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Why we cheat - ( Women )
New York Post ^ | July 13, 2003 | Susan Edelman

Posted on 07/13/2003 11:34:31 AM PDT by UnklGene

WHY WE CHEAT

By SUSAN EDELMAN -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FORBIDDEN PLEASURES: Some researchers believe changes in gender roles are prompting more married women to sleep around.

July 13, 2003 -- More women are cheating on their husbands - and doing it without remorse, sex researchers say. A stunning 90 percent of adulterous wives told one Manhattan researcher they suffered "no guilt," but rather felt "entitled" to the pleasure and excitement of their secret trysts, said Susan Shapiro Barash, a gender-studies professor and author.

"Women feel entitled because they're not getting what they need in the marriage. That's why women today have affairs," said Barash, who interviewed 120 wandering women for her recent book on female infidelity, "A Passion for More: Wives Reveal the Affairs that Make or Break their Marriages."

Based on her research, Barash contends that more than 60 percent of all married women will engage in at least one affair.

And many such women - despite socioeconomic differences - can empathize with someone like Kerry Kennedy Cuomo, Barash said.

In a breakup that rocked political and high-society circles, Kennedy Cuomo, 43, split two weeks ago from her husband of 13 years, Andrew Cuomo, over her alleged affair with randy restaurateur Bruce Colley, who is also married with children.

"These women would recognize her need - her desire to have more in her life than she had in her marriage," said Barash, who interviewed everyone from bus dispatchers, cops and stay-at-home moms to high-powered financiers, doctors and lawyers for her study.

"For the women who choose it, it's with great effort, so they really juggle the affair and somehow fit it in."

Barash found her sexually active subjects by posting ads in YWCAs and asking women who responded to refer friends who were having affairs.

Some therapists don't agree with Barash. They say many wandering women experience shame and regret - and seek help for adulterous urges.

"I have not witnessed a growing experience of 'entitlement.' Their conscience is bothering them," said Kristen Harrington, a marriage counselor who treats couples for infidelity in upstate Kingston.

But other experts agreed that more women today are determined to dally and less sorry about straying.

"I don't see women feeling a lot of guilt," said Baltimore psychologist Shirley Glass, whose book, "Not Just Friends: Protect Your Relationship from Infidelity and Heal the Trauma of Betrayal," was published this year.

Like other daughters of sexually unfaithful fathers, Glass said, Kerry Kennedy Cuomo, the daughter of Robert Kennedy, could prefer that role rather than emulate mothers who serve as "martyrs" and "doormats."

Women with careers and financial resources can take more risks, she added: "If their partners find out, they can take care of themselves."

Glass also found surprising changes in men who mess around.

Traditionally, men's affairs were purely sexual, often involving a male in power enjoying "a little on the side" with a female subordinate.

"Now, men and women are working together as equals, with a lot of intellectual energy and common interests," Glass said. "It's a combination of emotional and sexual bonds. And it's more dangerous because it creates an alternative to the marriage, rather than just a supplement."

But equality hasn't erased the differences in why men and women cheat, other experts argue.

"Men have affairs to boost their self-esteem and because it's available. Their feelings are closely tied to their sexuality and potency," said Brooklyn psychologist Marcella Bakur Weiner.

"Women don't just want a night of joy and pleasure," she said. "No matter what the feminists say, women want love. They want emotional attachment and bonding."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
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To: sonofron
No, because in 100 years, computers will do the flying. People will fly only as a hobby. That is my guess.
181 posted on 07/13/2003 6:52:46 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: viaveritasvita
Actually, I think the serpent choosing Eve as his target shows the vulnerability of woman.

LOL! Good point. Something the "NAG-Gang" would never understand, huh? ;o)

182 posted on 07/13/2003 6:54:00 PM PDT by kstewskis ("political correctness is intellectual terrorism...." Mel Gibson)
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To: Neets
okay, but ping to what?
183 posted on 07/13/2003 6:55:32 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: viaveritasvita
Excellent CS Lewis quote (I love CS Lewis!)

C.S. LEWIS, THE FOUR LOVES: "To love at all is to be vulnerable. Love anything, and your heart will certainly be wrung and possibly be broken. If you want to make sure of keeping it intact, you must give your heart to no one, not even to an animal. Wrap your heart carefully 'round with hobbies and little luxuries; avoid all entanglements; lock it up safe in the casket or coffin of your selfishness. But in that casket -- safe, dark, motionless, airless -- it will change. It will not be broken; it will become unbreakable, impenetrable, irredeemable...There only place outside Heaven where you can be perfectly safe from all the dangers and pertubations of love is Hell...."

