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RIAA To Sue Individual's for File Sharing (This could mean you!!!!)
Miami Herald ^ | 06/25/2003 | Ted Bridis

Posted on 06/25/2003 6:15:06 PM PDT by jimmccleod

Music Labels Step Up Internet Piracy Hunt
TED BRIDIS
Associated Press

WASHINGTON - The embattled music industry disclosed plans Wednesday for an unprecedented escalation in its fight against Internet piracy, threatening to sue hundreds of individual computer users who illegally share music files online.

The Recording Industry Association of America, citing significant sales declines, said it will begin Thursday to search Internet file-sharing networks to identify music fans who offer "substantial" collections of MP3 song files for downloading.

It expects to file at least several hundred lawsuits seeking financial damages within eight to 10 weeks.

Executives for the RIAA, the Washington-based lobbying group that represents major labels, would not say how many songs on a user's computer might qualify for a lawsuit. The new campaign comes just weeks after U.S. appeals court rulings requiring Internet providers to identify subscribers suspected of illegally sharing music and movie files.

The RIAA's president, Cary Sherman, said tens of millions of Internet users of popular file-sharing software after Thursday will expose themselves to "the real risk of having to face the music." He said the RIAA plans only to file lawsuits against Internet users in the United States.

"It's stealing. It's both wrong and illegal," Sherman said. Alluding to the court decisions, Sherman said Internet users who believe they can hide behind an alias online are mistaken. "You are not anonymous," Sherman said. "We're going to begin taking names."

Shopping at a Virgin Megastore in San Francisco, Jason Yoder was planning to delete file-sharing software he uses from his home computer because of the new lawsuit threat. He acknowledged using the Internet recently to find a copy of a rare 1970s soul recording, but he agreed that illegal downloads should be curtailed.

"It's sort of like a serial drunk driver has to have their license taken away at some point," said Yoder, 30.

Sharman Networks Ltd., which makes the popular Kazaa software and operates one of the world's largest file-sharing networks, said in a statement, "It is unfortunate that the RIAA has chosen to declare war on its customers by engaging in protracted and expensive litigation." Sharman said it was interested in a business relationship with music labels and could protect their songs from illegal downloads using technology.

Country songwriter Hugh Prestwood, who has worked with Randy Travis, Trisha Yearwood and Jimmy Buffett, likened the RIAA's effort to a roadside police officer on a busy highway.

"It doesn't take too many tickets to get everybody to obey the speed limit," Prestwood said.

Critics accused the RIAA of resorting to heavy-handed tactics likely to alienate millions of Internet file-sharers.

"This latest effort really indicates the recording industry has lost touch with reality completely," said Fred von Lohmann, a lawyer for the Electronic Frontier Foundation. "Does anyone think more lawsuits are going to be the answer? Today they have declared war on the American consumer."

Sherman disputed that consumers, who are gradually turning to legitimate Web sites to buy music legally, will object to the industry's latest efforts against pirates.

"You have to look at exactly who are your customers," he said. "You could say the same thing about shoplifters - are you worried about alienating them? All sorts of industries and retailers have come to the conclusion that they need to be able to protect their rights. We have come to the same conclusion."

Mike Godwin of Public Knowledge, a consumer group that has challenged broad crackdowns on file-sharing networks, said Wednesday's announcement was appropriate because it targeted users illegally sharing copyrighted files.

"I'm sure it's going to freak them out," Godwin said. "The free ride is over." He added: "I wouldn't be surprised if at least some people engaged in file-trading decide to resist and try to find ways to thwart the litigation strategy."

The entertainment industry has gradually escalated its fight against piracy. The RIAA has previously sued four college students it accused of making thousands of songs available for illegal downloading on campus networks. But Wednesday's announcement was the first effort to target users who offer music on broadly accessible, public networks.

The Motion Picture Association of America said it supported the efforts, but notably did not indicate it plans to file large numbers of civil lawsuits against Internet users who trade movies online.

MPAA Chief Jack Valenti said in a statement it was "our most sincere desire" to find technology solutions to protect digital copies of movies.

Rep. Howard Berman, D-Calif., who has proposed giving the entertainment industry new powers to disrupt downloads of pirated music and movies, said the RIAA's actions were overdue. "It's about time," Berman said in a statement. "For too long ... file-traffickers have robbed copyright creators with impunity."

The RIAA said its lawyers will file lawsuits initially against people with the largest collections of music files they can find online. U.S. copyright laws allow for damages of $750 to $150,000 for each song offered illegally on a person's computer, but Sherman said the RIAA will be open to settlement proposals from defendants.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: bearshare; filesharing; grokster; kazaa; limewire; morpheus; music; napster; riaa
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To: Jhoffa_
And if everybody is a criminal, who is going to respect the law ?
141 posted on 06/25/2003 9:06:19 PM PDT by John Lenin (Government does not solve problems, it subsidizes them)
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To: John Lenin

That's going to be in your closing arguments, I presume?

