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Hollywood's Missing Movies - Why American films have ignored life under communism
Reason Online ^ | June 2000 | Kenneth Lloyd Billingsley

Posted on 07/02/2003 12:25:28 PM PDT by Stultis

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This has been posted before, in fact no less than four times (links below), but all those threads are in the older format and locked to replies. I thought this might be worthy of renewed discussion in light of Ann Coulter's recent book, Treason.

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Hollywood's Missing Movies (DATED BUT RELEVANT) ^
      Posted by Chi-townChief
On 03/22/2001 6:55 PM CST with 16 comments


REASON ON-LINE ^ | June 2000 | Kenneth Lloyd Billingsley
Why American films have ignored life under communism. Every so often someone in Hollywood uses his power to break the movie colony's rules. Consider this year's Total Eclipse. Odd as it may seem, this is the first serious American film set against the background of the 1939 Nazi-Soviet Pact, the deal that allied Europe's two totalitarian powers against the West and helped plunge the world into war. With an ally on the eastern front, Hitler sent his Panzers west while Stalin helped himself to the Baltic states and invaded Finland. A film like this could easily have turned out as ...
     
 
Hollywood's Missing Movies: Why American films have ignored life under communism ^
      Posted by coydog
On 06/08/2000 2:11 PM CDT with 8 comments


Reason ^ | June 2000 | Kenneth Lloyd Billingsley
REASON * June 2000 Hollywood's Missing Movies Why American films have ignored life under communism. By Kenneth Lloyd Billingsley Every so often someone in Hollywood uses his power to break the movie colony's rules. Consider this year's Total Eclipse. Odd as it may seem, this is the first serious American film set against the background of the 1939 Nazi-Soviet Pact, the deal that allied Europe's two totalitarian powers against the West and helped plunge the world into war. With an ally on the eastern front, Hitler sent his Panzers west while Stalin helped himself to the Baltic states and invaded ...
     
 
Hollywood's Missing Movies ^
      Posted by Senator Pardek
On 06/08/2000 1:08 PM CDT with 12 comments


Reasonmag.com ^ | June 2000 | Kenneth Lloyd Billingsley
Hollywood's Missing Movies Why American films have ignored life under communism. By Kenneth Lloyd Billingsley Every so often someone in Hollywood uses his power to break the movie colony's rules. Consider this year's Total Eclipse. Odd as it may seem, this is the first serious American film set against the background of the 1939 Nazi-Soviet Pact, the deal that allied Europe's two totalitarian powers against the West and helped plunge the world into war. With an ally on the eastern front, Hitler sent his Panzers west while Stalin helped himself to the Baltic states and invaded Finland. A film like ...
     
 
Hollywood's Missing Movies -- Why American films have ignored life under communism. ^
      Posted by harry palmer
On 05/19/2000 9:30 PM CDT with 13 comments


Reason Magazine ^ | June 2000 | Kenneth Lloyd Billingsley
Every so often someone in Hollywood uses his power to break the movie colony's rules. Consider this year's Total Eclipse. Odd as it may seem, this is the first serious American film set against the background of the 1939 Nazi-Soviet Pact, the deal that allied Europe's two totalitarian powers against the West and helped plunge the world into war. With an ally on the eastern front, Hitler sent his Panzers west while Stalin helped himself to the Baltic states and invaded Finland. A film like this could easily have turned out as big a didactic dud as the Rev. Sun ...

1 posted on 07/02/2003 12:25:28 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: Stultis
BUMP for later.

This looks really interesting.
2 posted on 07/02/2003 12:46:37 PM PDT by EggsAckley ( "Aspire to mediocracy"................new motto for publik skools.............)
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To: Stultis
Lloyd Billingsley is always worth repeating.
3 posted on 07/02/2003 12:47:41 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Stultis
Thanks for the repost, I haven't read this before and it is quite interesting. Slowly, but surely the truth begins to come out.

The article makes a great point.
4 posted on 07/02/2003 12:50:51 PM PDT by TheDon ( It is as difficult to provoke the United States as it is to survive its eventual and tardy response)
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To: Stultis
Audiences would likely be similarly surprised by cinematic treatments of... the Khmer Rouge genocide,

Unless they went to see The Killing Fields

All quibbling aside they make an excellent point. It took the Italian Fascists to produce the best anti-communist film ever (We the Living), not realizing that it was an equally powerful anti-fascist film.

5 posted on 07/02/2003 12:51:49 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Everyone knows you can't have a successful conspiracy without a Rockefeller)
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To: Stultis; MEG33; HISSKGB
the Soviets hand over a number of German Communists, Jews who had taken refuge in Moscow, to the Gestapo . . .that incident too is taken from the historical record.

Must have been vocal supporters of Zinoviev, Radek and Trotsky. Stalin's usual MO was to place them in the Secret Police of the occupied countries--both before 1941 and after 1945.

