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(Dale Earnhardt) Jr's Busch Crew Cheated, NASCAR Looked Away, I Saw It All
Inside the PitBox.com ^ | 7/7/03 | Rob Faiella

Posted on 07/07/2003 11:07:39 AM PDT by Wolfstar

Well, it's about that time of the year for me to write one of those articles that gets me in trouble. I don't try to do this, but sometimes it just happens. If you have read my stuff before you know that I write what I see and I hold nothing back.

Dale Earnhardt Jr's dominance in the Busch series continued this weekend. He led wire to wire and took the win at Daytona.

Anytime Dale Jr wins, the conspiracy theorists come out in full form and make up the craziest stories as to how NASCAR let Dale get away with it and how they favor him. I am always one to say that the rules are the rules and NASCAR can not fix the outcome of a race.

I still believe that.

However, I saw something on Friday that shocked me. Not only did Jr's crew do something so blatantly obvious during inspection, but the NASCAR officials let it go, and to top it off they laughed and joked about it.

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This weekend I was at Daytona with garage/pit credentials courtesy of NASCAR. After this, it'll probably be the last time.

Inspection finally opened up prior to the race and the cars were sent thru a maze in the garage area consisting of about 5 or 6 different areas that the teams pushed the cars thru. One checked body templates, one checked under the cars, one checked the weight, etc. I found it odd that they would move the cars to several different locations to accomplish this, but a NASCAR official escorted each car from station to station to ensure that no one did anything illegal.

When Dale Jr's car was going thru the station that checks the roof height and the valance heights and others, I walked over to that station and snapped off a couple pictures...

[SNIP]

Jr's team pushed the car up on the scales.

The NASCAR officials were having the teams disconnect and reconnect the sway bar at the scales. So, the 8 team, as others, lifted the hood and went to work on the sway bar. Then it happened.

One of Jr's crew members walked over to the passenger side and while the inspectors were looking at the computer to see the numbers and the other one was watching the guy wrenching on the sway bar, the crew member grabbed the hood in the area where it goes over the right front tire and bent it severely upward away from the fender. I sat there for a second thinking, "Why did he do that?"

Then the officials told them to close the hood and move on to the next station, they had passed this portion of inspection. At this point the same crew member closed the hood and now it didn’t fit with the fender anymore. So what did he do? He grabbed the fender and yanked it up at least an inch and a half to meet the newly shaped hood. As he yanked it up, the rest of the fender, above the tire twisted and contorted to this new shape. He closed the hood and it still wasn’t right, so he opened it and adjusted the fender some more until he got it where he wanted it. Then he closed the hood.

This was a major modification to the shape of the fender at a place where the templates are checked very closely.

To make it worse, there were 3 NASCAR inspectors watching this. One Winston Cup inspector and 2 Busch series officials.

They looked at each other and one said to Jr's guys, "That was a major adjustment there guys, I think you need to go back thru the templates."

I thought, "Ok, they are going to do the right thing."

Then they all laughed. The crew guy said, "OH, they never check that anyways." And they laughed some more. The main inspector looked at the obviously tweaked fender and shook his head and said, "I knew we couldn't trust you guys." And they all laughed again.

They pushed the car over to the next station and that was the end of it.

How could these officials let this team make such a blatant adjustment to a critical part of the car and not make them go back thru the templates?

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Now, I am sure all the Jr fans will write in and tell me that I am jealous of Jr or that I need to get a life. But I want you to seriously consider what happened. The rules specifically state that no adjustments can be made to the body of the car after it goes thru the templates or else you must go thru the templates again. A major reshaping of this fender was done and the officials just laughed it off.

I watched several other teams get sent back thru the templates and other stations for far less minor infractions.

Jr fan or not, a rule is rule and it must be enforced evenly. I place the blame here on the NASCAR officials and not on Jr's team. They did what they had to do and they got away with it. The officials did not do their job properly. I personally would like to see an investigation into this and find out why it was allowed. I have the names of all 3 NASCAR officials if anybody wants them. And, I actually had one person say that post race inspection would have found the infraction if there was one. They do not template the car in post race inspection. The cars bump each other during the race.

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If you look at the...photos you can see...the area where the fender was adjusted.

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To: DJ88
Congratulations DJ. Sounds like Bristol will be a blast! I'm jealous...
221 posted on 07/08/2003 6:53:48 PM PDT by Hatteras (The Thundering Herd Of Turtles ROCK!)
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To: Wolfstar
Give it up, #3Fan.

Give what up, you were proven wrong.

It's over, but I'll not soon forget the depth of your mindless hatred.

I'm not the one on a 6 month campaign of lies, you are.

You do no credit to the #3 you profess to admire so passionately.

Admire so passionately? A fan, yes, but I don't know about a passionate admirer. You can't keep anything in perspective.

