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To: optimistically_conservative
U.S. police use cameras to monitor bridges, tunnels, airports and border crossings ... What a joke.
2 posted on
07/01/2003 12:42:01 PM PDT by
Moonman62
To: optimistically_conservative
"It's one thing to say that if someone is in the street he knows that at any single moment someone can see him," Onek said. "It's another thing to record a whole life so you can see anywhere someone has been in public for 10 years."
IT is only going to get worse.
3 posted on
07/01/2003 12:42:10 PM PDT by
AFreeBird
To: optimistically_conservative
Coming to a city near you!
4 posted on
07/01/2003 12:48:31 PM PDT by
agitator
(Ok, mic check...line one...)
To: optimistically_conservative
Orwell was a prophet.
5 posted on
07/01/2003 12:53:18 PM PDT by
Blood of Tyrants
(Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
To: optimistically_conservative
Coming soon to a street corner near you in Anytown, USA.
9 posted on
07/01/2003 1:04:25 PM PDT by
CholeraJoe
(White Devils for Sharpton. We're bad. We're Nationwide)
To: optimistically_conservative
"Government would have a reasonably good idea of where everyone is most of the time," said John Pike, a Global Security.org defense analyst. Alright that guy is really scary.
But I can see some great good coming out of this too, if and only if, it's controlled in it's implementation. You could surround the perimeter of a city and catch stolen vehicles leaving, parole violations, etc. without tracking everyone.
10 posted on
07/01/2003 1:05:06 PM PDT by
DannyTN
(Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
To: optimistically_conservative
Paranoid mode on. Does anyone care to guess which american cities this will be tested on first?
Paranoid mode off.Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean you're not being watched.
13 posted on
07/01/2003 1:14:57 PM PDT by
zeugma
(Hate pop-up ads? Here's the fix: http://www.mozilla.org/ Now Version 1.4!)
To: optimistically_conservative
Im surprised the Disney town of Celebration, Florida doesnt have one yet..
21 posted on
07/01/2003 1:29:11 PM PDT by
ewing
To: Thud
"Americans love technological solutions."
To: optimistically_conservative
Here is my favorite Orwell quote written in 1933 from
Homage to Catalonia: In reality, it was the Communists above all others who prevented revolution in Spain. Later, when the Right Wing forces were in full control, the Communists showed themselves willing to go a great deal further than the Liberals in hunting down revolutionary leaders. [Snip]
Between the Communists and those who claim to stand to the Left of them there is a real difference. The Communists hold that Fascism can be beaten by alliance with sections of the capitalist class (the Popular Front); their opponents hold that this maneuver simply gives Fascism new breeding-grounds. The question has got to be settled; to make the wrong decision may be to land ourselves in for centuries of semi-slavery.
25 posted on
07/01/2003 1:36:05 PM PDT by
Carry_Okie
(And the Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.)
To: All
The technology is going to exist. Griping, complaining, and invoking Orwell is useless. If you're concerned, you should contact your Congressman and Senators about legislating effective restrictions on the use of this technology with stiff punishment for violating those restrictions.
To: optimistically_conservative
Time to develop a cloaking device we can put in our cars to shield us from this evil technology.
29 posted on
07/01/2003 1:56:31 PM PDT by
microgood
(They will all die......most of them.)
To: optimistically_conservative
"Who's going to validate and corroborate all those alerts?" Gil, I assume you are reading FR. Here it is, Gil: automation. Let the machine do the work. You don't have to run out and check each alarm; software can be configured to set the threshold. On orange alert, you roll some of the time; on lemon alert you stay in your ready station and watch the log; on cherry alert, you sit in your mobile unit using the remote station to direct you to the points of interest, always moving; on guacamole alert you can spend quality time with your family or mistress and keep the cell phone handy just in case. Let the machine do its job.
38 posted on
07/01/2003 2:23:40 PM PDT by
RightWhale
(gazing at shadows)
To: optimistically_conservative
Police, scientists and privacy experts say the unclassified technology could easily be adapted to spy on Americans. You can bet that this is precisely what it was designed to do.
Mourn for our Republic - it is on its deathbed.
To: optimistically_conservative
"One can easily foresee pressure to adopt a similar approach to crime-ridden areas of American citiesOh the minorities will surely go for that. Yet another reason to hate whitey and distrust authority. I wonder what the replacement cost is to keep those cameras in working order? If I was a drug dealer there would not be a single camera recording my actions.
Maybe I need to patent my LCD license plates.
49 posted on
07/01/2003 3:18:58 PM PDT by
Dr Warmoose
(Read the above posting with your sarcasm filter.)
To: optimistically_conservative
current law that permits the use of cameras in public areas may have to be revised to address the privacy implications of these new technologies.Where is Sandra Day O'Connor to weigh in on this. Screw "current law", just say sodomites might lose their privacy and POOF! the whole camera issue falls away as an invasion of the Constitutional Right To Privacy.
Or is that right only available within the bedroom?
51 posted on
07/01/2003 3:27:33 PM PDT by
Dr Warmoose
(Read the above posting with your sarcasm filter.)
To: optimistically_conservative
Coming to a neighborhood near you!
52 posted on
07/01/2003 3:33:07 PM PDT by
sit-rep
To: optimistically_conservative
With all of the technology available to spy on citizens, I have entertained the possibility of being under surveillance by a shadowy gov't group. And rather than become paranoid about it, I actually felt sorry for them.
Day 1 -- Subject awoke at 8:59am. Went to his home office in the room adjacent to his bedroom. Stayed there until 7:45PM. Ordered in Pizza. Read an article on ASP.net. Went to bed at 11:45PM.
Day 2 -- Subject awoke at 8:59am. Went to his home office in the room adjacent to his bedroom. Stayed there until 7:45PM. Fixed a BLT. Read an article on c# programming. Went to bed at 11:45PM.
Day 3 -- Subject awoke at 8:59am. Went to his home office in the room adjacent to his bedroom. Stayed there until 7:45PM. Ordered in Pizza. Read an article on ASP.net. Went to bed at 11:45PM.
...
Day 68 -- Subject awoke at 8:59am. Went to his home office in the room adjacent to his bedroom. Stayed there until 7:45PM. Ordered in Pizza. Read an article on ASP.net. Went to bed at 11:45PM.
Day 69 -- I quit. This is boring. Subject is pathetic, and I am even more pathetic for doing nothing but watching him.
60 posted on
07/01/2003 4:15:43 PM PDT by
spodefly
(This is my tagline. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
To: optimistically_conservative
With such a system in place, everyone who visits a gun store or shooting range could be automatically registered as a known gun owner (even if they are only browsing in the store or shooting with a friend's guns), thus bringing about a rapid and nearly complete nationwide gun owner registration without having to get anyone to fill out any forms.
65 posted on
07/01/2003 5:19:22 PM PDT by
Korth
To: Gunslingr3
the average Londoner is thought to be photographed 300 times a day.This makes my skin crawl.
73 posted on
07/01/2003 6:44:41 PM PDT by
Jonathon Spectre
(Nazis believed they were doing good. Even they didn't take 300 photos a day.)
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