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THAT URANIUM STORY
NRO ^ | 7/14/2003 | David Frum

Posted on 07/14/2003 8:59:22 PM PDT by Utah Girl

On the ground floor of the White House is the Map Room, so-called because it was here that Franklin Roosevelt used to get his briefings on the progress of World War II. Over the mantel is the last map FDR saw before his death. It shows American, British, and Soviet troops racing toward Berlin. It also shows a frightening concentration of German forces in the Nazis’ last redoubt, the mountains of Bavaria.

We now know of course that this last redoubt did not exist. American intelligence had been deceived. And it’s possible that policymakers also deceived themselves. Roosevelt, for reasons of his own, wanted to let the Russians have the honor – and suffer the losses – of an assault on Berlin. The belief in the last redoubt was a very useful belief: It justified FDR’s wish to avoid joining the battle for Berlin.

Intelligence is a very uncertain business. And there’s no doubt that consumers of intelligence tend to be quicker to accept uncertain information that confirms their prejudices than uncertain information that calls those prejudices into question. Since consumers of intelligence are usually prejudiced in favor of doing little, most of the time they prefer intelligence that errs on the side of minimizing dangers.

9/11 changed the way American officials looked at the world. So when they got reports that Iraq was seeking to buy uranium in Niger, you can understand why they took the information seriously. That information has since turned out to be false – and its falsity has generated a major political controversy, as bitter-end opponents of this president and the war on terror try to exploit the administration’s error.

The controversy turns on the fact that some in the CIA doubted the story from the start. Their warnings were apparently disregarded, that is assuming that they were adequately communicated in the first place. Why? One reason may be that the CIA’s warnings on Iraq matters had lost some of their credibility in the 1990s. The agency was regarded by many in the Bush administration as reflexively and implacably hostile to any activist policy in Iraq. Those skeptics had come to believe that the agency was slanting its information on Iraq in order to maneuver the administration into supporting the agency’s own soft-line policies.

So when the Bush administration got skeptical news on the Niger uranium matter, it would not be surprising if mid-level policymakers mentally filed it under the heading “more of the same from the CIA,” filed it, and discounted it. The tendency was redoubled by the origin of the Niger-debunking report: Joseph C. Wilson. For more about him, see Clifford May's important post in last week's NRO. The result was the strange formulation in the State of the Union speech, in which the Niger story was cited – but attributed to British intelligence.

The story is an embarrassment for all concerned. But it no more undercuts the case for the Iraq war than FDR’s mistake in 1945 retroactively discredited the case for World War II. The United States did not overthrow Saddam Hussein because he was buying uranium in Niger. It overthrow him because he was a threat to the United States, to his neighbors, to his own people, and to the peace of a crucial region of the globe. All of that is just as true as it was on the day the President delivered his speech containing the errant 16 words – and the war is just as right and justified today as it was then.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: britsstandbystory; cia; davidfrum; frostedyellowcake; intelligence; josephwilson; mycousinknowsclay; niger; opus; sotu; uranium; wmd
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To: Dane
Fine, then post on how Ron Paul was right to oppose the Iraqi operation. Your focus on being anti-Bush, shows lack of conviction in your candidate, Ron Paul, and a cowardice to promote his position, IMO.

Hmmm... criticism of any sitting politician is cowardice.

I see.

381 posted on 07/15/2003 9:52:15 AM PDT by OWK
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To: Miss Marple
I'll gladly be a member of "THE" pack! Perhaps we can call ourselves BUSHPACKERS. (as opposed to the RATPACKERS)
382 posted on 07/15/2003 9:52:48 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: OWK
Old Biddie free?

Yeah, and full of malcontents and self absorbed sanctimonious old farts. You'd fit right in.

383 posted on 07/15/2003 9:53:07 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Dane
Dang, Dane, that's your best strawman argument yet.
384 posted on 07/15/2003 9:53:35 AM PDT by dirtboy (Not enough words in FR taglines to adequately describe the dimensions of Hillary's thunderous thighs)
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To: Miss Marple; Howlin; OWK
Yikes, I'm going to have to bookmark this thread for careful reading when I get my new computer at home! Just scanning the most recent 50 posts or so is breathtaking.
385 posted on 07/15/2003 9:53:58 AM PDT by mombonn (Have you prayed for our President yet today?)
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To: Howlin
Exactly how is it that I *operate,* Mr. Know It All.

