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MSNBC fires Savage after anti-gay remarks
Associated Press ^ | Jul. 7, 2003 01:00 PM

Posted on 07/07/2003 1:11:21 PM PDT by sakic

Edited on 05/07/2004 5:21:27 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

NEW YORK - MSNBC on Monday fired Michael Savage for anti-gay comments.

The popular radio talk show host who did a weekend TV show for the cable channel referred to an unidentified caller to his show Saturday as a "sodomite" and said he should "get AIDS and die."


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To: sinkspur
Yes, he's absolutely pathetic for apologizing. And if you're listening carefully you can tell he's reading a pre-written statment...probably vetted by his radio network's lawyers.

He's being forced to apologize and you can hear it. The network obviously came to him and said, "Michael, you have to apologize...read this statement...blah, blah, blah" because of the risk to advertisers on his radio show too.

Doesn't make it any less pathetic that he has to do it, and that he is doing it.

461 posted on 07/07/2003 5:17:11 PM PDT by Im Your Huckleberry
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To: John H K
You go on defending Bill Mahr and I'll continue suporting Mike Savage.

See there? We can agree.

462 posted on 07/07/2003 5:17:23 PM PDT by Bullish
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To: sakic
It was only a matter of time till Savage shot himself in the foot. Good riddance. He's an embarrassment to the conservative cause and leaves us wide open to blanket criticism, undeserved or not.

I love plain talk myself, but he went over the edge.

The most effective political strategery to neutralize the enemy calls for deft use of the stilletto, not the sledge hammer.

Leni

463 posted on 07/07/2003 5:18:09 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Im Your Huckleberry
This thread is frightening if it's representative of how many whiney, nervous, hand-wringers are out there on "our" side. It's embarrassing, and more than a little pathetic.

Oh, brother.

LOL!!!

464 posted on 07/07/2003 5:18:17 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Jorge
Others have made more insensitive comments and still get airtime. We'll see.

I do believe that Michael Savage will face a harder time getting positive press for the next few years because of the double standard that exists.

465 posted on 07/07/2003 5:18:52 PM PDT by weegee
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To: Im Your Huckleberry
What was he offering his daugthers to them for?

It was tradition to protect the visitors, especially those sent by God, at any cost. He was willing to offer his daughters to protect the angels of God from the sodomites. They wanted to rape the male angels, because they found their bodies beautiful.

466 posted on 07/07/2003 5:20:11 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Anti-American liberals are inbread Notsosmartso's.)
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To: sinkspur; Im Your Huckleberry

Supposedly, Dr. Savage is now a "weenie whiney hand-wringer." And look at how Hucklberry seems to dote over Yogi!


467 posted on 07/07/2003 5:20:24 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: John H K
Cowardice and bravery are relative terms, and I think that Mahr, rather, was being stupid to think that anyone would so narrowly define coward so as the actions of the terrorist could somehow be seen as brave simply because they stayed with the bomb rather than running away? (But then again, maybe he knows you). I reiterate that someone who would use the deaths of innocent men, women and children to further their dastardly cause IS a coward. They hide behind their lies, deceit and everything dishonorable.
468 posted on 07/07/2003 5:20:27 PM PDT by visualops (HAM AND EGGS: a day's work for a chicken; a lifetime commitment for a pig.)
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To: Cultural Jihad
I think Savage has two masters degrees and one doctorate, but I may be wrong. I know he has a masters in nutrition and a doctorate in epidemiology, and I assume he probably has a masters in epidemiology as well.
469 posted on 07/07/2003 5:20:58 PM PDT by LanPB01
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To: concerned about politics
It's pretty sad when someone who considers herself fairly conservative and someone else on CNN comes to the same conclusion, isn't it?

470 posted on 07/07/2003 5:21:05 PM PDT by ladylib
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To: Lurking Libertarian
That is a good point.

I think I'm just picking up on a vibe that it is ok for some to say things....yet not others.

Like...Trent Lott.
471 posted on 07/07/2003 5:22:06 PM PDT by Calpernia (Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for others; Responsibility for all your actions.)
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To: Cultural Jihad
He should be working in a lab somewhere.
472 posted on 07/07/2003 5:22:10 PM PDT by ladylib
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To: freebilly
Savage is one of the loudest, angriest, most articulate voices for the conservative (not RINO Republican) movement, when he's at his best. Sure he stumbles sometimes, he has a New York accent, and probably a slew of other flaws.

But I have also heard him, consistently, go on tears against the left...absolute verbal rampages...that are some of the most straight-to-the-heart, poginant, deliciously vicious, articulate, intelligent screeds I've ever heard this side of recent Dennis Miller material.

Savage is a needed, angry, voice for the conservative movement, one of the only voices who will talk about the havoc illegal immigration is wreaking on our country. He gives it to the left the same way we've been getting it from them for decades.

And people like yourself want him silenced. You're calling yourselves conservatives and yet you are gleeful he's been yanked. Most of you are gloating over the fact that his show was canceled. All because you think he's too "loud" or "too mean".

I find that embarrassing.

473 posted on 07/07/2003 5:22:57 PM PDT by Im Your Huckleberry
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To: freebilly
wishing for their death in front of a national audience.

Savage has already explained he thought he was off the air.
474 posted on 07/07/2003 5:23:35 PM PDT by visualops (HAM AND EGGS: a day's work for a chicken; a lifetime commitment for a pig.)
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To: Bullish
here's a great article for the cowardly conservatives who won't support their own. i think the sissy-wimps need to read this and reflect about how this nation is just being steam-rolled by liberalism because of their weakness.

