[newwahoo]

"Once you bring in outside, civilian observers so to speak, they can come along with their own agendas and luggage, and actually hinder law enforcement."

I generally don't agree with most of your comments but you are correct in this instance, IMHO. Our "CCRB" (Civilian complaint review board) is made up of Marxist lawyers and liberals and overseen by a city council that has an ex-black panther as one of its most visible members. How can a decent cop operate in areas where the majority of the citizenry has either been locked up or is related to someone who has?

I think the way to go is strong internal enforcement. The "rat squad" (to use old school NYPD terminology) isn't popular, but they are effective without being vindictive.

[THEUPMAN]

How can a decent cop operate in areas where the majority of the citizenry has either been locked up or is related to someone who has?

Have you considered that perhaps we have burdened the citizenry with a few too many laws ... for their own good? In these areas you speak of, what would you say is the most common "crime". What law has criminalized these citizens? If you have any real stats that would be very interesting. It's says something about our society, that we have created entire communities where there are just ... police ... and criminals ...no "ordinary citizens... that’s odd somehow don't you think?