U.S. Develops Urban Surveillance System

Associated Press ^ | Jul 01, 2003 | MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN

[Moonman62]

U.S. police use cameras to monitor bridges, tunnels, airports and border crossings ...

What a joke.

[AFreeBird]

"It's one thing to say that if someone is in the street he knows that at any single moment someone can see him," Onek said. "It's another thing to record a whole life so you can see anywhere someone has been in public for 10 years."

IT is only going to get worse.

[agitator]

Coming to a city near you!

[Blood of Tyrants]

Orwell was a prophet.

[Blood of Tyrants]

Gotta know how many votes are coming in the country, ya know.

[Centurion2000]

Orwell was a prophet.

Amen to that.

[optimistically_conservative]

I thought that while everyone was complaining about the penumbra of privacy interpreted into the Constitution by the liberal court, I would take the opportunity to remind everyone that you don't have it at work, in public or where the constitution doesn't operate (no restraint outside our borders)

- and just how good we are getting at reducing those "zones of anonymity".

[CholeraJoe]

Coming soon to a street corner near you in Anytown, USA.

[DannyTN]

"Government would have a reasonably good idea of where everyone is most of the time," said John Pike, a Global Security.org defense analyst.

Alright that guy is really scary.

But I can see some great good coming out of this too, if and only if, it's controlled in it's implementation. You could surround the perimeter of a city and catch stolen vehicles leaving, parole violations, etc. without tracking everyone.

[agitator]

On the other hand, privacy can be enforced within a corporate context whether people know it or not and the corporate context often extends to the public. Surveillance technology owned and operated by government is one thing subject to Constitutional protections, corporate use is quite another and is subject to whatever legislation the people decide on. Government doesn't usually own and operate the most pervasive technology, they're just customers when it suits their purposes. Whether you can get a politician to legislate privacy protections on corporate entities is another story.

[TLBSHOW]

True agitator and to think we elected the people that are doing this.

[zeugma]

Paranoid mode on.
Does anyone care to guess which american cities this will be tested on first?
Paranoid mode off.

Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean you're not being watched.

[blackdog]

To the "Chip in the Homosapian at birth crowd", the higher the high tech methods of controling the populace, the simpler it is to have a ton o' fun. A bunch of brainy MIT grads with a lust for high tech play can never out-think the simple creative power of a bunch of guys over a six pack, repeating itself exponentially accross our great hamlet.

I personally like the cell phone tracking paranoi-ics. All you do is place a few nutty calls to the Whitehouse on your cell phone. Then Federal Express it to yourself on monday, Airborne it to yourself on Tuesday, and so on......They'll be tracking you over every square inch of this country in any given 24 hour period. Imagine the fun.......

[Constitution Day]

LOL... they took pains to add this disclaimer on page 17 of the PDF:

5.4 Restrictions on Surveillance

Certain laws of the United States place restrictions on the use of video surveillance, including some of the capabilities envisioned within the Combat zones That See concept. It is the policy of DARPA, the DoD, and the U.S. Government to respect and obey all applicable laws. Combat zones That See capabilities that are covered by such laws will be employed, tested, and demonstrated only in situations where they are fully allowable by all such laws. CTS technology is intended for use in conjunction with military force protection and urban combat operations, not homeland security or law enforcement. CTS technology will be demonstrated only within the observable boundaries of government installations where video surveillance is expressly permitted, and operational deployment areas outside the United States where it is consistent with all local laws.

[Bon mots]

In the old days we had lots of Urban Surveillance Systems.

[DannyTN]

"I personally like the cell phone tracking paranoi-ics. All you do is place a few nutty calls to the Whitehouse on your cell phone. Then Federal Express it to yourself on monday, Airborne it to yourself on Tuesday, and so on......They'll be tracking you over every square inch of this country in any given 24 hour period. Imagine the fun....... "

You have way too much time on your hands!

[optimistically_conservative]

You could surround the perimeter of a city and catch stolen vehicles leaving, parole violations, etc. without tracking everyone.

The possibilities are endless ....

[agitator]

I remember Officer Joe Bolton. He was pretty good at handling that baton considering he wasn't even a cop.

[optimistically_conservative]

On the other hand, privacy can be enforced within a corporate context whether people know it or not and the corporate context often extends to the public.

Workplace Privacy