Maybe We Should Kill More of Them

boblonsberry.com ^ | 6/30/03 | Bob Lonsberry

[shortstop]

I think we need to kill more of them.

Iraqis. And the Arab interlopers. And the Iranian provocateurs.

We need to kill more of them.

Because, right now, we’re down on points. Since the end of major hostilities, we’ve been getting our butts kicked in minor hostilities.

Sixty Americans dead since we pulled down the statues and hardly a day passes that more names aren’t added to that tally.

And it’s got to stop.

It’s time to remember that we’re in a war and that in a war you’re supposed to kill them and not let them kill you. It seems like our commanders and statisticians have forgotten that. And they better remember.

Or we better be glad Muslims don’t celebrate Tet.

Because it’s about gotten to the point we should start calling these guys “Charlie” and bombing Cambodia. I’m too young to really remember Vietnam, but this sure smells a lot like what I’ve seen on the History Channel.

True fact: America wins wars and loses police actions.

So we should stop trying to be Officer Friendly.

We should pound these people into the dust. We should stop being polite and start being effective. If you’re going to put Americans in a war zone, you’ve got to let them fight. And it’s better to kill 1,000 Iraqis than it is to lose a single American.

Yes, I mean that.

And so should you.

Because every single American GI is precious and priceless. We will die for our country, but we won’t die for stupidity. And putting fresh American meat out there every day for these Jihad boys to gun down comes pretty close to stupidity.

Those men wear our uniform, but we don’t own them. We’re just borrowing them. From mother and fathers and wives and children. And we’ve got to give them back. The problem is right now we’re sending too many of them home in a box.

And nobody’s noticing or caring. It’s already slipped into the background of life. Another day, another one or two, another day, this time they got three. And there are broken hearts and lives back home that we politely ignore.

Well, that’s got to stop.

Because we must keep faith with the men and women in our armed forces. And that means we must do everything possible to keep them alive.

Everything.

If a neighborhood or city is too violent to be safely patrolled by a Humvee, then send in a Bradley. And if a Bradley isn’t safe, then send in an Abrams.

And if that doesn’t work, send in a B-52.

Every village that kills an American should be marked by a crater. A smoldering crater.

If crowds or protesters get belligerent, hose them down with tear gas. If crowds or protesters get violent, hose them down with an M-60.

That’s a machine gun, by the way. It makes bad people stop being bad. Typically they lie down and bloat in the hot summer sun.

The problem is that, amazingly, these people don’t respect or fear us. They have contempt for us. They think we are spineless. And I’m not sure they’re wrong.

Not our troops on the ground, but some of their commanders, and the muckity-mucks watching on TV back at HQ. I think they’re more worried about international PR than they are about keeping Americans alive.

Which is nuts and treasonous.

If an American is killed by a sniper, then immediately level the surrounding area. This isn’t an American crime scene, it is a foreign war zone. If you’re not sure which building he’s hiding in, level them all. You don’t have to read anybody their rights, you just have to kill them. If a grenade comes out of a crowd, kill the crowd.

If two of your soldiers “disappear,” you don’t take three suspects into custody for questioning – as we did at the end of last week. You shoot the three guys, tie a rope around their ankles and run their bodies up a flag pole. It sends a message.

And the message we better get is that we are dealing with a different and brutal culture which sees our sense of fair play and civilization as contemptible weaknesses inviting attack and scorn. Some Iraqis, undoubtedly, are wonderful people deserving of our best treatment. Some of them, however, along with the roving bands of Arab terrorists and Iranian agents, deserve a .45 right between the eyes. And we better give it to them.

Before they give it to us.

We must also remember that this is a society which for almost two generations has been ruled through terror and violence. They are used to a firm hand. We must use a firm hand against those who threaten or attack us, and the communities which protect them.

We need to get hard, or we’re going to get hurt. And that’s not acceptable.

The key to winning a war is to kill more of them than they kill of you.

And by that measure, we’ve had a very bad couple of months.

It’s time to take the gloves off. It’s time to let the fighters fight.

[jpl]

There's no "maybe" about it.

The entire middle east isn't worth one American soldier.

That very well may be true, but that doesn't change the fact that they're killing us on our own soil and plotting to do it again. Some of these guys that just got arrested a few days ago are practically my next door neighbors.

And I don't buy that crap that if we just abandoned Israel to its fate that they would leave us alone.

[LarryM]

The problem is that, amazingly, these people don’t respect or fear us. They have contempt for us. They think we are spineless. And I’m not sure they’re wrong.