A fool, perhaps. Perhaps I am. But not for the reason you think. Rather for spending any of my precious time on this earth trying to reason with the likes of you.

What reasoning? You have shown no reasoning at all, just blind belief of obvious lies. If you employed any reasoning, you wouldn't go on these conspiracy binges. Rather, you'd respect good people enough not to spread malicious gossip about them with absolutely no proof.

If this were just a one time misjudgment on your part I wouldn't defend good people against your lies so vehemently. But this has been an all-year deal with you. From February to last week to the last couple of days, nothing but bull has been in your posts.

222 posted on 07/08/2003 7:50:16 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
Six-month campaign of lies...

What the heck are you smoking? I've let this particular venomous claim of yours go for too long. I did a search for NASCAR-related posts and found over 70, going back one year to 6/30/02. Assuming that the search engine retains my user-specified 'followed' and 'unfollowed' link colors, I read exactly TWO of those threads.

I wouldn't doubt that somewhere, on some thread, among the hundreds upon hundreds out there, you might find other comments from me about a NASCAR-related topic. I told you, I very rarely participate on NASCAR-related threads on FR, which isn't to say I never do.

But a 6-month campaign of lies?

YOU WROTE: If this were just a one time misjudgment on your part I wouldn't defend good people against your lies so vehemently. But this has been an all-year deal with you. From February to last week to the last couple of days, nothing but bull has been in your posts.

But ah, yes, I finally found that post in February that you've been stewing about. Me, I had forgotten about it, but man, you are one peculiar individual for holding on to a grudge against some stranger who exchanged a couple of posts with you several months ago.

So let me get this straight: I post comments you take exception to on exactly TWO threads spread over a four-month period, and that, to you, becomes a "6-month campaign of lies" from which you feel the need to protect all those good people out there. Boy oh boy. Now I understand what the deal is with you.

223 posted on 07/08/2003 9:46:55 PM PDT by Wolfstar (If we don't re-elect GWB — a truly great President — we're NUTS!)
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To: DJ88
Hold back a little. I think she is a troll and I'd love to figure out a way to get interviewed by her, live. You'd see some button pushing going down. Like Katie, it wouldn't be pretty.
224 posted on 07/09/2003 4:39:54 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Read Buddy's, (the labrador retriever), new book about the Clintons, "Living Hell")
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To: DJ88
DJ, I expect a full report of the events in Bristol due the Monday morning after. Pictures would be nice too.

BTW, I recall on an occasion seeing the 3 Dales (Sr., Jr. and DJ) heading for the exits after a race in the same golfcart. I suspect they were late for some hunting or something. And as I understand it, Jr. looked to DJ for some comfort and guidence after his dad passed on. They do have some sort of relationship/friendship.

Have fun!

225 posted on 07/09/2003 5:08:19 AM PDT by Hatteras (The Thundering Herd Of Turtles ROCK!)
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To: Analogman
You hered raght.
227 posted on 07/09/2003 5:49:07 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (If I can support FR with two kids in college, you can too. Freedom aint free but you can charge it.)
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To: DJ88
Um....I did mention that I was a Dale Jarrett fan. He said Jr. was too. *grins*

What an incredible investigative effort - good work! I must admit, I'm quite nascar naive. I just started watching races as my son is a Junior fan. All along I've been reading your screen name to mean Dale Jr. - like him so much, you wrote his number twice. LOL, who'da thunk it, Dale Jarrett is 88! I'm still giggling at myself.

228 posted on 07/09/2003 11:05:45 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Sir Gawain
How much money do they spend on those cars, only to use brute force for that final precision tweak?
229 posted on 07/09/2003 11:17:05 AM PDT by ampat
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To: Wolfstar
tweaking the fender in the area shown in the photo would increase down force on the right front,allowing better handing in the turns, and reduce drag over the right side roof line, that would increase straight line speed.
I dare anyone to challenge this.
230 posted on 07/09/2003 11:22:15 AM PDT by watermen
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To: DJ88
It almost was a 1-car race thanks to Sprague.
231 posted on 07/09/2003 11:31:25 AM PDT by steveegg (Close only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, air-burst artillery and thermonuclear weapons)
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To: watermen
Thank you, Watermen. Despite all the thunder and fury on this thread, the incident the article's author described did happen, according to the information DJ88 obtained in contacting DEI. I most definitely am not qualified to know if that tweaking was legal or illegal under NASCAR rules, which are mysterious at the best of times. Whether or not it was legal, though, the crewman tweaked that area for a reason. Your description of the likely effect seems logical to me.
232 posted on 07/09/2003 11:43:51 AM PDT by Wolfstar (If we don't re-elect GWB — a truly great President — we're NUTS!)
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To: DJ88
Outstanding, you lucky dog :-)

Enjoy Bristol; you definitely earned it.

