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Selling Homosexuality to America
CBN ^ | 7/11/03 | Craig von Buseck

Posted on 07/11/2003 2:12:34 PM PDT by apackof2

Selling Homosexuality to America

By Craig von Buseck
CBN.com Producer

In this exclusive interview, Paul Rondeau talks about his in-depth study, Selling Homosexuality to America, which was recently published in the Regent Law Review.

CBN.com – In his recent study, Selling Homosexuality to America, marketing expert Paul Rondeau explains, "Among America's culture wars, one of today's most intense controversies rages around the issue alternatively identified, depending on one's point of view, as "normalizing homosexuality" or "accepting gayness." The debate is truly a social-ethical-moral conceptual war that transcends both the scientific and legal, though science and law most often are the weapons of choice. The ammunition for these weapons, however, is persuasion."

This article and interview explores how gay rights activists use rhetoric, psychology, and the media to frame what is discussed in the public arena -- and how it is discussed. "In essence," Rondeau points out, "when it comes to homosexuality, activists want to shape 'what everyone knows' and 'what everyone takes for granted' even if everyone does not really know and even if it should not be taken for granted."

"The first strategy of persuasion," he goes on to say, "is to establish a favorable climate for your message so that the communicator (marketer) can influence the future decision without even appearing to be persuading ... This is at the heart of the homosexual campaign: to get consent via social construct today to determine whose idea of personal freedoms will prevail in our legal codes tomorrow."

Paul Rondeau has been a senior sales and marketing management professional with industry leaders for over 25 years. He holds an M.A. in Management, with a specialty in persuasive communication. Currently, he is a doctoral student in communication studies with a focus in rhetoric and persuasion.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: agenda; aides; cults; culturewar; downourthroats; gay; homosexual; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; homosexualvice; idolatry; marketing; nuclearfamily; paulrondeau; pc; perverts; politicallycorrect; proproganda; regentlawreview; samesexdisorder; sexualdeviants; sodomy; study
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
You make an excellent point.

The central question before us is not whether homosexuality is genetic or imprinted at an early age, but whether it is acceptable across society.

It is obvious to all but the blind that the advocates for acceptance are winning the "cultural war" not so much by reason or logic but by that nemesis of society, compassion.

AIDS was the single best thing that happened to the "homosexual movement' even while it was the worst scourge to strike its members (at least the male variety) because the sufferers became instant "victims" of an enemy as old as mankind -- disease.

Ordinary disgust became hate through repeated use of the sobriquet (homophobe) and the instinctual link that people hate what they fear; historically, society shuns the "unclean" as they might run from a rampaging animal.

What we face now is no place to run for they are so deeply emmeshed within society as to have completed their potential exposure as contagions.

So we now rank the risk of catching AIDS on the basis of our own behavior rather than that of those most likely to be the true vectors and indulge in tongue-wagging more than deep discussions of epidemiology.

Many of us take secret relief in the wholesale "outing" as it serves to alert us to the risk while it continues to displease those of us who find it unnatural and, yes immoral.

It is Monday morning in the debate on the way we should have played the game and everybody is an armchair-quarterback.

41 posted on 07/13/2003 8:46:32 AM PDT by Old Professer
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To: Old Professer
Truly reasonable people don't buy arguments that begin with: Most reasonable people...

Is that something you just came up with? Because the courts have been using the "reasonable person" standard for years.

It effectively and justifiably dismisses the frivolous, ridiculous, and overblown fearmongering that's inherent in passionate debate, as we've seen with this issue.

42 posted on 07/13/2003 10:33:37 AM PDT by tdadams
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To: tdadams
I hate having to explain everything in minute detail, but for some people there is no other way:

Anytime one begins an argument with the phrase, "Most reasonable people..." he is arguing that anyone who doesn't agree with him is unreasonable and therefore the counterargument has no merit apriori.

The use of the phrase is what galls me, since it is used smugly by mostly people who have no real argument nor interest in true debate.

43 posted on 07/13/2003 11:03:58 AM PDT by Old Professer
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To: sweetliberty
I'm with you!
44 posted on 07/13/2003 11:20:19 AM PDT by knak
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To: Old Professer
What we face now is no place to run for they are so deeply emmeshed within society as to have completed their potential exposure as contagions.

What we face is a political force called multiculturalism. The homosexual activists have joined with this powerful collectivist lobby to gain acceptance for their lifestylel. This acceptance is part of the standard multicultural indoctrination in any corporation that accepts government business.

Homosexuals have recruited among our youth for as long as time. Now the youth protection movement is threatening to stop and expose this practice, (The Boy Scouts are part of this movement BTW and this is part of the reason the homosexual lobby has such animosity for the BSA.)

The multicultural, Political Correctness, diversity movement is waging a cultural war on our society. They have a strong foothold, but stopping homosexual seduction is also ingrained in our culture. We will see who ends up the winner.

45 posted on 07/13/2003 11:37:47 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom
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To: sweetliberty
I guess it's just a matter of ideology. I don't beleive homosexuality is a choice. I in fact have male friends that, by the way, are homosexual. They are normal in every way except for the fact that they don't like women. If I do happen to have children, I would hope that I can show them what agape love is - unconditional. So that they too may practice it. Maybe that's just too passive for you, but unconditional love is what God means to me, and what he means for me to practice. I guess what I'm trying to say is that we are ALL God's children, and he shows no favoritism.

I'm sorry this makes you so angry, but one thing I keep in mind is that if a person makes me angry or disgusted, then I need to look in the mirror and figure out just why...

