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Ozzy Says He Now Believes Pot Leads To Other Addictions
MTV ^ | 07.08.2003 | Robert Mancini, with reporting by Gideon Yago

Posted on 07/08/2003 2:31:17 PM PDT by presidio9

Ozzy Osbourne may have weathered the lowest lows that drug addiction has to offer, but the news that his son Jack was seeking treatment for substance abuse taught him a lesson that his own decades of addiction never did.

"I used to think they should legalize pot, but you know what? They should ban the lot," Osbourne told MTV News, addressing Jack's battle for the first time. "One thing leads to another. Coffee leads to Red Bull, Red Bull leads to crank.

"When I found out the full depth of him getting into OxyContin, which is like hillbilly heroin, I was shocked and stunned," Osbourne continued. "The thing that's amazing was how rapidly he went from smoking pot to doing hillbilly heroin."

Ozzy's son entered a California rehabilitation facility in April to battle what was later revealed to be an addiction to the prescription painkiller OxyContin (see "Jack Osbourne Reveals He Was Addicted To Painkiller OxyContin"). Jack also said that he was drinking and using a variety of substances — including Vicodin, Valium, Xanax, Dilaudid, Lorcet, Lortab, Percocet and marijuana — before his trip to rehab (see "Rehab Helps Jack Osbourne Get To Root Of Addiction Problems").

Jack's laundry list of controlled substances made his father painfully aware of just how readily available drugs are. "When I started doing drugs years ago, they were hard to get, but today it's everywhere," Osbourne said. "It's not just America. It's not just California. It's not just Beverly Hills. It's not just downtown New York. It's not just London. It's all over the world" (see "All About OxyContin, The Pills Known As 'Killers' ").

This relatively easy access to allegedly "controlled" substances is especially hard for Ozzy to swallow given his firsthand experience with the damage that drugs can do.

"I'm 55 years old, and I didn't get off scot-free," Osbourne explained. "I have to take medication for the rest of my life because I've done so much neurological damage to my body," Osbourne said.

We'll have much more from our interviews with Ozzy and Jack in an "MTV News Now" special report, premiering Tuesday at 11 p.m. ET/PT (Jack's complete interview will appear on MTVNews.com when the show premieres). The show will be followed the next day by a repeat of MTV News' "True Life: I'm Hooked on OxyContin" at 6:30 p.m.


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To: presidio9
In your fantasy world...

In high school, it was easier to find someone who'd sell you pot than it was to get your hands on booze. With the booze, you need that fake ID stuff, but when you're dealing with a black market like pot, no one asks for ID. Or put another way -- I've been denied purchase of alcohol. I've never been denied purchase of pot.

So much for your fantasies.

1,381 posted on 07/10/2003 2:30:06 PM PDT by zoyd (My nameplate medallion says "Never Trust A HAL 9000")
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To: A CA Guy
If you promote "use", you are advocating evil.

Beer commercials are evil?

1,382 posted on 07/10/2003 2:31:22 PM PDT by zoyd (My nameplate medallion says "Never Trust A HAL 9000")
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To: RockyMtnMan
If drugs that are now illegal were made legal, you would greatly grow addiction and exasperate all the problems and costs of drug addiction on our society.

Give it up and go to Amsterdam or some other dammed place where they allow drugs and don't care if it ruins their country. I doubt we want to become socialized Europe any time soon RMM!
1,383 posted on 07/10/2003 2:33:35 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
I did answer, when you advocate evil as a regular practice of a right as in the vice drugs, you are promoting evil.

If you promote "use", you are advocating evil.

Kindly point out where MrLeRoy has either advocated use of illegal drugs or promoted the same.

1,384 posted on 07/10/2003 2:33:55 PM PDT by Pahuanui (when A Foolish Man Hears The tao, He Laughs Out Loud.)
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To: presidio9
This is how scrambled their brains are. They think that drug addicts make better employees. You can prove anything with statistics.

The journal SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN [4] cited a study of workers at two utility companies: Utah Power & Light and Georgia Power Company.

The JOURNAL OF GENERAL INTERNAL MEDICINE [5] published a study that found "no difference between drug-positive and drug-negative em- ployees."

Yeah, those stoners at Scientific American and Journal of Internal Medicine don't know what they are talking about, do they.

Sorry Sport, I'll take the word of established and respectable scientific and medical periodicals over that of you and your pal Axel any day.

1,385 posted on 07/10/2003 2:34:27 PM PDT by ActionNewsBill (Police state? What police state?)
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To: A CA Guy
If they were these fanatical constitionalists, then they should be all over FR if it was the politics and not the drugs that were the issue for them.

If you're going to talk about the Constitution, you should disclose your own constitutional philosophy, IMO

Didn't you write that laws passed by Congress should carry the force of a constitutional amendment because, otherwise, we would need thousands of amendments?

