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Accused Murderer Scott Woodring Is Dead
WZZM 13 ^ | 7/13/2003 | Sheri Diorio

Posted on 07/13/2003 2:01:40 PM PDT by TERMINATTOR

Accused Murderer Scott Woodring Is Dead
By Sheri Diorio
Posted: 7/13/2003

Michigan State Police say Scott Woodring is dead. Woodring is accused in the shooting death of Michigan State Trooper Kevin Marshall.

Police say Woodring was found early Sunday morning in a car at Maple Island Road and 60th Street in Dayton Township on the Newaygo County line. Police say Woodring got out of the car when police approached and pointed an assault rifle at police. That's when police shot and killed Woodring.

The standoff between police and Woodring began last Sunday. That's when police tried to serve Woodring a warrant at his Dayton Township home on charges of accosting children for immoral purposes. During the standoff on Monday, police say Woodring shot and killed Trooper Marshall. On Tuesday after a police fired a percussion round, Woodring's home burned to the ground.

Stay tuned to WZZM 13 for continuing coverage of the Woodring case.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; chaplin; copkillerisdead; execution; jbts; militia; rkba; scottwoodring
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To: CWOJackson
Yes, a murdering freak is just an eccentric fellow to you. Well that explains everything.

I will believe he is a murdering freak and condem him as such just as soon as I see a forensic analysis explaining how & why Officer Taylor was facing away from the action.

For the second time, do you have a link to that kind of analysis?

I have raised questions about this incident which show significant inconsistencies in the story as published.

I am perfectly willing to discuss the incident and be persuaded that the story is somewhow true, but it appears you would rather hurl insults than engage in a rational discussion.

If you don't have a link to an analysis, what is your theory as to how Officer Taylor was shot in the buttocks such that the bullet traveled up his body and hit vital organs?

222 posted on 07/13/2003 10:53:02 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: CWOJackson
In the words of CurlyDave, Matsuidonan was simply an "eccentric fellow was gunned down by police".

No rationalization is too inane for the cop haters in our midst.

223 posted on 07/13/2003 10:55:54 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Joe Hadenuf
"Once you bring in outside, civilian observers so to speak, they can come along with their own agendas and luggage, and actually hinder law enforcement."

I generally don't agree with most of your comments but you are correct in this instance, IMHO. Our "CCRB" (Civilian complaint review board) is made up of Marxist lawyers and liberals and overseen by a city council that has an ex-black panther as one of its most visible members. How can a decent cop operate in areas where the majority of the citizenry has either been locked up or is related to someone who has?

I think the way to go is strong internal enforcement. The "rat squad" (to use old school NYPD terminology) isn't popular, but they are effective without being vindictive.

224 posted on 07/13/2003 10:58:03 PM PDT by newwahoo
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To: CWOJackson
"I will believe he is a murdering freak and condem him as such just as soon as I see a forensic analysis explaining how & why Officer Taylor was facing away from the action." -- CurlyDave

Don't you see, CWOJackson, it was Officer Taylor's fault that Don Matthews shot him in the back

225 posted on 07/13/2003 10:59:17 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Don't you see, CWOJackson, it was Officer Taylor's fault that Don Matthews shot him in the back

What part of the English language don't you understand?

According to the coronor Taylor was shot in the buttocks. While you may consider this a part of your back it is lower on most bodies. In some instances the buttocks envelope the head which may be the case with you. The bullet traveled upwards and hit vital organs. This is an established fact.

Either you are woefully ignorant of the behavior of firearms and projectiles, or you are being deliberately obtuse.

There are very few credible ways in the which this could have happened, almost none in my opinion. There are credible ways in which another officer could have shot Taylor while shooting at Matthews.

Why are you reluctant to think about this possibility?

Explain how Matthews could have shot Taylor in the butt & had the bullet hit "vital organs".

226 posted on 07/13/2003 11:26:16 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: RGSpincich
"good citizens of Anne Arundel County"...

May I presume that you are not one of those?
227 posted on 07/13/2003 11:30:04 PM PDT by Spirited
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To: CurlyDave
"I will believe he is a murdering freak and condem him as such just as soon as I see..."

No you wouldn't. Your kind will always find some way to defend sick animals like him.