6 posted on 07/02/2003 12:52:12 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: Stultis
Out of curiosity, I looked up Mission to Moscow on Amazon the other day. It seems not to be available.
7 posted on 07/02/2003 12:53:59 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: Stultis
Certainly worth a bump.
8 posted on 07/02/2003 12:57:56 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Everything good that I have done, I have done at the command of my voices.)
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To: Squawk 8888
Audiences would likely be similarly surprised by cinematic treatments of... the Khmer Rouge genocide,

Unless they went to see The Killing Fields

Elsewhere in the article the points are made (correctly, if too much in passing) that The Killing Fields, #1 didn't show the actual attrocities committed by the communists, and #2 that the movie's spin was to pretty much blame it all on Nixon anyway. IOW the author takes the position (and I agree) that this didn't qualify as an anti-communist movie.

9 posted on 07/02/2003 1:07:25 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: EggsAckley
In addition to the main thesis, there are some good points in here too (at least I presume they are, not being intimately familiar with the relevant history) that HUAC mishandled their investigation of Hollywood in certain respects: failing to grasp the importance of the fight over control of unions, focusing on movies that were made and pretty much ignoring the issue of those that weren't made, and alienating the moguls and studio heads (who could have been incorporated as allies).
10 posted on 07/02/2003 1:16:41 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: Stultis
This movie certainly didn't make much of a splash. And SPIELBERG directed it? Linda Hunt??? as Lillian Hellman? Was Hellman that short?
11 posted on 07/02/2003 1:19:40 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Stultis
And how about Homage to Catalonia by George Orwell, regarding the Spanish Civil War, where so much of the Left cut its teeth?
12 posted on 07/02/2003 1:19:40 PM PDT by Chairman Fred (@mousiedung.commie)
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To: Stultis
Oh. I get it. It never existed. Still--Linda Hunt as Lillian Hellman????????????
13 posted on 07/02/2003 1:21:15 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Stultis
I agree....we have been innudated with Shoah and Slavery/Jim Crow movies but hardly anything aside from Killing Fields and a few Asian made flicks or some bios on Stalin (or REDS..an homage).

Why not a serious looksee at collectivism?

Hell...I know why.
14 posted on 07/02/2003 1:22:45 PM PDT by wardaddy (DIVERSITY IS BEST SERVED EARNED)
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To: Stultis
"There was never an organized, articulate, and effective liberal or left-wing opposition to the communists in Hollywood," concluded John Cogley
This begs the question, has there been in modern times an organized, articulate, and effective liberal or left-wing opposition to the communists in the Democrat party?
15 posted on 07/02/2003 1:26:11 PM PDT by William McKinley (My new blog that no one cares about can be found at http://williammckinley.blogspot.com)
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To: Stultis
How about "The Gulag" and the made-for-TV "Amerika" that so outraged the libs 10 or 15 years ago?

Adolf Hitler = 6 to 9 million killed
American abortionists = 45 million and counting
Joe Stalin = over 100 million

Our abortuaries are catching up! Something to think about during our celebration of our "right to LIFE, liberty, and pursuit of happiness."
16 posted on 07/02/2003 1:37:15 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: Stultis
Anyone catch this?

Katharine Hepburn stumped for the CSU, reading speeches written by Dalton Trumbo, while Ronald Reagan, then a liberal Democrat, headed the anti-communists in the talent guilds.

And she has been lauded quite highly right here on FR this past week.

Perhaps Ann Coulter's book will invigorate a good debate on the Hollywood issue over the next month. I hope so.

17 posted on 07/02/2003 1:43:23 PM PDT by what's up
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To: what's up
Carol Channing explains everything:
It never occurred to me there was anything un-American about forming a labor union. I still don't see that there is. Do you? Equity, SAG, and AGVA are surely sustaining me now, and they were never Communists. Ronald Reagan was president of SAG for years, and you know to him Russia was the Evil Empire, so he wasn't either a Communist...or a card holder...or anything...and we love him. . .
Just Lucky I Guess: A Memoir of Sorts

18 posted on 07/02/2003 1:51:48 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: TheDon
Slowly, but surely the truth begins to come out.

The following is a resource thread. Go here for many links and more info:

Tailgunner Joe--Where Have You Gone, Joe McCarthy?

19 posted on 07/02/2003 1:57:48 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: Stultis
Ann Coulter gives credit in her new book "Treason" to an author (forget name) who gave her much information on Joe McCarthy. The author will be writing a larger book on Tailgunner Joe and his fight against the communists soon.

I've read "Hollywood Party" a while back. Everyone should read this as a guide on the tactics the communists used to gain control of the Screen Writers guild and other groups. They were quite ingenious, actually.

20 posted on 07/02/2003 2:07:42 PM PDT by narby (I love the smell of Liberal fear in the morning...)
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