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CA: Davis recall effort remains short of goal
Mercury News ^ | 6/29/03 | Dion Nissenbaum

Posted on 06/29/2003 10:39:27 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

Edited on 04/13/2004 3:31:29 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

SACRAMENTO - It's crunch time for the campaign to recall Gov. Gray Davis.

The historic attempt to oust the Democratic governor less than a year after he was re-elected has just a few weeks left to pull in hundreds of thousands of signatures to force an election this fall, when Davis foes have their best shot to defeat him.


(Excerpt) Read more at bayarea.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 158left; calgov2002; davis; effort; only32; recall; remains; shortofgoal
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To: dalereed
What, you mean one of these guys will be counting the signatures?


21 posted on 06/29/2003 1:04:39 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy
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To: Bubba_Leroy
I know you mean to be funny, but the Judge is a real hero!
22 posted on 06/29/2003 1:09:02 PM PDT by onyx (Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
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To: NormsRevenge
The beach is sunny today in San Diego, but it's not a 'warm' sun.

Thanks for your chart, the article is soooooooooo discouraging.
23 posted on 06/29/2003 1:15:38 PM PDT by onyx (Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
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To: John Jorsett
Evan Mecham, the Republican, crazy Mormon governor. It was fun. Lot's of irate Mormons and others trying to hassle us when we gathered the signatures and a near riot when we took the signatures to the state capital to turn them in. The recall gave the state legislature the backbone to eventually impeach and convict him.
24 posted on 06/29/2003 1:22:01 PM PDT by Az Joe
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To: All
Like Gilliard says in the article - if the anti-recall people actually BELIEVE their spin then they will be in for a shock.

I am disappointed with Dion Nissenbaum and will send him an emailing explaining why. If he would call the 10-15 most populous counties in the state and inquire how many signatures they had received he would find that we're speaking the truth when we point out that the recall effort has ALREADY surpassed the 897,158 signatures required by law.

That many has already been turned into the counties and by July 7th or so my guess is we will be at 1.3-1.5 MILLION signatures collected.

Our goal is to get AS MANY as possible to provide as much INSURANCE as possible against invalidated signatures.

PLEASE - get 1-5 more signatures (that's just one more petition to download and print) and send them in!!!

DOWNLOAD RECALL PETITION - RecallGrayDavis.com

25 posted on 06/29/2003 3:03:08 PM PDT by Impeach98
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To: Impeach98


26 posted on 06/30/2003 4:31:07 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi..Support FR . "California-Fighting the rising tide of socialism" . http://www.DRAFTTom.com)
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To: Impeach98
I put a total of six signatures (two petitions, different counties) in the mail today. I know it's not much, but it helps.
27 posted on 06/30/2003 4:34:31 PM PDT by .38sw
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To: halfdome
From what I've seen that's the number that's been turned in and verified. There's a lot of layers to a petition with smaller number as you dig deeper.
28 posted on 06/30/2003 4:39:03 PM PDT by discostu (you've got to bleed for the dancer)
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To: NormsRevenge
Time to put the shoe on the other foot and conservatives indulge in a little vote fraud of their own?
29 posted on 06/30/2003 4:44:32 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
May as well, I reckun.

The mass media is now calling it a Republican-led Recall.

Still, Tom is getting little mention by the national rags. Idiots.

30 posted on 06/30/2003 5:10:19 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi..Support FR . "California-Fighting the rising tide of socialism" . http://www.DRAFTTom.com)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
It doesn't matter how many signatures they turn in, the democRATs will find a way to disqualify enough to make sure that they fall under the required minimum. Count on it

Have to disagree. They might be able to delay until the primary, but they are gonna choke big time trying to pull that kind of stunt on the kinds of numbers the recall will have amassed by September.

Fortunetly there are some limits on how much they can get away with.

31 posted on 06/30/2003 7:19:21 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: NormsRevenge
Thanks Norm, very enlightening graphs
32 posted on 06/30/2003 7:22:45 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: MissAmericanPie
Time to put the shoe on the other foot and conservatives indulge in a little vote fraud of their own?

Hell No! You can't beat the Rats at their own game without becomming a Rat by a different name.

33 posted on 06/30/2003 7:27:22 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: dalereed
The Sec. of State doesn't get the petitions and doesn't have anything to do with the counting, it's done by the County Recorders offices.

Oh yeah? And so the litigation begins ...

NewsMax.com

 

July 1, 2003

Recall Bid Going to Court?

Thanks to an opinion issued by California election officials, the recall campaign against Governor Gray Davis may make a pit stop in the courts before voters get a crack at driving the unpopular governor from the state capitol in Sacramento.

A letter to the election supervisors in all of the state's 58 counties from Democrat Secretary of State Kevin Shelley said that while the officials must keep a running count of signatures on recall petitions, they can stall for a full month before validating the signatures.

As a result of this obvious delaying tactic, some recall supporters are threatening to take the case to court on the grounds that Shelley's action could delay the recall election until March instead of in October or early November. They say an election in March would give Davis the advantage of having a larger turnout of Democrats voting in the upcoming presidential primary.

"A judicial clarification appears to be required," James Sweeney, a lawyer for the Recall Gray Davis Committee, one of three groups trying to remove Davis told the Sacramento Bee. "It's our view that the constitution requires a continuous count and validation and that it does so to prevent politically motivated officials from derailing, slowing down or stalling the certification of a recall petition."

Added U.S. Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) who is a Republican financing the recall drive and hoping to replace Davis, on Monday accused the governor and Democratic Party of pressuring Shelley.

"We fully intend to make sure that he complies with the law," Issa told the Bee of Shelley.

"He (Shelley) has no policy justification for his sort of twisted interpretation of the statute other than a political motivation," Thomas Hiltachk, a lawyer representing Rescue California, the group of recall backers financed by Issa told the Bee. "Even if he takes this bizarre interpretation, my view is it's still going to qualify for a fall election anyway."

Hiltachk added that he's hopeful local elections officials will verify signatures as they receive them.

One of them, Candy Lopez, assistant registrar for Contra Costa County, told the Bee her county already has begun the verification process while acknowledging that the recall law is confusing.

"I could see where people could read the same thing and come to different conclusions," she said. "Sooner or later they're going to have to agree, or somebody's going to have to take somebody to court and have a judge decide what it means. Isn't democracy great?"

The campaign to remove Davis just months after he had been re-elected to a second term is led by Republicans; Shelley, like Davis, is a Democrat. Recall backers must submit 897,158 valid voter signatures by early September to bring on a recall, and they say they've already collected more than that number. As of last week, however, election officials had reported receiving only about 376,000 signatures.

34 posted on 07/01/2003 1:20:04 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy
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