228 posted on 07/13/2003 11:39:50 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CurlyDave
According to the coronor Taylor was shot in the buttocks. While you may consider this a part of your back it is lower on most bodies. In some instances the buttocks envelope the head which may be the case with you. The bullet traveled upwards and hit vital organs.

How does that excuse the scum Matsuidon? That's gotta be your most pathetic attempted rationalization yet.

229 posted on 07/14/2003 12:19:12 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: CWOJackson
Have you followed the shooting of Kendra James by the Portland police in early May? Lots of inconsistencies in the various reports. One said she was shot from at least 24 inches away while at the same time the cop who fired the fatal bullet said he had half his body inside the vehicle. Lots of other inconsistencies. The Multnomah County DA lied at a public forum when he said Garner v. Tennessee, 471 US 1 (1985) was not a case on point. I told him he was a liar and that the only reason he didn't get a grand jury indictment of the cop was because he didn't want to get one. I got a standing ovation from about 500 attendees for that comment.
230 posted on 07/14/2003 2:40:29 AM PDT by connectthedots
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To: strela
More like Fatty Arbuckle Woodring. He too was a murderer.

Actually,the evidence points to Fatty Arbuckle being innocent - Virginia Rappe being the victim of a botched abortion a few days prior, and Fatty set up for the fall by studio enemies. Check out the book Frame-Up! for details.

Nothing personal, just a pet peeve of mine...Fatty was funny!
231 posted on 07/14/2003 2:47:42 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (where is Count Petofi when we need him most?)
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To: spunkets
You have confirmed my suspicions.

You and the others ignor rational questions based on published news reports from the scene.

The hatred and condescension that is evident in your post speaks of the new age in America and it is not a better place
232 posted on 07/14/2003 4:44:09 AM PDT by rebel
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To: CurlyDave
Explain how Matthews could have shot Taylor in the butt & had the bullet hit "vital organs".

Very easily. If I remember, the officers were scrambling for cover when Matthews (a former Freeper, btw - friend of yours?) let loose with his gun. Normally, a buttock shot hitting vital organs would be kinda weird, but the gun Matthews used was (again, if I remember) a Makarov. Sporting a cartridge that is something of a performer, and which can - with the right bullet - punch through body armor. Which is probably why he selected this not really common pistol.

It appears to be you who are deficient in your firearms knowledge.

233 posted on 07/14/2003 4:48:23 AM PDT by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: CurlyDave
What does this news story tell us about the above the law and mindset of LE in America. Of course, these stories are caused by the minority LE. I just hope one does stop me.

Read this and tell me if you feel safer.

Philadelphia Daily News
7/5/2003
NICOLE WEISENSEGA

These are the troopers who were found by state police investigators to have committed sexual misconduct, where they were assigned when the incidents allegedly happened, the accusations against them, and the troopers' defense, if any.

Samuel Derugen Jr.. Troop G, Rockview. Accused of defecating on another trooper at a party, and of sticking a carrot in his butt then eating it. He said he passed gas on the trooper, but did not defecate, and shot the carrot out of his butt, then ate it as a prank.

Richard Geffken. Troop P, Wyoming Vice/Narcotics Unit. A drug dealer contended that she had had a sexual relationship with Geffken, who bought drugs from her as part of his undercover work, and that he had discussed details of a federal narcotics investigation with her. He said she had hit on him but he rebuffed her and that he told her about the federal investigation after the Drug Enforcement Administration already had told her.

Allen Hathaway. Troop G, Philipsburg. Had sex with a woman in a patrol car. He said they only had been talking.

John Lee Highsmith. Troop B, Findlay Station. Shoved a girlfriend in the back, and she fell and her left cheek struck the edge of a storage chest. He said, "I gave her a shove... . Just a shove to kind of maybe push her back a step or two from my proximity."

Jeff Johnson. Troop G, Philipsburg. A husband accused him of having an affair with his wife. Johnson admitted the affair.

Darren Lawrence. Troop K. Female narcotics informant said he and two other troopers (whose names were blacked out from the report because they were not found guilty) sexually abused her in police vehicles when they were on and off duty. Lawrence said he had not known she was an informant and that he had sex with her only once, while off duty, in his personal car.

