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Acts of God: America's Warning Not to Divide Israel
CBN ^ | June 26, 2003 | Jennifer James

Posted on 06/28/2003 8:49:26 AM PDT by yonif

Since its modern establishment, the state of Israel has been a hotbed of controversy. Jews and Palestinians have long battled over who should rightfully inhabit the land of Israel, a land promised to the Jews 4,000 years ago. In the Bible, the book of Genesis details the covenant God made with the descendants of Abraham.

"On that day, the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying, 'to your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the river of Euphrates.'" - Genesis 15:18.

For more than a decade, America has led attempts to settle that dispute, each time encouraging Israel to bring its covenant lands to the bargaining table, this time with the "Road Map" peace plan. Bible scholars say that may be a costly decision for the U.S. as America again stands at odds with God's covenant promise.

U.S. Consul General Jeffrey Feltman said, "What we need to do now is implement and focus on how we get the two sides back to a political process and towards the vision of a two-state solution: Israel and Palestine living side by side."

On April 30, 2003, America was positioned as the catalyst to jump-start the so-called "solution" to the Middle East crisis. As U.S.-backed Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas was sworn in, the "Road Map" peace plan was set in motion.

The very next day began the worst month of tornadoes in American history, more than 500 in a single month. Normally, 1,000 tornadoes hit the United States each year, but this year, in just eight days in May, 375 twisters ripped across the heartland of America.

While in Israel, Assistant Secretary of State William Burns told a group of left-wing activists that "common sense" would override the conservative and Christian viewpoints concerning the road map.

May 9th, 2003, President Bush addressed students at the University of South Carolina. Bush called on the Palestinians to embrace the road to peace, and see the flag of Palestine raised over a free nation.

Hours later, tornadoes returned and Oklahoma City again became the bulls-eye for deadly twisters, reducing what was left of businesses and homes to splinters and bricks. The tornadoes of May devastated the Midwest with the third worst property damage in American history. Since then, the Road Map has endured a rocky road to June, coinciding with what may be America's most rain-drenched spring in history.

On the East Coast there have been less than 10 rainless weekends the entire year. And in the West, certain crop-eating pests are having their best year in six decades amid dry conditions.

In the early stages of the Road Map peace process, weather catastrophe and recent violence in Israel have competed for the headlines. That violence coupled with America's own battles at home are leading some to question the Road Map. Is there a connection between dividing the Holy Land and utter disruption? Some Bible scholars think so.

In the book of Joel, God warns against dividing the land of Israel. Joel 3:1-2 says, "...I will enter into judgment with them there on behalf of my people and my inheritance, Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations; and they have divided up my land."

Bill Koenig, author of Israel: The Blessing or the Curse, said, "We know for a fact that God gave this land, through the Abrahamic covenant, He gave the land of Israel to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and their descendants, and this land is God's land."

Koenig said the U.S. should not consider such chaos a coincidence. "These are warning signals, these are warning judgements to America that this is My covenant land and it's not to be traded for promises of peace and security. This land is not to be parceled," he said.

In the last 12 years, the U.S. has stepped up its efforts to pressure Israel to give up her covenant lands, several times sharing the spotlight with major storms.

On October 30, 1991, in a meeting scheduled by the first President Bush, Israelis and Palestinians discussed ways to achieve peace in the Middle East. Opening talks focused on trading the lands of Israel for a peace agreement.

That same day, thousands of miles away, a powerful storm was brewing off the coast of Nova Scotia. On October 31st, what would be called "The Perfect Storm" smashed into New England, pummeling the President's Kennebunkport, Maine home with waves 30 feet high. It was a storm so rare that the weather patterns required to create it only happen once every 100 years.

August 23rd, 1992, Middle East peace talks resumed in Washington, D.C. The issue remained surrendering the biblical lands of Judea and Samaria in exchange for peace. Hundreds of miles south, Florida was the target of the worst natural disaster in American history. Hurricane Andrew tore through with an eye more than 30 miles wide and winds up to 178 miles per hour leaving a $32 billion disaster.

Koenig said, "The world leaders have attempted to parcel the covenant land, so as Israel's property and land is at risk, so is the property of the nation that's promoting the peace process. And I might add that the greater the pressure on Israel to give up this property, the greater the repercussions and the greater the following events that take place afterwards."

In the Bible, the prophet Zechariah warned the nations that would come against Jerusalem. "On that day, when all the nations of the earth are gathered against her, I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock for all the nations. All who try to move it will injure themselves," says Zechariah 12:3.

Koenig said, "We have the nations of the world right now siding with the Arabs and the Muslims that are focused on the covenant land, but we know God is standing with the nation of Israel."

