[pcx99]

Can't. With the US in Afghanistan *AND* Iraq the US is already over-extended on the ground troops and with the world bitching and moaning about our going into Iraq over their objections we're also over-extended on political capital.

If Iran had an organized opposition like the afghanistan warlords we could probably do a covert ops support but although the students are pushing for change they're not organized enough or numerous enough or armed enough to do anything substantial enough for the US to support.

The US may bomb the iranian nuclear facilities but until the situation in Iraq is handed back over to an Iraqi government, I just don't see the US having the resources to force a change in Iran without it being a horrendous disaster both for the Iranian's and the US.

[LibWhacker]

Why? We did you a BIG favor in 1953. Look how you repaid us.

[piasa]

Hello, Khashayer...

The Iranian people have the ability within them, and the means to overcome and take control of their country again. But it will take immense courage from all freedom-loving Iranians to overcome the fear instilled by the few. The people will have to focus, first on a campaign to turn world opinion in their favor. They must make NOISE on the net and with any publications they can put out, on radio if they can get ahold of the means to broadcast; they must be as loud as possible, using the help of Iranians living in the west and independently. You will need to organize and help one another to insure that gangster tactics will no longer be effective, to push where the regime is weakest and so, encourage more Iranians to join. To encourage more people, you have to maintain the moral high ground and that takes good PR prople to explain your case so no one misunderstands your intention. Support those among you who have courage. Don't ever leave them out to dry without coming to their aid; don't let those with courage go up against anyone alone. Just a show of courage will draw people to you. Maintain that courage no matter what happens, and your numbers will grow.

We're already hearing about things going on in Iran now- that's much better than it was just a year ago when so little was getting out, and a few years before when there was almost no mention of Iran at all. So something is working.

The Iranian people DO have the means to win this for themselves. They really do. Of all the nations in the region there are none more suited culturally and educationally to winning their own freedom than Persians. Others on the thread have pointed out that in Iraq and in Afghanistan we had Iraqis and Afghans who had already organized themselves as opposition to their government. Because they were orgasnized, our special forces were able to make contact with them and help train them. Iranians will have to get together to make something comparable, but they have to maintain the moral high ground and police themselves so that it will be difficult for their own government to defame them as terrorists, and difficult for people to justify denying them help.

But let me assure you that you haven't been as alone as you think. We have been in the region for a while, even in Iran. No doubt that there are more people than ever working to help Iran from the outside, many Iranian expatriates who dream of a free Iran for their relatives there. The only difference is that now, we have leadership which believes in following through. Listen to the radio now; the tenacity of the broadcasts will be a good indicator of whether or not we are ready to help.

Ultimately, I think we will have to address the mullah's use of terrorism, because if we don't the Iraqis will not be able to get their government up and running. The current leadership in Iran will try to destabilize it.

[piasa]

Tell us- and spread it all over the net- about everything that is going on in Iran. We've been reading just about every scrap of news we can get and would welcome hearing more.

[Travis McGee]

At this stage, the Iranian freedom fighters above all need GUNS!

Students hiding in rooms cannot resist armed gangs of thugs. But thugs will not be able to do their street terror if they are getting SHOT.

The best way to accomplish this would be for the CIA to smuggle in 100s, then 1000s of pistols and rifles exactly like the ones used by Iranian Police and military forces.

This way, no tie to America can be proven, the weapons will be assumed to have been "liberated" in street fighting.

[Zeroisanumber]

No way. Let them have their own revolution, build their own democracy and fix their own mess. I'm not paying out billions in cash to fix another ME country when we're not even beginning to begin to fix the first one we took over.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

I don't blame you for raising cain! Don't let all the naysaying discourage you! You build leverage for war hawks out here. We can't push for liberation from your evil regime until we have a lot more leverage, which is growing steadilly with time. Keep it up! Raise cain! It helps your cause tremendously to post here on the FR. Keep out of trouble and keep posting as much as you can. Others will certainly turn to violence. Don't join them. You are a vital resource to your cause and must not be harmed. I'll pray to my God for you and your nation to be free. Keep flooding us with info. Add a bookmark to every article you make like this. Try to post a new article here every day or twice a day if that is possible. I'll send you a private message for more tips. GOOD WORK! This is the perfect place for you to be. FReegards....

[milemark]

We will have to deal with Iran, and Syria as well. Those nations can't tolerate a free Iraq on their border and will continuously destabilize our reconstruction efforts there. Sadly, especially for our military forces who must deal with the sneak attacks being sponsored by Iran and Syria, new military action will have to wait until after the 2004 election. Make use of the time by studying the suicidal madness of liberalism so that Iran, if freed from tyranny, may avoid such self destructive political insanity.

[non-anonymous]

...the real fact in Iran is that the mullahs will not go or over thrown with out any military intervention or support from a powerful source.

Iranians do not have a leader.

Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death

Power from the people.

[ItisaReligionofPeace]

Unfortunately, we can't fight everyones battles. They are going to have to take care of it. I wouldn't mind training and providing some weapons though...

[JoeSixPack1]

You tell me why American son's and daughter's should place their lives on the line for you??

Make it good. Your countrymen have spit on us to many times for us to bother. We are not the world's police force, and just because we CAN overthrow your government, does not mean we will or should.

What about the people of Zimbabwe, Cuba, North Korea, China and even the lousy french, they all need new leadership too.