William Long. Troop R, Honesdale. Raped a woman at her home while on duty. He said it was consensual.

Nicole Palmer and Vicki Sellitto, then cadets. Pennsylvania State Police Academy, Hershey. Took photos of another female cadet naked as she emerged from the shower. Palmer and Sellitto said it had been a practical joke.

Brent W. Robb. Troop G, Lewistown. Accused of physically abusing his wife. She said he "grabbed her by the upper arms and threw her out of his way" and bruised her upper arms. He said she had been trying to prevent him from leaving their home so he grabbed her by her upper arms and "put her down on the bed with just enough force to put here there." He also said she "bruises easily."

Joseph J. Scobbo III. Troop E, Meadville. Photos show him
standing naked with a group of people at the 1999 Thunder in the Cascades bike rally. He said he did not remember why he and the others had been standing naked but said they could have been changing clothes.

Roger Stipcak. Troop F, Montoursville. Had sex with a woman while working the midnight shift. He admitted it.

Derek Unrue. Troop P, Shickshinny. Accused of having sex with prostitutes employed by escort services in the Luzerne and Lackawanna county areas. He said he had used escort services at least 21 times to satisfy a fetish but had not had sexual intercourse.

Troop S, Harrisburg. Troopers watching porn video while on duty. Troopers were not interviewed individually about whether or not they had done so.


P.S.

On the evening of Oct. 26, 1998, Trooper Samuel M. Derugen Jr., of Troop G in Rockview, was at a party at a fellow trooper's home to watch the Pittsburgh Steelers game.

By the end of the night, the only guests left were Derugen and five other unnamed troopers. A few of the troopers started wrestling, and Derugen walked up to them and passed gas, according to the internal-affairs report. He did not, as was originally alleged, try to defecate on the head of the trooper that was being held down, Derugen and other troopers told internal affairs.

He did admit to what happened next.

"I stood up in a chair, pulled my pants down enough to bare my buttock and inserted a two-inch carrot into my rectum," he wrote in an Oct. 18, 1998, statement to Lt. Michael J. Hample, patrol section supervisor at Troop G, Hollidaysburg.

"I then tightened my abdomen forcing the carrot out of my rectum and fly approximately three feet across the room," he continued. "The mentioned troopers were laughing and calling me a 'sick f-----.' I said, 'You think that's sick and funny, watch this,' and I ate the carrot.




234 posted on 07/14/2003 5:07:57 AM PDT by rebel
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To: Brytani
From you:

Let's not let facts get in the way. And this gem:

SWAT wasn't there when Woodring killed the state patrol officer - what planet are you visiting this time?

Marshall write-up

Really? This one says he was on the Michigan State Police Emergency Support Team. A SWAT unit by any other name...

Once again, if the SWAT team wasn't there, then how could the Trooper have been there?

235 posted on 07/14/2003 5:36:34 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Kevin Curry
Give it a rest.

Did you notice the little winky face? I was screwing around.

Cultural Jihad is rational

He's rational unless you're takling to him aboot guns.

236 posted on 07/14/2003 6:16:09 AM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: Roscoe
How does that excuse the scum Matsuidon?

You're the only one who brought up Matsuidon, dumiss. He probably doesn't even know who he is.

237 posted on 07/14/2003 6:20:33 AM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: rebel
" suspicions... rational questions... The hatred and condescension that is evident in your post speaks of the new age in America and it is not a better place"

Get a grip son. You're lost.

238 posted on 07/14/2003 6:44:28 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: newwahoo
How can a decent cop operate in areas where the majority of the citizenry has either been locked up or is related to someone who has?

Have you considered that perhaps we have burdened the citizenry with a few too many laws ... for their own good? In these areas you speak of, what would you say is the most common "crime". What law has criminalized these citizens? If you have any real stats that would be very interesting. It's says something about our society, that we have created entire communities where there are just ... police ... and criminals ...no "ordinary citizens... that’s odd somehow don't you think?
239 posted on 07/14/2003 6:46:24 AM PDT by THEUPMAN (#### comment deleted by moderator)
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To: jmc813
He probably doesn't even know who he is.

Taylor.

240 posted on 07/14/2003 6:47:47 AM PDT by Roscoe
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