Is America playing a dangerous game? As the Road Map peace process encounters resistance, the Bush administration's determination to see it through has escalated.

Secretary of State Colin Powell said, "We have a plan, we have the commitment of leaders and now we have to execute that plan, keep moving forward and not allow ourselves to be distracted or thrown off point, from the promise that's out there with the Road Map, by this surge of violence. We've got to punch our way through it."

But, up against biblical prophecies, Koenig said America is standing against the very Word of God and should expect major obstacles.

"I believe the Lord will allow these events to happen that disrupt the peace process," he said. "As long as you are going to have a terrorist infrastructure that's allowed to co-exist in the nation Israel, we're going to have a problem."

And with those same terrorist groups opposed to America's brand of peace, the future of the Road Map is dim. Israelis maintain they will be relentless to protect their country while all plans to split up the tiny nation may be curbed.

Koenig said, "God loves the nation of Israel. He still, to this day, loves this nation. He is in hot pursuit of the people of Israel. Through these events, we look at the tragedies and we look at the trials, but God's trying to wake up the world."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cbn; divide; god; idf; israel; land; terrorists
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To: yonif
Thanks for the post and along with all the other decay this country is in its a matter of time before God hands this nation over to become slaves.
61 posted on 06/28/2003 4:37:27 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (The Gift is to See the Truth)
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To: ex-snook
That includes the Arabs. So what is the best solution today - One Democratic State with one vote for all, Two separate but equal states, or continuous war with all descendants of Abram claiming their birthright?

You must read more than the one verse. The land covenant most definitely did NOT include the Arabs. The land covenant was with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Arabs descend from Ishmael, Abraham's son by an Egyptian handmaiden, and he was not part of the covenant.

MM

62 posted on 06/28/2003 4:38:33 PM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: MississippiMan
bump
63 posted on 06/28/2003 4:38:50 PM PDT by Louisiana
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To: Simcha7
Splendid biblical explanation, Sim. Well done.

MM

64 posted on 06/28/2003 4:39:59 PM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: Jhoffa_
PS: Have we not helped Israel over and over and over?

Were we not instrumental in getting them the land they have now?

This is gratitude for all the time, effort, money and good will we have sent their way, while the rest of the world detests them?

65 posted on 06/28/2003 4:42:06 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: Simcha7
Interesting post.

Seems to me that it is also written that our Heavenly Father divorced Israel and He Himself sent that stiff necked children of whoredoms into captivity.

He scattered them to the four corners and it will be HE that rejoins those two Houses upon the return of Christ.

Now man does like to try and do what they think and believe that "God" wants them to do, however no one yet on any of these post has mentioned that PARABLE of the FIG TREE.

Also as it is written the anti-christ - the instead of jesus will be none other than the devil himself appearing as the true Christ even down to the scars on his hands.

What will be will be and too many don't have a clue, it is in our Heavenly Fathers hands and time table and Christ first warning to His followers for the sign of His return was not to be deceived, not blood and gore, He said that so long as there were wars and rumors of wars to fear not, these things need be. Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21.
66 posted on 06/28/2003 5:05:36 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Matchett-PI
Thanks.

I believe you covered the meaning of Revalation quite well.
67 posted on 06/28/2003 5:07:42 PM PDT by PFKEY
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To: Simcha7
G-d is at war with Amalek for all generations
68 posted on 06/28/2003 5:09:32 PM PDT by dennisw (G-d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: yonif
If I'm going to burn in hell for wanting peace in the middle east, a stoppage to all the killing, then so be it.
69 posted on 06/28/2003 5:31:58 PM PDT by Quick1
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To: Cacophonous
All the promises given to Israel were promises attached to Christ and inseparable from him. ===

Exactly. None have to speculate on christian belief to use christians to one advantage.
70 posted on 06/28/2003 7:43:21 PM PDT by RusIvan
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To: Matchett-PI; All
In response to your post # 38

Your post was very long...I have went over it carefully...

If you are saying that we are now living in the millenium, then I do not agree with you...
Rev.2:2 "And he laid hold of the dragon,that old serpent,which is the Devil,and Satan,and bound him a thousand years...
Rev:2:3 "And cast him into the bottomless pit,and shut him up,and set a seal upon him, (that he should not deceive the nations no more,)till the thousand years should be fulfilled, and after that he must be loosed a little season."

