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What Are Our Options When the Constitution No Longer Protects Us?
June 30, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 06/30/2003 5:33:56 PM PDT by sweetliberty

It is heartbreaking to see what is happening to our country. We are plunging into decadence at an alarming rate and it seems that it may already be too late to turn back. Let's face it, we are fast becoming a country that our forefathers wouldn't recognize. Judges have, by and large, become activists for the socialist state. The president is dragged through the mud publicly at every opportunity by members of the opposing party, instead of being honored as our leader as he should be. Lying is as common as breathing no matter whose reputation or career might be damaged and more and more the media we once looked to for information reports only propagnada, half-truths and sometimes blatant lies. We no longer have any real security, neither as a sovreign nation with well-defined and protected borders, nor in our homes where the simple act of defending ourselves or our family can now cost us everything and even land us in prison. Our children are no longer our own to raise, but subjects of the state to be indoctrinated in the ways of "tolerance". The rights of criminals trump those of victims and of society as a whole. Marriage between a man and a woman is considered antiquated and to make a furthur mockery of a sacred institution, it is deemed desirable for the perverse practitioners of homosexuality. The evil doctrine of Islam and prayer to its false god is considered acceptable to impose upon school children, but the sacred scriptures are deemed offensive and prayer to the true God forbidden. The same people who will celebrate the slaughter of 85,000,000 innocents in the womb, will rally to spare the life of a serial murderer. We labor under an increasingly intolerable tax burden and we seem unable to do so much as get a handle on the fraud that keeps putting individuals in public office that work against the interests of the people.

When black has become white, murder is a right, lies are declared to be truth, the wrong word or even expression of belief can cost a job or even land you in jail, where do we turn? Do we continue to accept the increasing weight of the chains of political correctness and liberal tyranny? Do we keep going along with the status quo in hopes of a brighter tomorrow? Are we completely helpless to rise up and take charge of our country or are our chains already so well-forged that fighting them is futile and all we can do is moan under the weight of their burden? Is there any hope of restoring decency and common sense? Can our Republic be resurrected?

If the answer is yes, then how? It seems to matter little whether democrats or Republicans are in power, the wheels of a socialist state seem to have already been set in motion and are gaining momentum all the time. It seems that conservatives, patriots and Christians have only stayed the tide by putting a finger in the dike, but we can only hold back the flood for so long without reinforcements. Will they ever come? And if not, what then? Do we just give up, living the best we can till we die, clinging to what liberty we think we have? Or do we seek alternatives? How much do we value our liberty? Do we move away, find a deserted island somewhere? Do we secede even at the risk of another civil war? Do we challenge the government by passive resistance and noncompliance to force its collapse that we might start over? What is the answer?

I know many FReepers have given this a lot of thought and have ideas about how to cope if/when the current climate becomes unbearable. Desperate times call for desperate measures and it seems we are fast approaching desperation. The liberals would call this progress. I would call it a perilous plunge into the wells of decadence, with the glory of our past fast becoming nothing more than an echo in the ruins of a once great nation. < /rant >

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes And clever in their own sight!..Who justify the wicked for a bribe, And take away the rights of the ones who are in the right!"- (Isaiah 5-20-23)
"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." - Abraham Lincoln (first inaugural address)



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To: sweetliberty
...our forebears revolted over far less than we swallow regularly.

Our forebears actually had a chance to win when the cry went up.."Revolution!"

321 posted on 07/01/2003 6:31:43 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (And now for something completely different...)
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To: sweetliberty
Thanks.
322 posted on 07/01/2003 6:34:49 PM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: fightu4it
Francis Yockey said it was comming. They killed him in the early 60's.

Could you give me a small history lesson? I never heard of him. (I was a teenager in the 60's and born into a liberal family, didn't wake up until a little later.)

323 posted on 07/01/2003 6:45:51 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
That's some interesting info you've posted. Assuming the figures you've cited are accurate, it would appear that the American revolution actually enjoyed the broadest popular support (about 3 1/2 percent). There wasn't any danger of starvation or total economic collapse in 1775 North America either. It would appear that I was still holding on to some Marxist/Socialist theory that I'd been taught. The figures you cited would certainly prove that it doesn't take a large number of dedicated folks to change a nation - which is actually encouraging given the current sinkhole we seem to be experiencing.
324 posted on 07/01/2003 6:46:57 PM PDT by Bogolyubski
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To: JNB
An economic collapse would get most Americans to finally pull their heads out of their A$&, and social liberals and self proclaimed economic conservatives will have plenty to worry about when this happens.

Won't have to wait long.....California is on the brink........NY isn't far behind......soon, all will be "revealed"! Let the games commence!!!

