combat teams have roughly 4500 soldiers and all were plunged into gloom this week with the announcement by their commander, Major-General Buford Blount, that their tour of duty was not yet over. Their promised return by the end of this month had been postponed again.

The reason? The growing attacks on US forces in Iraq and the manifest unwillingness of other professional armies, such as the Germans and French, to share the burden.

Staff Sergeant Anthony Joseph, the brigade's press liaison officer, said: "We are the only division which fought this entire war and is still in Iraq. We never knew there would be a war when we left home in September last year. We fought all the way up from Kuwait through southern Iraq. 'The quickest way home is through Baghdad', they told us. So we took the city, and here we are still."

No unit took more casualties than the 3rd Infantry during the war, 36 in all. Yet one of the division's early sources of bitterness was that the marines took credit for capturing the Iraqi capital.

"The 3rd Division's 1st Brigade took Baghdad airport and our 2nd Brigade was in Baghdad on April 5," Sergeant Joseph said. "We did a 'thunder run' with tanks that day, and on April 7 we went into Baghdad with 2000 troops and took it. But it was only when the marines came in on the east side of the river on April 9 and took up positions outside the Palestine hotel where all the media were that people thought Baghdad had fallen."

The brigade's second blow came when it was told to move to Falluja instead of go home. Falluja, Fifty kilometres west of Baghdad, has been a hotbed of tension since US troops killed 14 demonstrators in April.

The tension is always high, routine is oppressive, and isolation from home grows longer by the day. Phone calls are limited to 10 minutes, and there is a three-hour queue to make one. Letters take a month. Internet access is restricted to 10 minutes.

Officers claim the men's fighting morale is unaffected by the latest delay in going home.

"When we heard General Blount telling us on the radio we had to stay, we shook our heads and said, 'We knew, we knew it'," Captain John Ives said. "I left home just after my son's first birthday. If we go home in September, as they promise, he'll have had a year without me. But that date is like Jell-O; you know, it wobbles back and forth, no stability."

Vast vehicle parks are spread out across the sand, full of awesome rolling stock. Giant warehouses for ammunition have been built. The massive investment suggests the US plans to stay.

But the 3rd Infantry wants out now. Sergeant Joseph said: "Our motto is 'Send me'. We are adding the word 'home'. Hinesville is the armpit of the world. Right now, I'll take the armpit."

The Guardian


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 3rdid; crybabies; falluja; morale; rebuildingiraq; suckitup; ucmj
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We are the only division which fought this entire war and is still in Iraq... But it was only when the marines came in on the east side of the river on April 9 and took up positions outside the Palestine hotel where all the media were that people thought Baghdad had fallen... Our motto is 'Send me'. We are adding the word 'home'.”
- Staff Sergeant Anthony Joseph, the brigade's press liaison officer

Is it really the job of the brigade’s press liason officer to whine to the media about his mission?

1 posted on 07/18/2003 8:56:24 AM PDT by dead
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2 posted on 07/18/2003 8:58:11 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: dead
Leftist agi-prop... designed to demoralize the homefront... a kind of treason by the press
3 posted on 07/18/2003 9:02:01 AM PDT by Lexington Green
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To: dead
I posted this link about what the 1st Infantry Division did during WWII on another thread the other day and thought I would repost it here. To sum it up, the 1st Infantry Division fought for three years from Tunisia in 1942 to Czechoslovakia in 1945. Then after WWII ended, the 1st Infantry Division remained on garrison duties in Germany for ten years till 1955 when the 1st Infantry Division returned to Fort Riley Kansas. This doesn't mean that all of the troops in the 1st Infantry Division fought for the entire 3 years and then stayed in Germany for 10 years after the war ended, but it does give an example of what our troops did during and after WWII.
4 posted on 07/18/2003 9:04:01 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: dead
As a side note I would give that red-haired geek "soldier" with the Elton John glasses that said on international news that "If Donald Rumsfield was here, I would ask for his resignation" a Dishonorable, cut him loose right there, and let him find his own way home.
5 posted on 07/18/2003 9:04:01 AM PDT by greydog
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To: dead
We never knew there would be a war when we left home in September last year.

Then you're one of the dumbest SNCOs on the face of the earth.

6 posted on 07/18/2003 9:04:50 AM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: dead
Is it really the job of the brigade’s press liason officer to whine to the media about his mission?

No, but it would be REALLY without decorum for a Colonel to be complaining.

7 posted on 07/18/2003 9:06:22 AM PDT by jjm2111
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Then you're one of the dumbest SNCOs on the face of the earth.

I can't agree with you here.

This guy is too stupid to be dumb.