During the 1000 years Satan will not deceive the nations no more ? Here lies the problem with your millenial theory.
The nations are still being influenced and deceived by Satan now !...I have never know a time when Satan was not in town so to speak.
The millenium will be a time when we are free of Satan's temptation and then he will be allowed to test us one last time at the end of the 1000 years. I believe that the millenium will come after God's judgement and the battle of Armagdon... The 2nd. chapter of Thessalonians also tells us the the anti-christ...A REAL MAN...will defile the temple in Israel that has yet to be built...
Thank God our salvation depends on faith through Jesus Christ and not on what viewpoint we have about bible prophecy.
Well this is my belief anyway...Thank you for sharing your thoughts...



71 posted on 06/28/2003 8:50:08 PM PDT by OREALLY
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To: Cacophonous
God still has a covenant with Israel through Abraham That is what is essential here. Replacement theology does not change that fact.
72 posted on 06/28/2003 9:07:22 PM PDT by hope (Whom the Son sets free is free indeed!)
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To: dennisw
"G-d is at war with Amalek for all generations."

Amen!

Remember Amalek!

73 posted on 06/28/2003 9:13:44 PM PDT by hope (Whom the Son sets free is free indeed!)
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To: MississippiMan
"There are a lot of people who are genuinely saved, yet never touch a Bible. I'll sadly admit to being one of those for a long time myself. Luckily, I've now figured out that you CANNOT lead the Christian life you should without the Bible. That is God's primary way of speaking to us and we need that time with Him. I hope Bush is truly saved, but he shows zero biblical awareness whatsoever that I've been able to tell.

Maybe you can explain to me how he taught Sundad school and overlooked, lying, elevating homosexuality and having no regard for the unborn with his endorsing embryonic stem cell research on the existing embryonic stem cells. It doesn't add up. Youcan't teach Sunday school and NOT know that this is wrong.

Some folks like the label of being a "Christian" but don't abide by teachings. To be a Christian you also need to live the teachings to the best of your ability. Perfection as we both know is impossible but I fail to see Bush even doing the minimum in that department.

74 posted on 06/28/2003 9:49:54 PM PDT by nmh
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To: Norse
">And I happen to think you will be damned for eternity. Not >because you're not Jewish but because of your infernal >bigotry. "

It's most unwise to call the Judeo Christian God a bigot. I'm just paraphrasing His requirement. Being Jewish doesn't matter. It is belief in Jesus Christ that makes the difference with where you will spend eternity. Since paraphrasing offends you, here's the verse to ponder:

John 3:16-18

[16] For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

[17] For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

[18] He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

75 posted on 06/28/2003 9:54:50 PM PDT by nmh
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To: MEGoody
You: "Because he is president of a diverse nation. I agree homosexuality is immoral. It doesn't appear that he's appointed any to positions from which they can significantly impact the political/moral landscape."

Me: These are politically correct excuse and you know it. He appointed atleast TWO homos to postions of authority. COnsdiering that homos make up 1-2% of the ENTIRE population in the U.S., I'd say that is out of line. Will that impact morality - YES! He's suggesting that this is normal and they are equal in judgement to those who are atleast heterosexuals. They are not equal. It's like saying okay so the guy is a thief let's put him in charge of education. In short, you trust the judgement and nor should this person have respect and be put into a position of authority.

"Also if Bush is a born again Christian, WHY did he open pandoras box and okay EMBRYONIC stem cell research AFTER he sent out NUMNEROUS letters to concervative organizations saying he would NOT okay this?"

You: You do realize that Bush only authorized continuing research on the existing stem cell cultures but did not allow the killing of any more embryoes to obtain stem cells, right?"

Me: COrrect - exisiting embryonic stem cells even though he LIED to conservative organizations through letters stating that he WOULD NOT okay this. Besides it is WRONG to do this to begin with. So, he blatently lied and compromised himself on embryonic stem cell research.

He will NOT have my vote next time. I simply have to listen to my conscience.

76 posted on 06/28/2003 10:01:40 PM PDT by nmh
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To: Republic
"God wraps all in His lov."

No doubt about that however if mere fallible mortals reject Him they will NOT spend eternity with Him. May I remind you of:

John 3:16-18

[16] For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

[17] For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

[18] He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

77 posted on 06/28/2003 10:03:56 PM PDT by nmh
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To: yonif

78 posted on 06/28/2003 10:24:58 PM PDT by disclaimer
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To: yonif
Oklahoma City "heavenly" face staring back from the storm clouds...
79 posted on 06/28/2003 10:28:24 PM PDT by disclaimer
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To: Cacophonous
I believe very strongly that Jews and Christians have the same God. We believe the Messiah has come, they do not. Other than that, we have the same scriptures in the Old Test. that they do. Muslims however, do not have the same God in my opinion, not in the religion of Islam.
80 posted on 06/28/2003 10:29:32 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left have blood on their hands.)
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