Please correct me if I am wrong on your position.

1,386 posted on 07/10/2003 2:35:09 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: MrLeRoy
I have, you want to dance around the issue.

When you support drug usage, you are supporting evil.

By using the book example, you are trying to water down both the responsibility you have in growing addiction and hoping to find acceptance for a misfit culture of losers.

It's a lose lose issue.
1,387 posted on 07/10/2003 2:37:15 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
The cost to the employer due to theft, mistakes, damage, lawsuits, accidents and violence in the workplace.

These all happen more with your pro-addiction stance

Already de-bunked in post 1317.

I could probably de-bunk the other baseless claims you made as well, but you get the idea.

1,388 posted on 07/10/2003 2:38:25 PM PDT by ActionNewsBill (Police state? What police state?)
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To: eyespysomething
Was he told to read it regularly as a part of their daily life and have they become dependent on Marxism?
1,389 posted on 07/10/2003 2:38:26 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Xenalyte
Apparently he's a Trekkie. That explains a lot, eh?

I stand by my assertion that he is a 13 year-old living at home.

This tidbit just reinforces my belief.

1,390 posted on 07/10/2003 2:41:09 PM PDT by ActionNewsBill (Police state? What police state?)
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To: A CA Guy
Please cite the constitutional authority of the federal government to wage war on drugs. Now what were you saying about socialized Europe?

Ohh and take a look at this fine report: Terror War Affecting Drug Seizures, Lawmaker Says

According to my calculations if we spent $40 billion for the WOD in 2000 then we spent $2,000,000 a junkie, what a deal!!.

1,391 posted on 07/10/2003 2:41:58 PM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: presidio9
Hey, I told him NOT to drop the soap. That's no endorsement.

Why don't you just be honest for once on this thread and admit that you belive anal rape in jail should be standard punishment for anyone thrown in jail for using/possessing marijuana?

1,392 posted on 07/10/2003 2:43:21 PM PDT by ActionNewsBill (Police state? What police state?)
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To: A CA Guy
If I support the right to read Marxist literature, am I "backing" Marxist literature?

I did answer,

No, you did not.

when you advocate evil as a regular practice of a right as in the vice drugs, you are promoting evil.

I am not asking about advocating the practice of a right.

If you promote "use", you are advocating evil.

I am not asking about promoting "use".

If you promote the reading of Marxist literature

I am not asking about promoting the reading of Marxist literature.

The question, again, which you STILL have NOT answered: If I support the right to read Marxist literature, am I "backing" Marxist literature?

1,393 posted on 07/10/2003 2:45:19 PM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: A CA Guy
Clifford A. Schaffer appears to only be some drug activists, how does that in any way give validity to that comment you made to me" He appears to be just another drug misfit!

Which of the two mentioned respectable periodicals does the gentleman write for?

1,394 posted on 07/10/2003 2:46:56 PM PDT by ActionNewsBill (Police state? What police state?)
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To: A CA Guy
When you support drug usage, you are supporting evil.

I do not support drug usage, I support the relegalization of drug usage---just as I do not support reading Marxist literature, I support the continued legality of reading Marxist literature.

1,395 posted on 07/10/2003 2:47:28 PM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: A CA Guy
I heard you the first time....are you drunk?

BTW, I'd appreciate your list of heroin main-lining FReepers, when you get the chance.

1,396 posted on 07/10/2003 2:48:51 PM PDT by ActionNewsBill (Police state? What police state?)
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To: eyespysomething
"personal freedoms" can be a reasonable thing or highly unreasonable thing based on what those words mean to you.

For society, it mostly means what you want freedom but realize there are limitations because we live with neighbors.

For others it means they think they should have the right to be drugged, nude in the back yard howling to the moon and chasing your dog if full view of their neighbors. It can be total anarchy if taken to far.

I am glad if you have balance as to where you post.
1,397 posted on 07/10/2003 2:49:32 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: ActionNewsBill
How so, by sourcing a drug activist? How did that strengthen your position?
1,398 posted on 07/10/2003 2:51:05 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
If they were these fanatical constitionalists, then they should be all over FR if it was the politics and not the drugs that were the issue for them.

You must have missed most of the same names on some of the AWB sunset threads.

But of course, you being from California and all that, you must be in favor of continuing the Assault Weapons Ban.

After all, GW is for extending the ban, so it must be the right thing to do.

1,399 posted on 07/10/2003 2:52:45 PM PDT by ActionNewsBill (Police state? What police state?)
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To: MrLeRoy
This reminds me of a "does legalization = validation?" question I couldn't get an answer to on a prior thread.

Many discussions with the pro WOD side are not so much reasoned debate, but a game of dodge ball.

1,400 posted on 07/10/2003 2:53:13 PM PDT by Ken H
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