325 posted on 07/01/2003 6:56:36 PM PDT by dirtbiker (Nuke 'em all! Let God sort 'em out!)
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To: Ahban

ALL LAWS ARE LEGISLATED MORALITY

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That pretty much covers it, Except as of last Thursday, the law is how each judge wills it. Legislature? What Legislature? We don't got no filthy steekin Legislature!

ALL LAWS ARE NOW WHAT THE JUDGE SAYS THEY ARE WHEN YOU ARE BEFORE HIM OR HER

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Please remember the the Judge has children, and need help to go to the kind of schools we *all* want Judge's children to go to, you know. There's a tax-deducatible college fund box there on the table. Can't miss it -- just as you come up to the witness stand.


326 posted on 07/01/2003 6:59:25 PM PDT by bvw
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To: OREALLY
red dawn had its sympathizers... we are not there yet, but it is inevitable... plan for the days my friends, they are coming...
327 posted on 07/01/2003 7:14:20 PM PDT by teeman8r (to soar like an eagle, then be shot down by a pellet gun...)
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To: teeman8r
hey tman! long time, no see!!!!!
328 posted on 07/01/2003 7:15:42 PM PDT by dirtbiker (Nuke 'em all! Let God sort 'em out!)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
(yes, that was my post that was deleted - I guess its OK to put up Fred Phelps queer bashes, though)

If you'll pardon the experesion, DAMN STRAIGHT!

329 posted on 07/01/2003 7:23:42 PM PDT by rightofrush (Not only Rush, but Buchanan as well.)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
(yes, that was my post that was deleted - I guess its OK to put up Fred Phelps queer bashes, though)

If you'll pardon the experesion, DAMN STRAIGHT!

330 posted on 07/01/2003 7:24:37 PM PDT by rightofrush (Not only Rush, but Buchanan as well.)
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To: teeman8r
Like your tagline T. It suits you. Hehe...
331 posted on 07/01/2003 7:24:43 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined."-Patrick Henry

"The tree of liberty must be watered, from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson

332 posted on 07/01/2003 7:29:52 PM PDT by hosepipe
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To: sweetliberty
hey, lib... and dirtbiker... the tagline was left over from a flying chicken story...
333 posted on 07/01/2003 7:33:46 PM PDT by teeman8r (to soar like an eagle, then be shot down by a pellet gun...)
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To: hosepipe
"Can a house divided be painted?"-- abraham luden

"The tree of liberty must be pruned occassionally"-- thomas jefferson carver

"Don't bother me i'm watching t.v."-- my son this summer
334 posted on 07/01/2003 7:38:52 PM PDT by teeman8r (to soar like an eagle, then be shot down by a pellet gun...)
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To: teeman8r
"...a flying chicken story"

Dare I ask?

335 posted on 07/01/2003 7:40:20 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: teeman8r
If it jams, force it! If it breaks, it needed replacing anyway! - Murphy's Second Law

Doing a job well might get something done, but doing it wrong 14 times in a row is job security! - Unnamed Govt Worker

Save it if you can. - Racing Rule #1

Have enough sense to know when you can't save it! - Racing Rule #2

336 posted on 07/01/2003 7:45:34 PM PDT by dirtbiker (Nuke 'em all! Let God sort 'em out!)
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To: dirtbiker
Just some musing about how life in general, and Government in particular, operates.........
337 posted on 07/01/2003 7:48:06 PM PDT by dirtbiker (Nuke 'em all! Let God sort 'em out!)
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To: sweetliberty
i am not so upset with the decision as to what couples do in the privacy of their own bedroom, but the supremes ruling that shielding illegal activity somehow makes it ok...

my take, if the buggers want me to tolerate their buggery, then they need to tolerate my intolerence with their behavior, and not expect me to hire them, rent to them, buy from them, etc....

i am an american, free to hate what i deem hateable... it is my birthright...

jmt, teeman
338 posted on 07/01/2003 7:48:13 PM PDT by teeman8r (to soar like an eagle, then be shot down by a pellet gun...)
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To: dirtbiker
you gotta know when to hold them, know when to fold them, and know when to blow the bastages head off for cheatin'
339 posted on 07/01/2003 7:50:24 PM PDT by teeman8r (to soar like an eagle, then be shot down by a pellet gun...)
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To: sweetliberty
hey lib,

i've been going around and around with the maryland department of the environment, and it looks like the states are ready to oppress any time they choose....

i am trying to retain property rights by causeing extreme discomfort to the powers that be but without spending gobs of dough to do it...


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340 posted on 07/01/2003 7:55:38 PM PDT by teeman8r (do unto others, then write it off of your taxes and do them again with government's approval)
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