47 posted on 07/13/2003 1:04:50 PM PDT by PurVirgo
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To: Old Professer
The use of the phrase is what galls me, since it is used smugly by mostly people who have no real argument nor interest in true debate.

Or sometimes it's just the truth. Most people, most reasonable people, simply aren't seeing the sky falling like so many people here on FR are. That's a fact.

Maybe what's really galling you is that most people don't seem to be swayed by the bellicose and overblown anti-gay rhetoric so popular with social conservatives.

48 posted on 07/13/2003 1:09:01 PM PDT by tdadams
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To: JJDKII
I accepted your invitation to visit your home page, and I'm glad I did. It contains one of the most thoughtful and thought-provoking essays I've come across on this forum. You should really consider posting it as a vanity; it certainly deserves a wider audience.

I want to combine it with a previous posting listed as a link on my links page about "Marxist Paganism." Explore the links.

Understanding the illusions of the Left is important, because this is exactly how they operate - - through illusions and idols. It is a religious methodology mated to a totalitarian political theory, like the pagan Islamic brand of Marxism we are fighting in the War on Terror.

War is deeper than just bombs, missiles, soldiers and tanks.

49 posted on 07/13/2003 1:18:30 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: DannyTN
How can you seriously suggest that a certain percentage of population having a gay inclination is not natural? A minority of persons being gay has been an observed and recorded fact throughout historical time and throughout virtually all human societies. Of course "natural" does not necessarily equal "good."
50 posted on 07/13/2003 1:22:48 PM PDT by only1percent
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To: Old Professer
Anytime one begins an argument with the phrase, "Most reasonable people..." he is arguing that anyone who doesn't agree with him is unreasonable and therefore the counterargument has no merit apriori.

Much like Plato's Euthyphro and how Socrates challenges Euthyphro on his "piety to the gods."

51 posted on 07/13/2003 1:23:25 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: miner89
Psychologists tend to distinguish, at least among men, "situational" homosexuality and homosexual orientation, with the former being typified by gay conduct in prisons, and the like, and gay conduct among men who are denied sexual outlet with women because their community forbids premarital sex and restricts marriage to men with certain levels of income and property.
52 posted on 07/13/2003 1:26:35 PM PDT by only1percent
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To: only1percent
"How can you seriously suggest that a certain percentage of population having a gay inclination is not natural? A minority of persons being gay has been an observed and recorded fact throughout historical time and throughout virtually all human societies. Of course "natural" does not necessarily equal "good." "

Murderers have been consistently observed from the time of Cain and Abel too. They have been an observed and recorded fact throughout historical time and virually all human societies.

Therefore, using your definition of "natural", murderers are "natural". Should be create special protections for them? Dont' they have a right to "privacy".

Jeffery Dahlmer was railroaded! A victim of the vast right wing conspiracy to discriminate against murderous canibals! The laws that Dahlmer was convicted on, should be overturned because they only serve to "stigmatize" murderers! (Rant off!)

53 posted on 07/13/2003 1:35:48 PM PDT by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: only1percent
How can you seriously suggest that a certain percentage of population having a gay inclination is not natural?

Easy. Humans and other mammals reproduce how?

Humans willfully pervert their anatomical functions for pleasure or gratification. Many times this is hidden or masked (like an ancient Greek actor) out of their own guilt-ridden philosophical perspective. It shows they are really afraid to admit they enjoy, or have become enslaved, to their perversion(s).

It is an idol they have constructed for you to revere and obey so they don't have to admit they are perverts.

Any human population has a percentage aberrant behavior - - rapists, molestors, drunks, murderers, suicides, etc. Homosexuality is no different...

54 posted on 07/13/2003 1:35:52 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: DannyTN
"and virually,/b> all human societies"

I didn't intend that, I meant virtually, but virually does fit.

55 posted on 07/13/2003 1:37:57 PM PDT by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: apackof2
Bump for later reading.

Sadly they are succeeding too.

56 posted on 07/13/2003 1:47:28 PM PDT by nmh
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To: PurVirgo
Unconditional love means loving the person, not loving their sin. If you see a kid fixin' to run out in the street in front of a bus, are you going to try and stop them? If someone you love is doing something that you know will kill them, aren't you going to try and warn them? Shouldn't love also motivate us to warn those who are in danger of eternal separation from God? It may not be comfortable to think about, but there are people who are going to hell. Not because God wants them to but because it is the path they choose. We may all be created in the image of God and He loves us all and is not willing that any should perish, but He will not force us to obey Him. Neither can He lie and go against His own Word. God calls the practice of homosexuality an abomination. That is enough for me to base my opinion on. Shark infested waters do not make for safe swimming beaches, streets do not make safe playgrounds and people with infectious diseases are quarantined to protect public health. There is spiritual disease too, and homosexuality is a symptom of it and it can "infect" others who are exposed to it. We have a responsibility to protect the innnocent as much as we have a responsibility to warn the guilty.
"Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. (1 Corin. 6:9b-10)

57 posted on 07/13/2003 1:49:48 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: DannyTN
Actually the devil is even craftier than just denying the beliefs of the bible.

I've seen debates with so-called homosexual "christians" who claim to believe the bible is inerrant but reinterpret the commands against homosexuality as applying only to sex with temple prostitutes.

They come at you from all angles.
58 posted on 07/13/2003 1:50:59 PM PDT by lockeliberty
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To: sweetliberty
Amen!
59 posted on 07/13/2003 2:07:10 PM PDT by viaveritasvita
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To: sweetliberty
And amen!!
60 posted on 07/13/2003 2:07:43 PM PDT by viaveritasvita
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