142 posted on 06/25/2003 9:07:08 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (Hey you kids, get off my lawn!)
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To: rs79bm
Why is this so different than recording music from the radio also?
143 posted on 06/25/2003 9:08:54 PM PDT by Calpernia (Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for others; Responsibility for all your actions.)
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To: Jhoffa_
Ok, I'll direct that question to directly :)

Why is this different than recording a song from the radio?
145 posted on 06/25/2003 9:10:26 PM PDT by Calpernia (Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for others; Responsibility for all your actions.)
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To: SkooldBiDaStayt

Why the hell should I care?

Look, I'm "locked out" of allot of business opportunities without some kind of networking.. Doesn't give me or anyone else a right to steal.

146 posted on 06/25/2003 9:12:59 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (Hey you kids, get off my lawn!)
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To: Jhoffa_
I can hear it now: "End the WOD (war on downloads) now!"

147 posted on 06/25/2003 9:14:34 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: Calpernia

I don't know about copying songs from the radio.. But the US code says downloading is illegal.

That's all you need to know.

Anything beyond that can be addressed to the court, from the sound of it.

148 posted on 06/25/2003 9:15:09 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (Hey you kids, get off my lawn!)
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To: mylife
No one here intends to rip off printed media


I don't get it. Why are you posting this to me. I don't know anything about copyright laws...I'm outta here.


This whole thing is turning into a bunch of nonsense for a guy who only has about 20 to 30 music files.


How much could they actually sue me for in damages?...not much
149 posted on 06/25/2003 9:15:10 PM PDT by dagoofyfoot
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To: wizzler
I guess I will have to look up the relevent case law, because it's clear to me that you are the one who is completely unfamiliar with it. Because no one seriously argues that making one copy for personal use, or even making a copy for a friend (as long as no money changes hands) is an an actionable copyright infringement! If you distributed hundreds, sure, you might have a case, and I think RIAA has a case against the p2p-ers. These standards are well-established, for all media, from print to video to audio!

Is it illegal to tape a show with your VCR?

Is it illegal to post an article on FR?

Is it illegal to make a copy of a song or songs from a CD for friend, or to listen to in your tape stereo in your car?

No wizzler, it's not! Your absolutist position, shared by RIAA, has no basis in the case law that governs copyright in this country!

Like I said - they have a case against the p2p sharers, at least as near as I can tell they do. But your assertions are wrong, and you are apparently incapable of citing the relevent case law. But let me tell you wizzler, no matter your armchair opinion, the lawyers arguing both sides of this case are going to cite that law, and the judge is going to look to it for guidance. I suspect RIAA's absolutist position will carry little weight with them as they seek to navigate a new course through it. RIAA may win against the most abusive file sharers, but this claptrap you're trying to argue here has absolutely no basis in copyright law!
150 posted on 06/25/2003 9:15:23 PM PDT by motexva
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To: mylife
How much "copyrighted" Material is cut and reposted on FR? I think the courts need to weigh "intent". No one here intends to rip off printed media.

Before even the courts weigh intent, first the companies will. In 99% of the cases (obvious estimate) of material being posted on FR, no claim is made. In the few cases of when that happens, such as the liberal leaning websites including washpost.com whose goal is contrary to FR, a claim may be made.

At which point FR notifies it's user base who become aware of the issue and refuse to knowingly infringe. Clearly (despite my own personal wishes of the issue even existing) this responsibility resides with FR, which they do a great job of, God Bless their souls.

Point is, the problem corrected itself, even when two entities at opposite ends of the political perspective are involved. Could copyright claims increase to the point where FR incurs further claim damages? Possibly, but IMO that ratio is directly related to the quantity of infringement being perpetrated on the internet at large. Theft of music files increases that ratio.

151 posted on 06/25/2003 9:15:56 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Kevin Curry

You know, I hear downloaded music can cure all kinds of things. Maybe we need a medical exemption...

152 posted on 06/25/2003 9:16:25 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (Hey you kids, get off my lawn!)
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To: Jhoffa_
I believe that is what Linux is for :)
153 posted on 06/25/2003 9:16:49 PM PDT by Calpernia (Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for others; Responsibility for all your actions.)
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To: Calpernia
Are you asking why is "file-sharing" is different from recording a song off the radio?

If that's what you're asking, the answer is that it's not. Both are infringements of copyright.

As has been explained already in this thread, one is more apt than the other to be pursued vigilantly by copyright holders, because there's a massive difference of degree and damage.
154 posted on 06/25/2003 9:17:36 PM PDT by wizzler
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To: dagoofyfoot
I posted that as a thought for eveyone. sorry
155 posted on 06/25/2003 9:17:48 PM PDT by mylife
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To: smpc
So, explain that well said concept with a song(s) that are played on the radio....you make cassettes of and distribute to friends, family, et al.
156 posted on 06/25/2003 9:20:28 PM PDT by Calpernia (Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for others; Responsibility for all your actions.)
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To: jimmccleod
What does MP3 mean?
157 posted on 06/25/2003 9:20:33 PM PDT by Old Professer
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To: xm177e2
Yes, this can be done, with a few more steps. Keep the music on a lan access cpu. 'Requests' are sent in, then the music is put in an accessable download as per the request.
159 posted on 06/25/2003 9:22:12 PM PDT by Calpernia (Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for others; Responsibility for all your actions.)
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To: Jhoffa_
How droll.
160 posted on 06/25/2003 9:22:41 PM PDT by Old Professer
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