What Are Our Options When the Constitution No Longer Protects Us?

June 30, 2003 | sweetliberty

[Cultural Jihad]

The solution was very simple. - Close state schools and tell the feds to go to hell.

Thanks for pointing out the error. With all due respect, such a statement is not only anarcho-lunacy; it is purely ludicrous as well. Supposedly the faux-conservative ideologues will favor the repeal of child labor laws, too.

[Budge]

I've noticed that using the "liberal smear" is a tactic of people who have nothing else to argue with.

You prove my point, thank you!

Did I accuse you, who wasn't even mentioned, or Cultural Jihad or anyone else of being a liberal?

Did I not say, in 285 that "I can't say they are disruptors,...," but that some were using the tactic of liberals?

Were you including yourself when you said, "I've noticed that using the "liberal smear" is a tactic of people who have nothing else to argue with.?"

Can you answer the question..."Would you please explain to me - better, all of us, just where it was mandated that the state, or federal government should be in charge of educating our children?"

[Howlin]

You were posting about CJ and then you posted this:

I can't say they are disruptors, at this point, but I notice that the tactic of calling others names as opposed to decent disagreement discussion is a tactic of liberals.

What is a person to assume.

[sweetliberty]

Regarding your post #300, based on your condescending attitude and complete ignorance of the south, I can only assume that you must live in one of those problem free, vastly superior bastions of liberty and intellect, like California, Washington or New York. Maybe you get your information from Hollywood, or are you just one of those people that puts others down to make yourself feel important?

[sweetliberty]

Never mind. I see "highiq" is no longer with us.

[tpaine]

The solution was very simple. - Close state schools and tell the feds to go to hell.
-tpaine-


Thanks for pointing out the error. With all due respect, such a statement is not only anarcho-lunacy; it is purely ludicrous as well. Supposedly the faux-conservative ideologues will favor the repeal of child labor laws, too.
301 -CJ-

There you go again, CJ..
You ignore the posted issue, [the Brown decision] and just repeat your insistance that my comment is ludicrous anarcho-lunacy, then make another completely inane remark on child labor while saying someone is a phony conservative 'idelogue'.

You are simply trolling for flames, and once you get them you call in the mods to delete posts, and suspend those you bait. Whatta creep.

[who knows what evil?]

There have been a number of EXCELLENT posts to this thread; many of which explain the reason for the explosive growth in 'home churches' lately...some Christians are just sick and tired of the watered-down message spewing from the pulpits. I gave up on attending church a few years ago; the pastor was more interested in the on-field performance of the Tennessee Vols than he was in preaching the Word, and uplifting Jesus Christ. Gather together with a few fellow believers, and study the Word of G-d. "Where two or three are gathered in My name, there I am also". (paraphrase) I really don't see the difference between the apostate churches and public schools...neither one has any particular interest in the truth.

[PatrioticAmerican]

"I'm ready for Jesus to come back, myself- He's the only answer to this "

Are you sure he isn't expecting us to help ourselves with his blessings?

[glory]

Do you really think those 1 billion muslims would have been a threat to a moral country? This is where the ungodly, like yourself, trip up. You fail to realize that a nation full of hedonists out for their own pleasure really aren't all that concerned about 1 billion Muslims either. Or did I miss the massive surge of homosexuals out there who are beating down the doors of Washington telling them to push back this threat? BTW, where is your righteous indignation at the homos parading across the country and their one-minded zealotry to anal sex? Shouldn't you be asking them why they see Christian america as the biggest threat to the country them when there are 1 billion muslims out there? After all, we wouldn't have had a chance to be outraged at this decision if it wasn't for two gay men who could have better spent their time, in your opinion, concentrating on how to defeat the Muslim hordes.

I'll leave you with a simplified version of this. We can not defeat what is outside of our borders if we are a mess within. And be intellectually honest enough to ask the same questions and throw the same names around at homos who spend most of their waking moments not only protecting their freedom to anal copulation, but promoting it.

[Budge]

I realize what you asked tpaine in no way included me, so please forgive me butting in and asking just what you meant when you said, "Supposedly the faux-conservative ideologues will favor the repeal of child labor laws, too."

Were you speaking of the terrible sweat-shops at the turn of the 20th century, or the more recent child labour laws?

[glory]

Yeah, some of us "lunatic" Christians support it too. Don't know if you could stand the alliance though.

[sweetliberty]

"I really don't see the difference between the apostate churches and public schools...neither one has any particular interest in the truth."

Good point. This may come as a surprise (or maybe not), but it was in seminary that I was first exposed to institutionalized liberalism and its doctrine of perversity diversity. In a large group meeting once when a couple of us challenged them on the lack of spirituality we were told, "if you want spirituality, go someplace else."

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

No offense but you articulated myth # 1. No revolution without large numbers of people going hungry. Most if not all revolutions are by small numbers relative to the total population. The Communist Revolution in 1918 was by about 225,000 out of 100,000,000. The French Revolution was about 200,000 out of 35,000,000, the American Revolution was about 150,000 out of about 4,500,000. However, it is not yet time. We owe it to those who have gone before to try the usual political methods first. It is good to see the number of people posting here who are starting to think about the coming fight. It will come the morons being elevated into power are zero!!

