What Are Our Options When the Constitution No Longer Protects Us?

June 30, 2003 | sweetliberty

[sweetliberty]

It is heartbreaking to see what is happening to our country. We are plunging into decadence at an alarming rate and it seems that it may already be too late to turn back. Let's face it, we are fast becoming a country that our forefathers wouldn't recognize. Judges have, by and large, become activists for the socialist state. The president is dragged through the mud publicly at every opportunity by members of the opposing party, instead of being honored as our leader as he should be. Lying is as common as breathing no matter whose reputation or career might be damaged and more and more the media we once looked to for information reports only propagnada, half-truths and sometimes blatant lies. We no longer have any real security, neither as a sovreign nation with well-defined and protected borders, nor in our homes where the simple act of defending ourselves or our family can now cost us everything and even land us in prison. Our children are no longer our own to raise, but subjects of the state to be indoctrinated in the ways of "tolerance". The rights of criminals trump those of victims and of society as a whole. Marriage between a man and a woman is considered antiquated and to make a furthur mockery of a sacred institution, it is deemed desirable for the perverse practitioners of homosexuality. The evil doctrine of Islam and prayer to its false god is considered acceptable to impose upon school children, but the sacred scriptures are deemed offensive and prayer to the true God forbidden. The same people who will celebrate the slaughter of 85,000,000 innocents in the womb, will rally to spare the life of a serial murderer. We labor under an increasingly intolerable tax burden and we seem unable to do so much as get a handle on the fraud that keeps putting individuals in public office that work against the interests of the people.

When black has become white, murder is a right, lies are declared to be truth, the wrong word or even expression of belief can cost a job or even land you in jail, where do we turn? Do we continue to accept the increasing weight of the chains of political correctness and liberal tyranny? Do we keep going along with the status quo in hopes of a brighter tomorrow? Are we completely helpless to rise up and take charge of our country or are our chains already so well-forged that fighting them is futile and all we can do is moan under the weight of their burden? Is there any hope of restoring decency and common sense? Can our Republic be resurrected?

If the answer is yes, then how? It seems to matter little whether democrats or Republicans are in power, the wheels of a socialist state seem to have already been set in motion and are gaining momentum all the time. It seems that conservatives, patriots and Christians have only stayed the tide by putting a finger in the dike, but we can only hold back the flood for so long without reinforcements. Will they ever come? And if not, what then? Do we just give up, living the best we can till we die, clinging to what liberty we think we have? Or do we seek alternatives? How much do we value our liberty? Do we move away, find a deserted island somewhere? Do we secede even at the risk of another civil war? Do we challenge the government by passive resistance and noncompliance to force its collapse that we might start over? What is the answer?

I know many FReepers have given this a lot of thought and have ideas about how to cope if/when the current climate becomes unbearable. Desperate times call for desperate measures and it seems we are fast approaching desperation. The liberals would call this progress. I would call it a perilous plunge into the wells of decadence, with the glory of our past fast becoming nothing more than an echo in the ruins of a once great nation. < /rant >

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes And clever in their own sight!..Who justify the wicked for a bribe, And take away the rights of the ones who are in the right!"- (Isaiah 5-20-23)

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." - Abraham Lincoln (first inaugural address)

[tpaine]

sweetliberty:

I know many FReepers have given this a lot of thought and have ideas about how to cope if/when the current climate becomes unbearable. Desperate times call for desperate measures and it seems we are fast approaching desperation.
-sl-


You might try some ideologue fringe militia nutcase forum instead. Most of the FReepers who have given a lot of thought to sedition, survivalism, and despair are not posting here anymore.
17 -CJ-


Disregard the 'cultist', kid.

Far too many of the FReepers who gave a lot of thought to jihadic sedition, the survival of our constitution, and who evidenced despair at the Rino agenda are not posting here anymore.

They were run off by the tactics of the fanatical anti-'ideologue' crowd.

[labette]

Question; What if there were a major financial collapse and/or other serious events like more 9-11's ? Would this hurt our "cause" or help? Despair can awaken those searching for answers, yet we all know that central governments tend to grab more power at such times. Opinions welcomed.

[sweetliberty]

"With Chancellor Palapatine on this thread, I suppose this text would be labelled as seditious. I would have to agree, but from a different mindset."

Teehee....and a good and appropriate passage it is. Thanks.

[sweetliberty]

"We see it coming, and somehow we are powerless to stop it."

Yeah, I guess that was the point of the whole rant. The two worst feelings in the world....feeling trapped and feeling helpless.

[wafflehouse]

"Can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have
removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the
people that these liberties are of the gift of God?"
--Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia, 1782.

