U.S. Develops Urban Surveillance System

Associated Press ^ | Jul 01, 2003 | MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN

[optimistically_conservative]

My friend, a person would have categorized and filed you GEEK after Day 6.

What's funny is it is the silicon based, electronic intelligence that never tires of cataloging such repitition.

"It is inevitable."

[spodefly]

"As you can see, we have been keeping our eyes on you for some time now, Mr. Spodefly. And frankly, we are bored $hitless."

[optimistically_conservative]

"Well, at least you're cute..."

[M. Peach]

"More likely to be used by divorce attorneys, targeted investigations on political enemies, the ever expanding War On Drugs, traffic violators, and any other subject where the government could find a return on its investment in terms of cash and control."

Of course - a very astute observation.

[Korth]

With such a system in place, everyone who visits a gun store or shooting range could be automatically registered as a known gun owner (even if they are only browsing in the store or shooting with a friend's guns), thus bringing about a rapid and nearly complete nationwide gun owner registration without having to get anyone to fill out any forms.

[M. Peach]

I like what you say - intelligent minds think alike -

"What happens when there is the likely public/private cooperation in that some private company fronts the money to install these cameras, look for "crimes" then sends you fines and does this all on a commission? "

Did you know that here in the Palm Springs area the cameras at traffic lights who give tickets to speeders are privately owned and they receive a percentage of the fines they generate?

[M. Peach]

I find the loss of our freedom and liberties inevitible. The more terrorists attack us - the more liberties we will lose in the name of security. Every time we plug a loophole - another one opens somewhere else by terrorists or "enemies of the state" until we are totally monitored - 24/7.

My opinon is that two situations are inevitable. Either someone or some country destroys everything living or human on earth - or governments will have total control and authority over all of us.

What is your opinion?

[Blood of Tyrants]

Lincoln proved that the 10th means what the federal government says.

[clyde asbury]

I like your post and agree with you, with the exception of cameras (e.g. SafeLight) "protecting" us against speeders. These cameras are about revenue enhancement *only*.

Why else would there be no marks against your insurance or license?

[Jonathon Spectre]

the average Londoner is thought to be photographed 300 times a day.

This makes my skin crawl.

[Jonathon Spectre]

Goodness, SoulStorms, that seems almost like a... pattern...

[Excuse_My_Bellicosity]

That See (CTS) technology isn't intended for homeland security or law enforcement and couldn't be used for "other applications without extensive modifications."

Sure. That's what they said about national gun owner databases, too.

The typical snotty responses that I see by the cops/govt. on this subject are usually:
1) 'We'll only use it against the bad guys with proper probable cause, trust me!!'

2) 'If you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear.'

[Excuse_My_Bellicosity]

If you think that contractors are not drooling over the stupendous govt. contracts that they could get using this technology, I've got a bridge to sell you.

[Tench_Coxe]

You know, there is a company that has prodcued a chip that can be inserted into you, and track you with a unique serial number. Why don't you go ahead and have it done. It woudl be a nice, warm, snuggly blanket that will make you feel safe and secure as the government takes care of your every need.

[P.O.E.]

But spending money to put criminals in jail for long periods of time is out of the question, I suppose.

[DLfromthedesert]

Maybe they can use the X-Ray cameras Congressman Mica wants to use at airports; that way they can let us know which citizens need to go on a diet or get liposuction.

[American in Israel]

You could surround the perimeter of a city and catch stolen vehicles leaving, parole violations, etc. without tracking everyone.

How neat, you could get one last picture of your truck as it leaves the city for the chop block. Since the police do not prosicute the crimes now, having pictures will not help.

And this from a government that is allowing the use of public lands for mosques and building a Palestinian State. Somehow I do not trust the hands that fleece us.