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

You Said: "Military coup."

Response; They are the only organized group with some discipline left. The problem being we would hope for George Washington but would get Julius Caesar.

[Cyber Ninja]

Bump

[Budge]

You were posting about CJ and then you posted this:

What is a person to assume.

An intelligent person, or one with a modicum of common sense, would assume the writer either was not familiar with the person you mentioned and was giving him/her the benefit of doubt.

Now will you answer the question this time posed to you in #302, please?

[Captain Beyond]

Thanks for the heads up on this. It is good to see somebody still keeping an eye on the ball. We need step it up and let the RNC know that we are a serious voting block to contend with. We need to start leading with issues instead being thrown crumbs from the consensus table. Leadership by consensus is not leadership at all.

"To me, consensus seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects." Margaret Thatcher

Can I copy your original and send it to a few people to get them fired up?

[fightu4it]

"As I recall, our forebears revolted over far less than we swallow regularly. Have we become so soft that we have no will to fight? Or if we fight, should we never be able to rest? I realize that we all want to believe that we are making a difference, and maybe in some small way we are, but how long will we be able to swim against the tide? What are the chances that we can turn it around? I don't mean to be fatalistic, but I am very discouraged. Perhaps there is something I have not considered. I fear for the future our children will inherit. How are you coping? What are you teaching your children? Where do you see the USA in 10 years? 20 years? What is the legacy of our generations?"

Francis Yockey said it was comming. They killed him in the early 60's.

[sweetliberty]

"Can I copy your original and send it to a few people..."

Certainly.

[glory]

You sure you want to stand by these statements? ++++It wasn't too long ago that there even STATE funding didn't exist for schools. +++

There's no Constititional mandate for Federal Education, and there's absolutely NO reason that we can't abolish all public education, either. ++

I hate to say it as a homeschooler, but there appears there is more of a mandate and precedence for publicly funded education--back as far as the early 1800's then there is for two men to have anal sex. And this is just a quick search I found, but there is a lot more detailed info out there that I've researched before. Public education, from all I have gathered, was seen as a ministry to those at it's roots(not the Horace Mann's and Dewey, but the original supporters) and was intended to strengthen the moral fiber of the US and unfortunately it was twisted to it's current condition because of a whole lot of anti-Catholic bigotry(our forefathers really reeped their sins to us protestants for their bigotry).

Education History A Timeline of Public Education in America Public education in the United States has an interesting history beginning with the nation's first public school in Boston. Public education has long been intertwined with the social and economic history of the country. Set forth below is a timeline of significant events in the history of public education in the United States. 1635 The Boston Latin School, the first publicly funded secondary school in America, and the oldest educational institution in the country, opens. Some notable figures in history who attended this school include: Cotton Mather, Benjamin Franklin, John Hancock and Samuel Adams. 1779 Thomas Jefferson argued for universal taxpayer funded public education at the basic level. While he was unsuccessful at this time, his influence was apparent in later years.

1837 Horace Mann becomes the first secretary of education in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. He travels the state on horseback advocating for a system of "common schools." Under his leadership, the legislature provided funds to localities to open the schools. These common schools provided a standardized curriculum at the elementary level and were the precursors to today's public school system.

1849 Henry Barnard creates a system of common schools in Connecticut.

1852 The Massachusetts legislature enacts the first compulsory education law requiring every child to get an education.

1853 New York follows the lead of Massachusetts and passes its own compulsory education law.

5 By the end of the Civil War, most state constitutions guaranteed public support for public education.

1874 Michigan Supreme Court rules that communities could use local property taxes to fund secondary schools.

It seems as though what is really recent is the acceptance of sodomy in our society and laws. In fact the definition of sodomy was even broader than it is now back in the 1600's.

The proscription of sodomy in the English tradition began in 1533 when King Henry VIII adopted contemporary church doctrine into a system of laws at the time of the English withdrawal from the Catholic Church. Sodomy became both a sin and a crime, since ecclesiastical law recognizes no distinction between the concepts of "sin" and "crime." Sodomy included any form of non-procreative acts including masturbation, oral and anal sex.

The original thirteen American colonies derived their laws from the English common law and continued the legal tradition in which sodomy carried the penalty of death.

The 1683 Pennsylvania law called sodomy an "unnatural sin" and the East New Jersey law listed it among the "Offenses against God."

Every state adopted some form of a sodomy law as it joined the United States, either in acceptance of an unwritten common law or in formal codification. A slow modernization of laws away from a religious doctrine into a secular system reduced penalties over time in a piece meal fashion. All states had laws against sodomy by 1960.

The 1955 edition of the American Law Institute’s model penal code omitted sodomy laws for the first time. In 1961, the Illinois legislature revised their criminal code without prohibiting sodomy. The law went into effect in 1962 without fanfare ________________

I of course hold my own opinions, but you sir are talking out of your behind if you say that there is no mandate or precedence for public education, yet there is one for anal sex. History will prove that you are very mixed up on the subjects.