"If once [the people] become inattentive to the public affairs,
you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, Judges and Governors,
shall all become wolves. It seems to be the law of our general
nature, in spite of individual exceptions."
--Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1787.

"Where the law of the majority ceases to be acknowledged, there
government ends; the law of the strongest takes its place, and
life and property are his who can take them."
--Thomas Jefferson to Annapolis Citizens, 1809.

[OREALLY]

Yep !

[Radix]

I sense that I can learn from you.

[Cultural Jihad]

The two worst feelings in the world....feeling trapped and feeling helpless.

Then go join the DNC. They are champions at fostering hopelessness and helplessness among those prone to professional victimhood.

[tpaine]

sweetliberty:

I know many FReepers have given this a lot of thought and have ideas about how to cope if/when the current climate becomes unbearable. Desperate times call for desperate measures and it seems we are fast approaching desperation.
-sl-


You might try some ideologue fringe militia nutcase forum instead. Most of the FReepers who have given a lot of thought to sedition, survivalism, and despair are not posting here anymore.
17 -CJ-


Disregard the 'cultist', kid.

Far too many of the FReepers who gave a lot of thought to jihadic sedition, the survival of our constitution, and who evidenced despair at the Rino agenda are not posting here anymore.

They were run off by the tactics of the fanatical anti-'ideologue' crowd.

[Sorry kid, I forgot to ping you]

[sweetliberty]

Makes perfect sense to me. Good post. Thanks.

[Budge]

Question: "What Are Our Options When the Constitution No Longer Protects Us?"

Answer: Slavery or fight.

Unfortunately, far too many of us, those who understand the Constitution, are dying off.

Too few are being taught that this document even exists, much less have the ability to understand it. Instead, they are being taught it is a "living document," written by dead white men (evil for being white), who owned slaves (even more evil for this act), who were incapable of seeing the advances of this (once) mighty nation.

The socialists/marxists claim the Founding Fathers would no more understand todays America then they could understand the evil of slavery.

Today, children are being indoctorinated with the Marxist ideals even before they start public school.

[Pistias]

The only option you've ever had. Protect you and yours yourself.

[MississippiMan]

The two guys who got off do, but I don't think the gay agenda was advanced.

Rest assured it was not only advanced, but kicked into warp drive. Even if that weren't the case, however, this decision is but one tiny element alongside a thousand others.

This society, this government, this country, is BROKEN, and it's broken beyond repair by conventional means. The notion that we voters have control of this country is a joke, pure illusion. We control nothing.

And like the original poster, I see the decadence and decay accelerating all around us.

MM

[Doc On The Bay]

I'm told, History is Cyclic.

It would appear that Those of us who Believe in the "Rightness" of our Constitution are "In the Acsendancy."

Perhaps THIS is "Our Time."

DESPITE the obvious calumny of a lot of our putative "Leaders," those of us who revere & Trust our Constitution have a (albeit small) Voice heard by our elected officials.

Perhaps we can divert the Socialist Juggernaut by constant pressure on our spineless politicians. Perhaps.

Doc

[Cultural Jihad]

One reason could be that after being strip mined, as is in the process of happening, we are blown to smithereens and are not around for the anti-christ.

Oh, gosh. Look at Boston Harbor! You are so right-on!

And here's what's left of the First Baptist Church on Main Street!

;-)

[sweetliberty]

"Where the law of the majority ceases to be acknowledged, there government ends; the law of the strongest takes its place, and life and property are his who can take them." --Thomas Jefferson to Annapolis Citizens, 1809.'

That is the one that concerns me.

[Cultural Jihad]

Concerns you?! A few anarcho-ideologues around here would call that sort of social-Darwinism as quintessimal conservatism.

[tpaine]

Chancellor Palpatine:
"Time to start stockpiling those RPG's!!"
Why?
-CP-


Why? So that the neanderthal agent provocateurs can then gloat to their comrades about the alleged neanderthal FReepers.
58 -Cultural Jihad-


Good point.
59 -CP-


Yep, -- it was..
It illustrated well how you two provocateurs gloat over your main agenda here at FR.
You bait people into making extremist type statements, than hound them till they get banned.
Whatta pair. Whatta life.

[bluebunny]

Do you have the qoute from the Denver FBI guy? I want to read it so I will know my enemy.

[antisocial]

I think the solution to the problem would be to make a concerted effort to pass an amendment to the constitution
that would make it legal for any state that chooses to secede be able to do so without recrimination. If that amendment could be passed our nation would very soon return
to the Nation our founders gave us. Some states might secede
then the FED GOV would feel the tax loss and suck up to them and return their states rights to them if they would rejoin the USA.