8 posted on 07/18/2003 9:09:01 AM PDT by greydog
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To: vbmoneyspender
Thanks for that link. Great stuff!
9 posted on 07/18/2003 9:10:35 AM PDT by dead
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To: dead
The doodles on the desk at the guardhouse tell it all. "Stuck here forever," an angry sergeant at the sand-blown US Army base outside the desert town of Falluja has scrawled with a felt-tip pen, alongside some scatological sketches.

My God. It's hard to think our soldiers would write such things. We must bring them all home now because of this.

All kidding aside, I don't think I ever went to any base where we didn't see things like this. It's just guys blowing off steam. I admit though that under the sucky tour index, this one would have to be near the top of the list. I was always told when the troops aren't complaining, that's the time for a leader to start worrying.

10 posted on 07/18/2003 9:12:24 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Read Hillary's hips. I never had sex with that woman.")
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
We never knew there would be a war when we left home in September last year.

Then you're one of the dumbest SNCOs on the face of the earth

__________

Could not agree more. If he could not see a war coming last Sept. he is not fit to be an NCO. I can say that because I am one. I guess this guy just needs to head back to Berkley.
11 posted on 07/18/2003 9:12:46 AM PDT by Rays_Dad
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To: dead
"The doodles on the desk at the guardhouse tell it all. "Stuck here forever,"

Shoot I do that during the third hour of an 8 hour shift. This is no topic for a news story. No one wants be over there. We know you don't want to be over there, I don't want you over there. Suck it up and press with the mission.
12 posted on 07/18/2003 9:14:31 AM PDT by Rays_Dad
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To: dead
POSTED ON STRANGE COSMOS TODAY: A "Dispatch" from the front (Iraq)


Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003, 11:09:09 GMT

Hey Guys, sorry it's been so long since


I've sent anything but a quick note to you individually.
However things have been pretty hectic since the end of hostilities and the start of the real war. Despite what the assholes in the press like to say over and over:

1) We did expect some armed resistance from the Ba'ath Party and Feydaheen;
2) It isn't any worse than expected;
3) Things are getting better each day, and
4) The morale of the troops is A-1, except for the normal bitching and griping.

My brief love affair with the press, especially the guys who had the cajones to be embedded with the troops during the fighting, is probably over, especially since we are back being criticized by the same Roland Headly types that used to hang around the Palestine Hotel drinking Baghdad Bob's whiskey and parroting his ridiculous B.S.

I'm in Baghdad now, since SpOpComm 5 relocated here from Qatar. It looks, sounds and smells about the same but at least you can get Maker's Mark at the local OC. We came up in mid-June to help set up operation Scorpion and Sidewinder. It represents a major (and long overdue) shift in tactics.

Instead of being sitting ducks for the ragheads we now are going after the worthless pieces of fecal matter. [OD NOTE: VERY understated!] I'm no longer baby-sitting the pukes from CNN and the canned hams from the networks, but have a combat mission coordinating a bunch of A teams, seeking, finding and rooting out the mostly non-Iraqis that are well-armed, well-paid (in U.S. dollars) and always waiting to wail for the press and then shoot some GI in the back in the midst of a crowd.

The only reason the GIs are pissed (not demoralized) is that they cannot touch, must less waste, those taunting bags of gas that scream in their faces and riot on cue when they spot a camera man from ABC, BBC, CBS, CNN or NBC. If they did, then they know the next nightly news will be about how chaotic things are and how much the Iraqi people hate us.

Some do. But the vast majority don't and more and more see that the GIs don't start anything, are by-and-large friendly, and very compassionate, especially to kids and old people. I saw a bunch of 19 year-olds from the
82nd Airborne not return fire coming from a mosque until they got a group of elderly civilians out of harms way. So did the Iraqis.

A bunch of bad guys used a group of women and children as human shields.
The GIs surrounded them and negotiated their surrender fifteen hours later and when they discovered a three year-old girl had been injured by the big tough guys throwing her down a flight of stairs, the GIs called in a MedVac helicopter to take her and her mother to the nearest field hospital. The Iraqis watched it all, and there hasn't been a problem in that neighborhood since. How many such stories, and there are hundreds of them, ever get reported in the fair and balanced press? You know, nada.

The civilians who have figured it out faster than anyone are the local teenagers. They watch the GIs and try to talk to them and ask questions about America and now wear wrap-around sunglasses, GAP T-shirts, Dockers (or even better Levis with the red tags) and Nikes (or Egyptian knock-offs, but with the "swoosh") and love to listen to AFN when the GIs play it on their radios.They participate less and less in the demonstrations and help keep us informed when a wannabe bad-ass shows up in the neighborhood.

