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A real shame, what a beautiful place..
1 posted on 07/14/2003 9:42:55 AM PDT by ewing
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2 posted on 07/14/2003 9:44:40 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: ewing
The ACLU is evil.
3 posted on 07/14/2003 9:45:54 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: ewing
"The National Park Service will make any rules they want preventing the establishment of a religion, and prohibiting the free-exercise thereof...whenever they want."
5 posted on 07/14/2003 9:49:13 AM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: ewing
Good thing I don't need a plaque to remind me of the wonders of God's creation.
6 posted on 07/14/2003 9:49:14 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: ewing
This is just so sad.
7 posted on 07/14/2003 9:50:37 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Bush/Cheney in '04 and Tommy Daschole out the door)
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To: ewing
And who do these folks think created the Grand Canyon?

(hint)...It wasn't some hindu god.

8 posted on 07/14/2003 9:57:35 AM PDT by Guenevere (...a Florida resident for almost 30 years!!)
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To: ewing
It would appear the NPS just caved in to the ACLU without any fight whatsoever. This is sad and frightening.
9 posted on 07/14/2003 9:57:56 AM PDT by upchuck (Contribute to "Republicans for Al Sharpton for President in 2004." Dial 1-800-SLAPTHADONKEY :)
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To: ewing
This ALCU bunch must be a really bad bunch of dudes. They make one complaint and get a Plaque removed; all the while The ACLU has been fighting for Thirty Years to get it done!
"EVIL I Guess" Both are trash and need haulled off and burried in a liberal cesspool!
10 posted on 07/14/2003 10:00:04 AM PDT by winker
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To: ewing
But the park service decided that one of the main trails down into the canyon can still be called 'Bright Angel' and that a number of the canyons formations can be named after Hindu gods.

But of course! We wouldn't want offend anyone of the Hindu religion with our "separation of church and state" nonsense.

11 posted on 07/14/2003 10:00:51 AM PDT by The Brush
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To: ewing
...we were there, for the first time, 2 years ago.

I don't remember seeing these verses even though they were there....

..but I was still dumbstruck at the majesty of God's creation anyway.

The ACLU will continue to get away with whatever they can get away with.

But God's handiwork will shine through....

And the ACLU will definitely know His opinion of their actions, someday.

12 posted on 07/14/2003 10:01:11 AM PDT by Guenevere (...a Florida resident for almost 30 years!!)
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To: ewing
No one can say they're anti-religious - at least they preserved the Hindu Gods, and Zoroaster, Wotan, and Osiris!
13 posted on 07/14/2003 10:01:42 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: ewing
Additional info: Bible
14 posted on 07/14/2003 10:02:54 AM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: ewing
I dont blame ACLU as much as the person who brought it to their attention. The only thing that person did was show me that he/she/it is an assh*le.
15 posted on 07/14/2003 10:04:36 AM PDT by cardinal4 (The Senate Armed Services Comm; the Chinese pipeline into US secrets)
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To: ewing
American Civil Liberties Union claimed they violated separation of church and state.

Well now the park service is enforcing the soviet constitiuion. The ACLU and all the communists have been very clever about claims that things "violate the separation of church and state". These words appear only in the constitution of the former soviet union..Technically they are correct, it violates a constitution but not ours. And these park service people, judges and everyone else don't know enough about our own constitution to realize it, or they are behind the lie, forcing compliance with the soviet constitution because it fits their political agenda.
16 posted on 07/14/2003 10:08:09 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: ewing
Does anyone who where the ACLU gets its money?
18 posted on 07/14/2003 10:12:32 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay
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To: LiteKeeper
Ping
19 posted on 07/14/2003 10:15:06 AM PDT by chance33_98 (http://home.frognet.net/~thowell/haunt/ ---->our ghosty page)
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To: ewing
If you look at the history of the ACLU's First Amendment "estblishment clause" litigation, it quickly becomes apparent that what the ACLU really objects to is anything to do with Christianity. If it's Satanic or involves bizarre sexual behavior, they're all for it, especially if some serial killer in prison wants to practice it.
So...why DO the heathen rage???
22 posted on 07/14/2003 10:18:28 AM PDT by Spok
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To: ewing
I think the National Parks Service is on the same page as the ACLU on this one. Hasn't Parks been overrun with berret-wearing lefties over the past couple of decades?

The Hindu-gods-thing is probably their own idea.
23 posted on 07/14/2003 10:19:44 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: ewing
Our country's institutions are being destroyed, and our history is being blurred and torn up. I won't be surprised in 20 years, that all mentions of God in the Declaration of Independence will be removed, and history books will have God no where to be found in their American History section.
24 posted on 07/14/2003 10:20:47 AM PDT by yonif
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To: ewing
Such a hideous turn of events.

Such a robbery of our heritage.

Worked there one summer during my BA program at NAU.

Worked for Emery C Kolb at the head of Bright Angel Trail.

Great experience.

I used to marvel . . .

a station wagon would pull up from upper Main or lower Florida or some such distant place . . .

Mom and dad would pile out and head for the bar. The kids would head for the curios. The dog would go out and look at the Canyon.

Then there were the various park staff who had fun convincing the various visitors--especially little old harmless ladies--that the lights at night half way down the canyon were submarines docking at a special dock down there.

And, of course, the high falootin eastern socialite types who would ask if there was a dining car on the mule train to the bottom.

And the occasional mule wrangler who'd fiestily threaten to get a mule to dump an obstreperous and extra mouthy dame or 'gent' over the side if they didn't shape up. But those days are probably over. Management didn't appreciate such crowd control even just threat methods.

Very few people have ever been lost on the mule train in any way, shape or form. But reservations must be made at least a year in advance. The waiting list for cancellations is extensive.

Anyway--loved the place.

A very spiritual place. Hated the Hindu god names.

And I hated the government badgering of Mr Kolb until he sold out.

If you go--PLEASE SPEND AT LEAST 24 HOURS THERE. And see the Canyon in early morning and late evening light. And pray for rain. It's also great in winter.

Then there are people predicting it will be undersea before our era is out.

I believe Hoover dam will be breached. I hope Glen Canyon isn't. Seepage through the porous sandstone is bad enough.

enough rambling.
25 posted on 07/14/2003 10:29:47 AM PDT by Quix (LIVE THREAD NOW STARTED. UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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