This is exactly right. You win wars by killing your enemy. There is no other way. Letting them escape with their weapons was only seen by them as weakness. Bush's negotiations with Hamas and appeasement of PLO terrorists is only seen in the ME as a lack of guts. They just have to outlast us to win the war on terror. The signs are not encouraging.

[milan]

You do have a point. Destroy the tribe...no one to cause any problems. However, we could be more heavy handed than we are. I don't think it would have the opposite effect and create more terrorists. If you are heavy handed enough, they get to the point where they just want you to stop. This worked in Germany and Japan, and to a lesser extent Vietnam.

[Lazamataz]

For that matter the only way to stop american soldiers from being killed in places all around the world, as per your thinking, is to kill anyone who is not an American hence all treat is gone.

All treats are gone only if you keep on eating them.

Ration them a little, and the treats will last until the next paycheck.

[tm22721]

You're dead wrong.

Americans know and accept the cost of avoiding another 9/11.

BUMP

[milan]

I didn't say kill civilians. I said their families. Difference between random civilians and getting personnal. As I have said, and I will say it again. Carpet bombing works. It has worked in the past. It would work again. It never stopped working...we just changed tactics. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[milan]

For that matter the only way to stop american soldiers from being killed in places all around the world, as per your thinking, is to kill anyone who is not an American hence all treat is gone.

Now you are on the verge of a liberal rant. I am being specific to war zones.

[commonerX]

Where is the war zone on terrorism located?

[commonerX]

We could always do what they did is Soylent Green. That way we could eleminate the THREAT and get a treat.

[Lazamataz]

I like treats.

[milan]

Don't have time for dumba$$es today. If you miss the point that is your problem.

[Greenpees]

The poster's writing is born out of frustration. It's a bit more difficult to mow down a crowd where a shot may have eminated from (although, a grenade is quite different) and the author probably wouldn't do it.

I always felt that Somalia was a perfect case of "officer friendly" tactics. Every soldier/grunt/seabee knew that the crap could hit the fan at any time, but the official word was always "it's an operational success". Meanwhile, guys were dying. (not to the Iraq extent, but occasionally)

Nobody asked us. CNN was busy with the HQ tent, only reporting the good news (After all, Clinton was President)but not talking to the ground pounder. They're are two entirely different realities in situations like Somalia when it come to HQ and the troops. Communication is important between the ranks, and the troops need to know that HQ hears the real deal, not the politically expedient answer.

I digress. Iraq is as different as different can be. We must succeed, withdrawal is not an option. Therefore "killing the population to save the village" won't work. We simply have to strengthen force protection, hunt the culprits, and kill them. Only them if possible. I wish our guys luck.

[commonerX]

Don't have time for dumba$$es today.

You are talking about killing someones family because a relative of thiers killed someone they see as an invader. Buy you're thinking why not just round up 10 or 20 people and execute them as an example. You sound like a radical dumpa$$ with simplistic and stupid answers. I would think if you are eligible you should join the military and put you ideas to practice, see how far you get, maybe you'll be the Furher some day.

[SAMWolf]

Maybe We Should Kill More of Them

Works for me.

[Darksheare]

Sounds like a good idea to this former artillery type.
Did you catch the confiscation of bars of gold?
Poor women and children in Iraq wouldn't be attacking troops while holding bars of gold in their homes.
Saddam raided the treasury, and we did intercept something like half a bill in gold bars.
So he's been paying the hired insurgents with gold bars.

[snippy_about_it]

Maybe We Should Kill More of Them

I'm not so sure the word maybe should be in this sentence.

[bc2]

Boob Loonsbury is a JOKE!

this is coming from a man who just endorsed CHUCK SCHUMER. I mean gag me with a pitchfork. You're from Florida? Have you ever heard Boob's radio show? I am forced to listen to it from time to time, and if I ever see the man in person it will be all I can do to restrain myself from choking the life out of this stupid, stupid little man.

Idiots like him have done more harm to the Conservative cause by being the loudest, stupidest, most uninformed reactionary blabber holes around, and calling themselves Conservative.

Save your time and stay away from this moron's site. God help you if you ever listen to his radio show.

[SAMWolf]

And I don't buy that crap that if we just abandoned Israel to its fate that they would leave us alone

Oh I don't by that crap either. The hate us becasue we're Americans. Some just live for the change to kill us, nothing is going to change that. And since they won't leave us alone then I want to quit playing these games. No arrests, no questionings, our troops take fire, and I don't care were it comes from, level the place. Start killing them instead of waiting for them to kill us.

[bc2]

ugh, Boob Loonsberry... Boob, Boob, Boob.

check out #77...

[Protagoras]

Advocating killing all the people in a village is reminicent of Nazi Germany.