The younger kids are going back to school again, don't have to listen to some mullah rant about the Koran ten hours a day, and they get a hot meal.

They see the same GIs who man the corner checkpoint, helping clear the playground, install new swingsets and create soccer fields. I watched a bunch of kids playing baseball in one playground, under the supervision of a couple of GIs from Oklahoma. They weren't very good but were having fun, probably more than most Little Leaguers The place is still a mess but most of it has been for years. But the  Hospitals are open and are in the process of being brought into the 21st Century. The  MOs and visiting surgeons from home are teaching their docs new techniques and  One American pharmaceutical company (you know, the kind that all the hippies like to scream about as greedy) donated enough medicine to stock 45 hospital pharmacies for a year.

Safe water is more available. Electricity has been restored to pre-war levels but saboteurs keep cutting the lines. And the old Ba'ath big shots are upset because they can't get fuel for their private generators. One actually complained to General McKeirnan, who told him it was a rough world.

The MPs are screening the 80,000 Iraqi police force and rehabbing the ones that weren't goons, shake-down artists or torturers like they did in East Berlin, Kosovo and Afghanistan. There are dual patrols of Iraqi cops and U.S./U.K./Polish MPs now in most of the larger cities.

Basra has 3.5 million inhabitants.

Mosul is a city of 2 million.

Kirkuk has 1 million.

How many and hundreds of other small towns have not had riots or shootings?

The vast majority.

The six U.K. cops were killed in a small Shiite town by the ex-cops they were re-habbing. According to a Royal Marine colonel I talked to, the town now has about twenty permanent vacancies in its police force.
Mick, he's a big potato eater from Belfast named Huggins and knows how to handle terrorists after twenty years fighting with the IRA. He sends his regards and says he'd love to have you here. Thinks you'd make a great police chief, even though the cops would be more frightened of you than the local hoods (then he laughed) I heard one doofus on MSNBC the other night talk about how "nearly 60" GIs have been killed since 01 May.
The truth is that 21 GIs have been killed in combat, mostly from ambush, from 01 May through 30 June, Another 29 have been killed by accidents or other causes (two drowned while swimming in the Tigris).
The [MSNBC turd] is the same jerk who reported on the air that "dozens of GIs" were badly burned when two RPGs hit a truck belonging to an Engineer Battalion that was parked by a construction site. The truck was hit and burned, three GIs received minor injuries (including the driver who burnt his hand) and three warriors of Allah were promptly sent to enjoy their 72 slave girls in Paradise. Hell of a way to get laid.

A mosque in that shithole Fallujah blew up this morning while the local imam, a creep named Fahlil (who was one of the biggest local loudmouths that frequently appeared on CNN) was helping a Syrian Hamas member teach eight teenagers how to make belt bombs. Right away the local Feyhadeen propaganda group started wailing that the Americans hit it with a TOW missile (If they had there wouldn't have been any mosque left!) and the usual suspects took to the streets for CNN and BBC. One fool was dragging around a piece of tin with blood on it, claiming it was part of the missile.

The cameras rolled and the idiot started repeating his story, then one of my guys asked him in Arabic where he had left the rag he usually wore around his face that made him look like a girl. He was a local leader of the Feyhadeen. We took the clown in custody and were asked rather indignantly by the twit from BBC if we were trying to shut up "the poor man who had seen his mosque and friends blown up." I told the airy-fairy who the raghead was and if he knew Arabic (which he obviously didn't) he'd know he was a Palestinian. I suggested we take him down to the local jail and we'd lock him and his cameraman in a cell with the "poor man" and they could interview him until we took him to headquarters. They declined the invitation.

Guess what played on the Bullshit Broadcasting System that evening? Did the Americans blow up a mosque? See the poor man who is still in a state of shock over losing his mosque and relatives? Yep. Our friend the Palestinian.

Our search and destroy missions are largely at night, free of reporters and generally terrifying to those brave warriors of Allah.

The only thing that frightens them more is hearing the word "Gitmo".

The word is out that a trip to Guantanimo Bay is not a Caribbean vacation and they usually start squealing like the little mice they are, when an interrogator mentions "Gitmo".No wonder the International Red Cross, the National Council of Churches and the French keep protesting about the place.
They know it has proven to be very effective in keeping several hundred real fanatical psychopaths in check and very frankly would rather see them cut loose to go kill some more GIs or innocent Americans, just to make W. look bad.

We have about 200 really bad guys in custody now and probably will park them in the desert behind a triple roll of razor wire, backed up by a couple of Bradleys pointed their way, if they decide to riot. Maybe a few will get to Gitmo but most are human garbage that wouldn't take on your five-year old grandson face-to-face. The more we go after them and not vice-versa I think we will see the sniper attacks go down. Yeah, they'll get lucky now and then, but it's showtime, fellows.