Your best bet is Jimmy Carter. He eats this stuff up. although, he never accomplishes anything, he is a pawn of the UN and does have a nice history with Iran. And if you're lucky Sean Penn will come and visit.

[LibKill]

I sypmathize, but we have our hands full right now.

Besides, you can do it yourselves. You did it before in '76.

A home-grown revolution will be more satisfying to you than being rescued.

[nuconvert]

Khashayar,
The media here has been very slow picking up this story. It has puzzled me and still does. I've sent copies of articles to try to at least get them to announce what's happening on the News. It seems to slowly be appearing in newspapers and on T.V. I'm afraid it will take something horrific, like the execution of protesters, before other news media begin talking more about it. We are aware of what's going on in Iran through daily reports we get on this website. Wish you good luck. We are listening. And will pass your story on to others.

[Lazamataz]

No.

They have to invade us first.

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

I went to university in the 1970's and was in a dormitory with dozens of rude, arrogant and agressive Iranian students. (There was one who actually a pretty nice guy, but he was the exception.) And this was before 1979. My feeling towards Iranians and Iranian students is, I wouldn't pee on you if your face was on fire. (You may be the second exception.)

Why do you presume that the United States wants to be bothered to help you? If we invaded we would be held responsible for establishing something that resembles civil government, something that will not happen in Iran in our lifetimes. And Iranians would have one more excuse - not that need one - to blame all their problems on the United States.

[McGavin999]

Because the Iranian people CAN do this themselves. We believe in them, we believe they can do this, they CAN overthrow the mad mullahs, they CAN turn the military to their side, they WILL have a better future if they do this themselves.

If they do it themselves, they have a much better chance of democracy thriving. Look, democracy is hard, there's no two ways about it, but it's the most superior idiology in the world because it's totally about the people. If they people are incapable of sustaining it, it devolves into majority rules and that's a recipe for disaster. We want Iran to be a strong, prosperous, thriving democracy where everyone has a chance to get ahead. We believe the Persian people have an extraordinary headstart because of their history, they are a natural for democracy. The first requirement of a thriving democracy is a belief in the individual. The "I can do this" attitude is the biggest step toward REAL democracy.

Is it hard? Yes. Do you have to pay the price in blood? Yes. Is it worth it? Yes. We know, we did it, and we know the Iranians can too.

[MattAMiller]

Bush seems to think that Iranians can overthrow the Mullahs on their own. Invasions aren't easy, they cost money, they cost lives, they distract us from other things.

I personally think the Mullahs need to be toppled by any means necessary and I'd support an invasion. But we went out on a limb to liberate Iraq, another war would be politically difficult. But there are a lot of us here who take this very seriously and won't let our government forget about the Iranian people.

[ampat]

We removed Saddam and look how our troops are being treated. Iraqi's should be protecting and assisting our troops in mass, at least in the Shiite areas.

[DoctorZIn]

First, welcome to the FreeRepublic.
As you are learning, we have a lot of strong opinions around here.
But I understand the risks you are taking in posting here and commend your courage.

You raised the question, let me paraphrase it, "Why doesn't the USA come in militarily and support a regime change?" I understand your frustration, I have heard it many times from others Iranians.

Reason #1: Our policy makers have been told repeatedly by Iranians leaders not to have a policy of invasion, but a policy of support of for the people of Iran to end the regime themselves.

Reason #2: It appears most fear that a US invasion of Iran would have the effect of fracturing the support for change that currently exists in your country. Most people tend to rally around their leaders, even bad ones, if they feel they are being invaded.

Reason #3: We have not yet made the case to the world that such an invasion would be legitimate. Our invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq both had international law on our side. The US may act if it feels it must, and is it building a case in the international community for this, ie. the nuclear weapons development issue.

Reason #4: There does not yet exist a leader or organization within Iran that we can work with if such a need were to arise. It would be much easier for us if we were invited in by a legitimate group under attack in Iran.

Please do not misunderstand me. I support your efforts and understand your frustration seeing US troops on the east and west of your country. I think a regime change will likely come when your own military chooses to support a regime change. I think you are right that many in Iran’s military will support the people’s desire for freedom. If and when the do, this will be the turning point. I can only assume that our government is attempting to encourage this in Iran just as we did in Iraq.

BTW, please visit our daily Iranian Thread. We post all significant news on Iran in one place here. There are many there that would love to hear from you.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/937208/posts

DoctorZin

[RightOnline]

No need to invade, my friend. Your countrymen are well on the road to overthrowing their dictatorial leadership. The average American is finally wising up to the fact that a) Iranians are NOT 'Arabs', and are a fine people with a noble past who don't tolerate such dictatorship forever, and b) the average Iranian is NOT happy and would much rather have close relations with the West, especially the U.S.

I'll never forget the fact that it was the Iranian people who demonstrated on behalf of our country after 9-11, unlike the populace of ANY other Middle Eastern country (except for our long-time friends, Israel). That meant a lot to us, and it just spoke volumes about the Iranian people. God bless, and let's hope the overthrow is as nonviolent as possible with little-to-no loss of life. Get rid of the mullahs, and you know you'll have strong friends here in the U.S.

Final thought........................just keep in mind what would happen throughout the rest of the Middle East if we DID invade Iran, no matter how badly you want it. The average Iraqi was ecstatic to see us invade and toss out Saddam Hussein, yet look at the pure hell we've caught as a country from the rest of the world over it. If we did it again................oh my...................