184 posted on 07/13/2003 6:57:59 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: viaveritasvita
LOL. No one would ever have accused my highschool self of "ministering..."

But I take your point.

185 posted on 07/13/2003 7:04:53 PM PDT by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: shekkian
>>"Kerry Kennedy Cuomo"<<

"Geez, three socialists wrapped into one."

LOL -- very good...

186 posted on 07/13/2003 7:08:14 PM PDT by F16Fighter (Ann Coulter for Attorney General... Joe Scarborough for VP...Tom Tancredo as Homeland Security Chief)
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To: longtermmemmory
>>"a man should only marry a woman with whom you would want to have a long passionate and intense affair. (The converse must hold for the woman towards the same man)"<<

If you want to define "passionate and intense affair" to at least include things other than sex, I might agree. Certainly, sexual attraction should be part of the mix, but the question is how much. The testosterone level may kick in here, but to think that any man (or woman for that matter) can carry on a passionate and intense sexual affair for a lifetime is like chasing the wind! It's not a bad thing to understand and accept that sexual passion waxes and wanes. There are other things -- good things, romantic things -- that sustain marriages. The hope that sexual passion and intensity will remain consistent throughout a lifetime is just plain silly!

The hope that romance and love and committment will last a lifetime is something else.

>>"Just the notions of a hopeless romantic"<<

Yes.
187 posted on 07/13/2003 7:09:24 PM PDT by viaveritasvita
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To: patton
Well, I finally read the whole thread. Now what?
188 posted on 07/13/2003 7:32:37 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA
Now we minister to those who need help. ;)
189 posted on 07/13/2003 7:37:27 PM PDT by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: Coop
Ibidinum, Filio.
190 posted on 07/13/2003 7:38:59 PM PDT by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: UnklGene
"Women feel entitled because they're not getting what they need in the marriage. T

Marriage is a commitment, not just something to make you feel good. The traditional vows are said without a single thought as to their meaning these days, kind of like the oath of office is to certain politicians.

The rewards you receive from any endeavor is usually measured by the amount of effort you put into it. You tend to reap what you sow.

191 posted on 07/13/2003 7:40:23 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left have blood on their hands.)
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To: patton
Now we minister to those who need help.

You must mean me, but it's past my bedtime. You can save me some other time.

192 posted on 07/13/2003 7:40:49 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog
I already did - you just have yet to admit it to yourself.

Goodnight, my friend - and by the way, Thank You, Soldier.

193 posted on 07/13/2003 7:43:04 PM PDT by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: Pukin Dog
Hee hee... you are beyond my help.
Good night.
194 posted on 07/13/2003 7:47:32 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: UnklGene
Every itchy crotch will get scratched, one way or the other.
195 posted on 07/13/2003 7:54:29 PM PDT by Old Professer
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To: patton
I don't know much about cheating women, but I do know that countless men are ready and willing to cheat on their wives. I have been pursued by a motley crew of doctors, lawyers, software developers, engineers, salesman, and CEOs .. all thinking I ought to leap at the chance for an unfettered, uncomplicated "love" affair with such stimulating, successful, intelligent, good-looking men as themselves. I should be flattered at their interest. All I see when I look at them are CHEATERS. I refuse to "minister" to them. Of course they then try to make me feel guilty for making them feel guilty, when all they wanted was "lovin'"

196 posted on 07/13/2003 7:56:23 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA
Hooray for you. I hope you totally trash them for their behavior. They are asking you to give up EVERYTHING so they can have an orgasm. You really should make them feel terrible. I commend you for your attitude and actions.
197 posted on 07/13/2003 7:59:25 PM PDT by BRL
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To: ValerieUSA
I can sympathize. Some pretty young thing actually asked me to dinner last week - I was shocked.

"I, umm, am married..."

198 posted on 07/13/2003 8:00:48 PM PDT by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: ValerieUSA
What is it about you though that tens of men ask you for sex? Is this really that common for women with a rock on their finger?
199 posted on 07/13/2003 8:01:07 PM PDT by BRL
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To: Pukin Dog
I'm reading your post with my special Penthouse 3/2 ruler magnifying glass, looks good.
200 posted on 07/13/2003 8:01:59 PM PDT by Old Professer
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