Our first objective is to get the die-hards off the street (or make them too scared to come out in them) and destroy their caches of weapons (we have collected more than 227,000 A-47s and that is only the tip of the iceburg; Curly bought nearly a million of them from our pal Vladimir), then cut off their money supply, mostly from Syria and Lebanon. We must continue to get public services up and running, so the local families can get water, sewage and garbage service; electricity, public transportation; oil fields and refineries working and a dinar that won't halve in value every month.

It's going to be a long haul (remember it took 10-15 years in Japan and West Germany) but if we don't stick with it, nobody else will, and we'll have some other looney running the place again.

This place has greater potential than Saudi Arabia (bunch of goat-herders who struck black gold) or Iran (weird dudes who can't run a rug bazaar much less a major country).

Armageddon, here we come. Remember, it's located on the outskirts of Jerusalem.

Enough of that cheery speculation. The good news is that General Schoonmaker is going to appointed ChiefArmy and the old man is coming to Tampa to run the SpOps desk at CentComm. He's tops and will be getting his second star.

To me it means that SpOps will be more predominant in future operations and after 18 years as a GB maybe I'll have a shot at a bird-level combat command.The old man asked me to come to MacDill and be his ACS but I told him after I spent four months changing the diapers of the media types, I wanted to go back to action. Hence, my current gig.

As the movie quoted old General Patton, "God help me, I love it." I do.

Nothing more satisfying than working with the BEST damn soldiers in the world, flushing real human poop down the drain and giving some folks a chance at trying freedom for a change.

They may learn to like it and then my great-great-grandson won't have to worry about some maniac trying to destroy the planet.

My tour is over at the end of August, and I plan to return to Tampa, brief the old man, then head to San Rafael and see my two sweethearts. I'd like to visit my parents in Toronto and my brother in London, before taking on a trip across the country. Just like any other family. It will charge my batteries before I end up back in some other shit ... er, interesting and challenging location. I hope to see most of you and ask for some advice, not support. I know I've had that all along.

Thanks.

Now about that Maker's Mark.

God Bless America

Mark.

"War doesn't determine who wins, war determines who is left"
13 posted on 07/18/2003 9:14:43 AM PDT by mbynack
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To: dead
Perhaps these soldiers need to be gently reminded to...

Know your role and shut your hole!

I am not saying that they don't need to be rotated out, but they need to know that their job is to do what they are ordered to do.

Maybe they need a little remedial training and I know just the man to give it to them.

Drop and Give me 25, MAGGOT!

14 posted on 07/18/2003 9:15:02 AM PDT by mattdono
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To: mattdono
That's the problem. They DIDN'T get R. Lee Ermey IV's motivational speeches :o)
15 posted on 07/18/2003 9:18:29 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
I've always heard my husband say, "If a soldier ain't bitchin', then he ain't happy.". They all complain in some way. But what surprises me most is these guys complaining publicly to the press and saying bad things about the president or Rumsfeld. Yeah, soldiers complain all the time, but they usually do it amongst themselves. Anyways, these articles are really disgusting my husband. If he was told that he's going to Iraq tomorrow, he would gladly go and trade places with these NCOs in a heart beat.
16 posted on 07/18/2003 9:22:14 AM PDT by rangerwife
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To: dead
"When we heard General Blount telling us on the radio we had to stay, we shook our heads and said, 'We knew, we knew it'," Captain John Ives said. "I left home just after my son's first birthday. If we go home in September, as they promise, he'll have had a year without me. But that date is like Jell-O; you know, it wobbles back and forth, no stability."

Gee Captain, you're setting a great example for your troops. The grunts' lot in life is to bitch but you should keep your mouth shut, SIR!

17 posted on 07/18/2003 9:22:34 AM PDT by hattend
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To: mbynack
Great post.

Does that have it's own thread? It should.

18 posted on 07/18/2003 9:23:38 AM PDT by dead
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To: greydog
As a side note I would give that red-haired geek "soldier" with the Elton John glasses that said on international news that "If Donald Rumsfield was here, I would ask for his resignation" a Dishonorable, cut him loose right there, and let him find his own way home.

Not only that, but the Bush administration must either cut that bastard loose, shoot him, or fire Rumsfeld. Any course of action other than one of these will permanently damage whatever credibility it has.

19 posted on 07/18/2003 9:24:39 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: mbynack
That, my friend, is the best reporting from Iraq I have heard from any source.
20 posted on 07/18/2003 9:26:23 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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