To: Grampa Dave; browardchad; Cindy; Ernest_at_the_Beach; seamole; backhoe; JohnHuang2; Travis McGee; ..
Well, here is another Islamofacist group in Virgina.
...
Makes one wonder if they had any tie ins with the al-Fuqra thugs.
I think you're right G.Dave, I wondered the same thing...
The eight men were arrested in Philadelphia, Baltimore, and Fairfax County, Virginia.
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They also trained in military tactics at a paintball range in Spotsylvania County, Virginia.
Comparing this to the snipers...
- The sniper car was purchased in a suburb of Philadelphia (Camden NJ),
- Muhammad was seen several times in Baltimore,
- the snipers were seen often in Fairfax County,
- the snipers even did two shootings in Spotsylvania County.
I also noticed there are two paintball ranges very near the Spotsylvania shootings.
- One paintball range at 2152 Jefferson Davis Hwy,
- One sniper murder at 5324 Jefferson Davis Hwy,
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- One paintball range at 4415 Plank Road,
- One sniper near-murder at 2900 Plank Road, Spotsylvania Mall,
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If Muhammad/Malvo knew these other eight jihadists, that could help explain their familiarity and attraction to these areas.
It would also give them nearby safe-houses if needed.
The indictment names 11 people, only 8 were arrested:
- Randall Todd Royer, 30;
- Ibrahim Ahmed al-Hamdi, a Yemeni national and non-resident alien;
[reportedly of Annandale VA, 4 miles from Falls Church ] - Masoud Ahmad Khan, 31; [reportedly of Gaithersburg, MD]
- Yong Ki Kwon, 27, a naturalized U.S. citizen born in Korea;
- Mohammed Aatique, 30, a Pakistani national and H-1 visa holder;
- * Seifullah Chapman, 30;
- Hammad Abdur-Raheem, 35; [reportedly of Falls Church, VA]
- Donald Thomas Surratt, 30;
- Caliph Basha Ibn Abdur-Raheem, 29;
- * Khwaja Mahmood Hasan, 27, a naturalized U.S. citizen born in Pakistan; and
- * Sabri Benkhala, 28.
* Chapman, Hasan and Benkhala are believed to be living in Saudi Arabia.
browardchad also pointed out...
The leader [Abdur-Raheem] is a black Gulf War I vet .., just like John Mohammed
I also found that Abdur-Raheem, of Falls Church VA, is ALSO a Washington native, and ALSO converted to Islam in 1994, just like John Allen Muhammad.
Muhammad/Malvo visited
Falls Church VA at least 3 times, and during one of those visits killed the FBI employee.
Siezed from one of the eight persons (Khan) was a "
printout of FBI headquarters"
Gaithersburg is just a few miles from the sniper shootings at Aspen Hill, and Rockville MD.
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I'm nearly CONVINCED Muhammad/Malvo knew this gang, and I wouldn't be surprised if the fed's zeroed in on these Islamists because of contacts or connections with the DC snipers.
To: FL_engineer
correction... The sniper car was REGISTERED in a suburb of
Philadelphia (Camden).
It was supposedly purchased in a town a half-hour to the north of Philly (Trenton).
To: FL_engineer
Good morning FL_, I was also thinking if there is/was a connection with John Mohammed and Iyman Faris, the truck driver double agent recently picked up. When they mentioned that Faris was a truck driver, it made me think about the 18 wheeler that witnesses reported that they saw at the Florida house where Mohammed once or occasionally resided.
21 posted on
06/29/2003 1:07:18 AM PDT by
TexKat
To: FL_engineer; All
Another of the Islamics arrested was Donald Thomas Surratt of Suitland MD, and Temple Hills MD.
Muhammad/Malvo are also known to have been in this area because on September 05 2002, the pair was 5 miles away in Clinton MD and attempted to kill Paul LaRuffa. The snipers stole $3000 and LaRuffa's Sony Vaio laptop computer, which was later found in their blue Chevy Caprice.
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By the way, the tan area is Andrews Air Force base, home of Air Force 1, and the same base that failed to scramble jets for an hour on 9/11. Major Charles Moose was somehow in charge of those jets or pilots on that day.
To: Route66; Peach; Bella; Pete; areafiftyone; brigette; harpseal; Merovingian; Miss Marple; ...
Ping to post #19...
Maryland Sniper ping list
23 posted on
06/29/2003 3:15:21 AM PDT by
Freedom2specul8
(Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
To: FL_engineer
Have to agree; too many connections to be coincidence.
29 posted on
06/29/2003 5:26:39 AM PDT by
katze
To: FL_engineer
Jeepers! Thank you so much for all the information and the heads up!
To: FL_engineer
Looks like a good analysis to me.
34 posted on
06/29/2003 10:46:06 AM PDT by
piasa
(Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
To: FL_engineer; Travis McGee; ladyinred; Clovis_Skeptic; piasa; TexKat; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Shermy
Great tie ins as usual, which is why I pinged you.
It seems like even the conservative media for the most part don't want to get into the al Fuqra mess. Why? These are home grown Islamofacists. For the most part they are Black Muslims with long prison records.
Thanks again for the recaps of the DC Sniper who was a NOI Black Muslim and his murders and near murders during the DC sniping mess.
35 posted on
06/29/2003 10:52:27 AM PDT by
Grampa Dave
(Evil Old White Devil Californian Grampa for big Al Sharpton, Nader Peter Camejo!)
To: FL_engineer
Good info thanks.
40 posted on
06/29/2003 1:08:40 PM PDT by
Dubya
(Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
To: FL_engineer
As always, you're making excellent connections involving these dudes. I have a feeling that they found more on the Sniper's computer than we know.
Watching the Sniper's travelogue, I'd say they were a strictly a "Southern Operation" group. I still believe the snipers are connected to the Anthrax mailings but only as runners. (The Sniper note and the Anthrax letters have MANY similarities.)
46 posted on
06/29/2003 4:13:57 PM PDT by
Sacajaweau
(God Bless Our Troops!!)
To: FL_engineer
This is too close for comfort! Tell you the truth, there's been MORE of these "foreigners" in the Wilkes Barre/Scranton area ALL the time..When the problems were developing, a cop friend told me there was a "group" of these people "rejoicing" in the streets.
50 posted on
06/29/2003 4:26:37 PM PDT by
Bella
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