Just like you are now.

386 posted on 07/15/2003 9:53:58 AM PDT by OWK
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To: Howlin
What would FR be without a bunch of old biddies running around accusing anyone who doesn't have a Bush shrine in their bedroom closet, of "working with the DU".

It would look just like Liberty Post looks right now.

Bullseye.

Trace

387 posted on 07/15/2003 9:54:02 AM PDT by Trace21230 (Ideal MOAB test site: Paris)
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To: Dane
(tax cuts).... You are still getting them aren't you.

Not really. The AMT takes it right back. It is smoke-and-mirrors re-distribution. The bottom-line red spending just delays it for my kids. That is taxation without representation my friend.

388 posted on 07/15/2003 9:54:14 AM PDT by Lysander (My army can kill your army)
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To: Miss Marple
Did this uranium sought story start all this? I never thought I'd hear myself say it; but, please Judge, lift the gag order on the Laci Peterson case and let's get this over with.

God bless President George W. Bush, our troops, and America. Heaven knows we need a good blessin'.
389 posted on 07/15/2003 9:54:34 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: mombonn
Long time no see.
390 posted on 07/15/2003 9:54:34 AM PDT by OWK
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bookmarking
391 posted on 07/15/2003 9:54:52 AM PDT by SpookBrat
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To: OWK
I'm sitting here reading your posts and responding. How is that any different that what you're doing?
392 posted on 07/15/2003 9:55:07 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Jim Robinson
I'm with you, Jim. He's not perfect but he's the best man for the job, especially since 911.
393 posted on 07/15/2003 9:55:28 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: Howlin
"Self absorbed santimonious old farts" has the ring of truth! Shazam..........YOU now have "the gift". LOL
394 posted on 07/15/2003 9:55:59 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: Howlin
Yeah, and full of malcontents and self absorbed sanctimonious old farts. You'd fit right in.

Sounds like half the guild.

I'll pass. Thanks just the same.

395 posted on 07/15/2003 9:56:23 AM PDT by OWK
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To: Miss Marple; mombonn; Carolinamom
Hey, want to join my "pack?"

In the interest of fairness, I think we should have some sort of FR "rush"....then people could decide whether they wanted to be one of YOUR "pack" or one of MY "harpies."

396 posted on 07/15/2003 9:56:33 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: OWK
Hmmm... criticism of any sitting politician is cowardice.

I see

LOL! I am not the one who inttiated the force of their comments on this thread against a candidate for President in 2004, while being totally silent on the "goodness" of the political issues of your(OWK's) perfect candidate, Ron Paul.

I am surmising that you will have "this does not compute" moment, since no Libertarian cannot intiate force.

397 posted on 07/15/2003 9:57:04 AM PDT by Dane
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To: OWK
You'd know more about The Guild than I would, I'm sure. You guys sure are obsessed with it.

Issues with women?
398 posted on 07/15/2003 9:57:05 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Carolinamom; Howlin; Miss Marple
I have posted along with you ladies many times, applauding President Bush on many things. But don't get so mad if we want to point out some criticisms we have of him. Do I want Al Gore instead? No. Did I vote for GW Bush? Yes. Do I think he's a good man? Yes. But I simply will not accept any more spending increases quietly, and have questions about some of his other domestic agenda items views.

I worked my fanny off in 2002 to get Republicans into the majority and all I get is increased spending, larger gov't programs. I don't want to 'get along' with the Democrats in the hopes that one day one thing will be passed that I agree with.

If Bush would be as firm as he was immediately after 9-11 when it comes to the domestic agenda, that would be wonderful. Instead, he pushes legislation Teddy Kennedy applauds. It should be me applauding, not the Tedster, right?
399 posted on 07/15/2003 9:57:58 AM PDT by eyespysomething (The advertisement is the most truthful part of a newspaper - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: dirtboy
Its starting to smell like burnt cookies and hair coloring in here.

I gotta scoot.

I'll check in later.

400 posted on 07/15/2003 9:58:33 AM PDT by OWK
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