I was done listening to savage until i heard these recent events. now, i support him even more.


here's the column for the new-age ostriches, the cowards who claim to be conservatives, the liars...


Land of the fearful, home of the craven



Posted: July 7, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern



By Vox Day





© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

According to the New York Post, all New York City is abuzz with the failure of the latest Kennedy marital experiment. And when a married woman blows off her commitments to her husband and her children in favor of an affair with a married man, who is to blame? According to many people, not her, but the aggrieved husband, who refuses to hold a dignified silence that would allow everyone to quietly pretend nothing has happened until the whole mess fades away.

This attitude has somehow become the norm in America today in matters both public and private. Subjects once debated openly on the floors of Congress are now whispered only behind closed doors.

America is afraid. Most of her citizens may not realize it yet, but somehow, they have taken to heart the old Japanese dictum, the nail that sticks up gets hammered down. This is not the motto of a free people, it is a slogan of slaves.

In today's America, the media will not discuss the fraudulent federal income tax nor the peculiar jurisdiction of the IRS, because journalists are afraid to be audited. Lawyers do not protest how judges regularly ignore the law as it is written in favor of so-called precedent, nor do they speak up in court when a judge blatantly flouts the centuries-old right of the jury to decide on both the justice of the law and its application, because they are afraid of being disciplined before the bar.

Even the few members of the judiciary who are not corrupt are afraid – some have even articulated their fear of judging as directed by the law – because they fear the tumult and unrest that might well explode amidst a people who suddenly realize they have been cheated and defrauded for four generations.

Ask any tax accountant, any tax lawyer or even your neighbor where in the legal code it is written that a natural-born citizen of any state in the United States must pay federal income tax. They won't be able to tell you, because no such law exists. And yet, they play along with the charade on mere hearsay, because at heart, they are terrified that the evil eye of government will be turned in their direction.

This spirit of fear is not limited to taxation. Investors and economists write of the free market, but what American market is free? Certainly not the money market, where short-term rates are directly controlled by the quasi-governmental Federal Reserve, which openly threatens to manipulate the long-term rates as well. In the stock market, there are whispers too, most recently of a timely 5,000 contract order placed by Goldman Sachs last week at the behest of the Working Group to stop the market fall last Tuesday. But no one at the Wall Street Journal, CNBC or Fox News will ever mention this, not unless they wish to conclude their career in the financial media.

Conservatives are afraid to mention their deep concerns regarding the president and his incessant caving to Democratic pressure lest they be seen as lending support to their enemies. But what is the use of having a Republican in office if he has nothing to offer but tepid Democratism? Seven of the nine Supreme Court justices who authored the recent decisions so unpopular with conservatives were nominated by Republicans, after all.

Christians are afraid to speak of their faith for fear they will be accused of intolerance or bigotry. Never mind, of course, that Jesus said that the world would hate his followers just as it hated Him. And so they sit in their dwindling pews and watch, mute and helpless, as the moral foundation upon which the nation was constructed is slowly, carefully dismantled.

Even left-liberal America is afraid. They are afraid to speak the truths they know, lest their particular interest group lose influence. Feminists are afraid to denounce a serial harasser and rapist, homosexuals are afraid to admit the dangerous reality of their sexual practices, teachers are afraid to admit that the public schools are a massive failure and politicians of both parties are afraid to admit their desire to raise taxes and spend like a stripper with a stolen credit card.

America – all of America – is living a lie. We are no longer the land of the free, we are the land of the fat, feckless and fearful. We are no longer the home of the brave, we are the home of the comfortable, the cowardly and the craven.







Vox Day is a novelist and Christian libertarian. He is a member of the SFWA, Mensa and the Southern Baptist Convention. He has been down with Madden since 1992.
475 posted on 07/07/2003 5:23:36 PM PDT by 666beast
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To: Im Your Huckleberry
On the contrary, if you find him "odious", I find that to be very sad.

Maybe you would be more pleased with me if I shrieked insults at you and said I hoped you die from some horrible disease?

Perhaps you need a good dose of the same warped hatred you are defending...directed at you or someone you love...and then you can tells if you find it "odius" or not.

There is no excuse for this sort of sick and inflammatory rhetoric. Savage deserved to be fired.

476 posted on 07/07/2003 5:23:46 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: sinkspur
I don't see why he shouldn't apologize for making the comment, it was rude.

He sank down to the caller's level. The caller will probably not call into Michael's radio show and apologize for upsetting him so (or provoking the response that got him fired).

That's what it means to be in the public arena (especially as a call-in host); have to have a thick skin to shield against personal insults.

477 posted on 07/07/2003 5:23:51 PM PDT by weegee
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To: John H K
Bill Mahr was canned from "Politically Incorrect" for a comment that was not only not offensive, it was true.

Hm. I've sometimes wondered where you were coming from. Now I see.

478 posted on 07/07/2003 5:23:53 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
I thought it was just me. I've noticed an awful LOT of names I don't recognize recently. BUT, I'm still new here too.
479 posted on 07/07/2003 5:25:08 PM PDT by Calpernia (Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for others; Responsibility for all your actions.)
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To: Cultural Jihad
Oh, I'm laughing myself silly.

Where's your timidity and Christianity now?

Such meanness, eh?

What a hypocrite.

480 posted on 07/07/2003 5:25:08 PM PDT by Im Your Huckleberry
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