233 posted on 07/09/2003 11:45:46 AM PDT by steveegg (Close only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, air-burst artillery and thermonuclear weapons)
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To: Wolfstar
"..then it calls the integrity of the entire sport into question."

Sport? R U $hitting me? Car racing is a SPORT? Next thing you know, you all will be calling the drivers "athletes".....

Love the crash scenes though.....

234 posted on 07/09/2003 12:16:57 PM PDT by Mr_Peter
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To: Mr_Peter
Actually, the question of whether or not it's a sport is one I wrestle with sometimes. Take the NASCAR method of picking a year-end champion. Now I was always taught that the object of a sport is to win the game/race/event. But in the NASCAR world, the object isn't to win as much as it is to be "consistent." Sure, winning is fun. You get to celebrate in the winner's circle and take home the biggest check. But you could win many more races than anyone else in a given season, and still lose the year-end championship to a guy who didn't win a single race, yet had consistent top 5 or top 10 finishes and no DNF's.

I also am curious about the question of whether or not NASCAR is the WWF on wheels or an honest sport — ummm..."sport." That's why articles on cheating in NASCAR pique my interest.

235 posted on 07/09/2003 12:39:01 PM PDT by Wolfstar (If we don't re-elect GWB — a truly great President — we're NUTS!)
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To: Wolfstar
What the heck are you smoking? I've let this particular venomous claim of yours go for too long. I did a search for NASCAR-related posts and found over 70, going back one year to 6/30/02. Assuming that the search engine retains my user-specified 'followed' and 'unfollowed' link colors, I read exactly TWO of those threads. I wouldn't doubt that somewhere, on some thread, among the hundreds upon hundreds out there, you might find other comments from me about a NASCAR-related topic. I told you, I very rarely participate on NASCAR-related threads on FR, which isn't to say I never do. But a 6-month campaign of lies?

Yep. In February your theory was that Nascar let Dale Jr run with a bigger restrictor. A lie with no shred of evidence. Now you print the lies of an author that, obvious to anyone with common sense, was lying. Both accuse various people of cheating. July - February = 6 months. In between you say that the only thing he's done is be named "Earnhardt"...another lie. He's won two Busch titles, won in his twelth start and won the Winston as a rookie.

YOU WROTE: If this were just a one time misjudgment on your part I wouldn't defend good people against your lies so vehemently. But this has been an all-year deal with you. From February to last week to the last couple of days, nothing but bull has been in your posts. But ah, yes, I finally found that post in February that you've been stewing about. Me, I had forgotten about it,... but man, you are one peculiar individual for holding on to a grudge against some stranger who exchanged a couple of posts with you several months ago.

Not holding a grudge...simply remembering an idiot whjen he makes as big a fool of himself as you did in February. That was a major lie you were telling.

So let me get this straight: I post comments you take exception to on exactly TWO threads spread over a four-month period, and that, to you, becomes a "6-month campaign of lies" from which you feel the need to protect all those good people out there. Boy oh boy. Now I understand what the deal is with you.

This is a symptom of one of the great evils of modern society...people accuse the worst things against people in public with no evidence and therefore no sense of morality. It's wrong to go around and accuse good people of these kinds of things...very wrong. And it goes on with every walk of life, from lies against the president, to Nascar, to Joe Sixpack down the street. That's what I said earlier, that's it's hard to publically like anything anymore, because of immoral people like you that don't have the decency to try to be truthful about things.

236 posted on 07/09/2003 5:58:28 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: Quilla; DJ88
All along I've been reading your screen name to mean Dale Jr. - like him so much, you wrote his number twice.

LOL, I never thought of that.

237 posted on 07/09/2003 6:01:14 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: Wolfstar
Thank you, Watermen. Despite all the thunder and fury on this thread, the incident the article's author described did happen, according to the information DJ88 obtained in contacting DEI. I most definitely am not qualified to know if that tweaking was legal or illegal under NASCAR rules, which are mysterious at the best of times. Whether or not it was legal, though, the crewman tweaked that area for a reason. Your description of the likely effect seems logical to me.

Have you not learned anything? The tweaking is a common occurance in tech inspection. The author knew that but printed this knowing gullible people like you would believe it wasn't a common occurance. And I'll say again that if you believe the fender was moved an inch and a half above the fender, you don't know Nascar.

238 posted on 07/09/2003 6:04:51 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
...above the hood..., obviously.
239 posted on 07/09/2003 6:05:37 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: Wolfstar
I also am curious about the question of whether or not NASCAR is the WWF on wheels or an honest sport — ummm..."sport." That's why articles on cheating in NASCAR pique my interest.

No, they pique your interest because you're the type that enjoys falsely accusing others, as you've shown over and over.

240 posted on 07/09/2003 6:07:45 PM PDT by #3Fan
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