What Are Our Options When the Constitution No Longer Protects Us?

June 30, 2003 | sweetliberty

[sweetliberty]

It is heartbreaking to see what is happening to our country. We are plunging into decadence at an alarming rate and it seems that it may already be too late to turn back. Let's face it, we are fast becoming a country that our forefathers wouldn't recognize. Judges have, by and large, become activists for the socialist state. The president is dragged through the mud publicly at every opportunity by members of the opposing party, instead of being honored as our leader as he should be. Lying is as common as breathing no matter whose reputation or career might be damaged and more and more the media we once looked to for information reports only propagnada, half-truths and sometimes blatant lies. We no longer have any real security, neither as a sovreign nation with well-defined and protected borders, nor in our homes where the simple act of defending ourselves or our family can now cost us everything and even land us in prison. Our children are no longer our own to raise, but subjects of the state to be indoctrinated in the ways of "tolerance". The rights of criminals trump those of victims and of society as a whole. Marriage between a man and a woman is considered antiquated and to make a furthur mockery of a sacred institution, it is deemed desirable for the perverse practitioners of homosexuality. The evil doctrine of Islam and prayer to its false god is considered acceptable to impose upon school children, but the sacred scriptures are deemed offensive and prayer to the true God forbidden. The same people who will celebrate the slaughter of 85,000,000 innocents in the womb, will rally to spare the life of a serial murderer. We labor under an increasingly intolerable tax burden and we seem unable to do so much as get a handle on the fraud that keeps putting individuals in public office that work against the interests of the people.

When black has become white, murder is a right, lies are declared to be truth, the wrong word or even expression of belief can cost a job or even land you in jail, where do we turn? Do we continue to accept the increasing weight of the chains of political correctness and liberal tyranny? Do we keep going along with the status quo in hopes of a brighter tomorrow? Are we completely helpless to rise up and take charge of our country or are our chains already so well-forged that fighting them is futile and all we can do is moan under the weight of their burden? Is there any hope of restoring decency and common sense? Can our Republic be resurrected?

If the answer is yes, then how? It seems to matter little whether democrats or Republicans are in power, the wheels of a socialist state seem to have already been set in motion and are gaining momentum all the time. It seems that conservatives, patriots and Christians have only stayed the tide by putting a finger in the dike, but we can only hold back the flood for so long without reinforcements. Will they ever come? And if not, what then? Do we just give up, living the best we can till we die, clinging to what liberty we think we have? Or do we seek alternatives? How much do we value our liberty? Do we move away, find a deserted island somewhere? Do we secede even at the risk of another civil war? Do we challenge the government by passive resistance and noncompliance to force its collapse that we might start over? What is the answer?

I know many FReepers have given this a lot of thought and have ideas about how to cope if/when the current climate becomes unbearable. Desperate times call for desperate measures and it seems we are fast approaching desperation. The liberals would call this progress. I would call it a perilous plunge into the wells of decadence, with the glory of our past fast becoming nothing more than an echo in the ruins of a once great nation. < /rant >

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes And clever in their own sight!..Who justify the wicked for a bribe, And take away the rights of the ones who are in the right!"- (Isaiah 5-20-23)

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." - Abraham Lincoln (first inaugural address)

[IYAAYAS]

Look on the bright side:

You still CAN tell your senator HEY F_YOU!
You still can buy a very nice AR15 and 1000 rounds of ammo.
You still can have an eight foot high nativity scene in front of your house.
You still can refuse the army quarter in your home.
You still can demand a warrant before your house is searched.
You still get a trial if you're arrested.
You still don't have to testify against yourself.
You still won't be flogged for a parking violation.

There's no question this is all changing, for the worse. Some of the above statements are questionable even.

Is the time now? I don't think so, but I was a boy scout at one time, so I'll be prepered for the eventuality.

[votelife]

Christ's return is the answer. We are merely stemming the tide, providing more time before the chaos breaks loose, according to Revalation. May we use the time well!

[Pan_Yans Wife]

The danger in promoting a democracy, instead of a republic.

[MissAmericanPie]

cute

[votelife]

what you speak of referring to obeying God or man is the subject of another thread/prayer request. In Hong Kong basically Christians have zero rights. Will we let it get to that here?

[bc2]

The Free State Project

[Fiddlstix]

[tpaine]

I think the solution to the problem would be to make a concerted effort to pass an amendment to the constitution
that would make it legal for any state that chooses to secede be able to do so without recrimination. If that amendment could be passed our nation would very soon return
to the Nation our founders gave us. Some states might secede
then the FED GOV would feel the tax loss and suck up to them and return their states rights to them if they would rejoin the USA.
80 -AS-


Secession is not necessary, as the 'free state' project realizes.
Any state still retains the constitutional power to defy the feds on most, if not all of their socialistic 'power grabs'.
The political will to do so is lacking, not the powers of a free state to just say no.

[Cultural Jihad]

For the record, neither of us were admonishing others to 'stock up' on military weaponry used to destroy passenger planes, helicopters, and vehicles. That dubious honor belongs to someone else. If you have any problem with extremist statements made by neanderthals and their provocateurs, then kindly raise them with the individuals who make them.

[Cultural Jihad]

LOL!

[Pan_Yans Wife]

My question is how many Americans see themselves as Montanans, Californians, Kansans, before they see themselves as Americans? Do people value their states' rights above their American rights? Is the identity at the state level greater than that at the national level?

[bluebunny]

From the short time I've been on here, they seem like jerks. I was only saying it in jest.

[Centurion2000]

Most of the FReepers who have given a lot of thought to sedition, survivalism, and despair are not posting here anymore.

And some of us are still here posting ...... waiting.

[Cultural Jihad]

I was only saying it in jest.

"Actions should not have consequences!"

[stainlessbanner]

Secesh indeed. The problem is, what our founders once viewed an inherent right, is no longer viewed as such. Parting company as Dr. Williams puts it, would have serious ramifications.

[Cultural Jihad]

I was only saying it in jest.

Go tell it to the Marines.

[BenLurkin]

bttt

bloat

fmcdh

[Bogolyubski]

I think you're probably right on that. Apart from the American revolution, the vast majority of revolutions in history take place when large numbers of people are facing the prospect of having nothing to eat and no way to provide for their families. I had hoped that some folks would wake up in this country after we got to see the horrific sight of planes being flown into skyscrapers. Sadly, I was wrong.

[Centurion2000]

Even if people DID form militias (or what have you) and start a revolt, could we ever hope to succeed? The gov't has all the high-tech weapons and gizmos- the citizens would be out-gunned.

3% of 300 million = 9 million pissed off snipers. The US government even with it's weapons would be in deep kimchee.

[sweetliberty]

"May we use the time well!"

That too, was part of what this post was about. Wisdom is in many counselors.