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I dare call it treason (SLAMMING LIBERALS AND DEMOCRATS BUT GOOD) (Ann Coulter)
World Net Daily ^ | 6/25/2003 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 06/25/2003 4:22:49 PM PDT by TLBSHOW

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To: rudeboy666
...it is obvious that Ann is an intellectual lightweight...

I have to disagree with you there. Now, I will agree that she's not terribly good at face-to-face debating (in fact, she seems to be downright awful at it), but her writing and her research are invaluable. She's a major asset to the conservative community, and I'm sure glad she's on our side.

61 posted on 06/25/2003 8:49:18 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (There is no spoon.)
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To: DPB101
Kalugin, the youngest General of the KGB, began his Soviet spying in the US by infiltrating Columbia University. Why is that?
62 posted on 06/25/2003 8:55:09 PM PDT by HISSKGB
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To: TLBSHOW
Anybody know if Ann Coulter and Catherine Coulter are related? (Both attractive blondes who write)
63 posted on 06/25/2003 9:07:49 PM PDT by budwiesest (I could be wrong, but not when it comes to playing a stand-up bass.)
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To: Cael
Having been an adult throught the entire era, as far as i'm concerned McCarthy didn't go near far enough. He missed a whole lot of Hollywood creeps that should have been put in prison.

What we need today is 100 of him in the Senate!
64 posted on 06/25/2003 9:20:51 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: rudeboy666
it is obvious that Ann is an intellectual lightweight

I'm an intellectual, and Ann Coulter is my better, and the intellectual better of many lettered academics.

And that's quite obvious.

65 posted on 06/26/2003 5:34:10 AM PDT by an amused spectator
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To: VOA
then you'll know that Ms. Coulter (despite all her brains) has maybe "gone a bridge too far" in her claims.

Actually, you will need to take a careful look at alledged victim's life and see what the liberals left out.

66 posted on 06/26/2003 5:59:32 AM PDT by ExpandNATO
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To: Skywalk
"Eccleston"

What ever happened to Jennifer (Breathless)? Haven't seen her around in a long time.

67 posted on 06/26/2003 6:16:05 AM PDT by cibco (Xin Loi... Saddam)
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To: Cael
While I don't agree with your view on McCarthy, I think that people who pay unnessessary attention to when you signed up to FR have no life and no imagination. The idea that the date on which you became a computer-nerd validates your point or opinion is idiotic. I did not read the rest of the thread, but I see that a bunch of pilers-on got you suspended. A word of advice: Write a big check to FR at the next fundraiser. Then you can say whatever you like and get those who disagree with you gagged.
68 posted on 06/26/2003 6:37:53 AM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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To: TLBSHOW
There were, admittedly, a few rare and striking exceptions to the left's overall obtuseness to communist totalitarianism. John F. Kennedy's pronouncements on communism could have been spoken by Joe McCarthy.

An interesting fact is that JFK's father, Joe P. Kennedy, Ambassador to the Court of St. James, the one that Winston Churchill dismissed and sent back to FDR, was an avid supporter of Joe McCarthy, including him in Kennedy Family Events and arranged for Bobby Kennedy (RFK) to be on McCarthy's staff. Even though Joe P. Kennedy was a vocal supporter of Hitler, he hated Communism. This probably explains why JFK said the things he said about Communism, but fails to explain why he betrayed the Bay of Pigs and did not take pre-emptive action to stop the placement of MRBM/IRBM's during the Cuban Missele Crisis...rto

69 posted on 06/26/2003 7:06:51 AM PDT by visitor (Thank God George Bush Won)
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To: presidio9
that democrat-rat is zapped but good..
70 posted on 06/26/2003 7:09:28 AM PDT by TLBSHOW (The Gift is to See the Truth)
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To: Vision Thing
I think everytime TCM or AMC shows a "documentary" on the "innocent and persecuted Hollywood Ten", they keep the "witch hunt" myth alive. Show me a documentary on any of the Hollywood communists that actually says the subject did in fact, happen to be a communist.

They always say he or she was "persecuted for their beliefs", but they never come out and say that these people were card-carrying members of the Soviet Communist Party. You'd think they would adopt the Seinfeld approach like "OK, Garfield was a Communist...not that there's anything wrong with that!" They never do that though. They just say he had "unpopular views" and was persecuted for not naming names or some such rot.

71 posted on 06/26/2003 7:26:41 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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To: Sans-Culotte
wonder what babs striesand is readin today...Treason or Hillary's Lies?
72 posted on 06/26/2003 10:24:18 AM PDT by y6162
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To: Sans-Culotte
wonder what babs striesand is readin today...Treason or Hillary's Lies?
73 posted on 06/26/2003 10:24:19 AM PDT by y6162
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To: Cael
Forgive me if I don't immediately believe that McCarthyism was a completely noble time for our country...

Like most folks, I have been conditioned to accept that McCarthy was some kind of maniacal bigot--with only a few samples of incomplete antidotal evidence. Now as someone who knows little about the facts--except the only conclusion I am supposed to have, I hear there is another view from someone who I have found to be very has ostensivly done a lot of research, and whom has earned a good deal of credibility as a leading conservative commentator.

Should I read further and seek the facts that Ann presents in her book, or should I just go on accepting the prejudice that I was indoctrinated into while I was growing up?

74 posted on 06/26/2003 1:14:18 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: Cael
Forgive me if I don't immediately believe that McCarthyism was a completely noble time for our country...In her book, does she give specific examples of people who, according to liberal history accounts, were wrongly targeted by McCarthyism...but were in actuality (from her opinion) *rightly* targeted? She seems kind of vague in the excerpt...

What a useless post!

Are you dyslexic?

Have daddy buy you the book, then have mommy read it to you.

Then, unless you are retarded and have a profound comprehension problem, you can answer the question all by yourself!.

yes, I did notice that you just joined FR... have a nice trip...

75 posted on 06/26/2003 1:26:49 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Californians are as dumm as a sack of rocks)
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To: presidio9
While I don't agree with your view on McCarthy, I think that people who pay unnessessary attention to when you signed up to FR have no life and no imagination. The idea that the date on which you became a computer-nerd validates your point or opinion is idiotic. I did not read the rest of the thread, but I see that a bunch of pilers-on got you suspended. A word of advice: Write a big check to FR at the next fundraiser. Then you can say whatever you like and get those who disagree with you gagged.

I really appreciate having dissenting opinions on here, and agree that the folks making an issue of Cael's sign up time here on FR is not relevant.

I am really anxious to ask those that are in the know about the details of evil McCarhism: What was the death toll? Probably more then the 100 mil or so Communism killed huh.

76 posted on 06/26/2003 3:32:31 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: rudeboy666
it is obvious that Ann is an intellectual lightweight

Strongly disagree. I am considered by most folks that know me to be very intellegent as well as pragmatic. Ann is among the short list of columnists who have my respect as being much sharper than I in both areas.

On a side note, a major reason that conservative intellectuals dominate over their liberal counterparts in talk radio and political books--is that conservatives can recognize and respect those that earn it, where liberals resent those that earn it. I want to read Ann's book, and listen to folks like Limbaugh and Walter Willaims et al because they have earned my respect by being accurate and insightful--which are traits that seem abbandoned by the Left whose members seem engrossed in ego stroking themselves by bringing down the best and brightest among us.

77 posted on 06/26/2003 3:53:07 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: Cael
Welcome to the FR. =]

I understand it can come as a shock that McCarthy might actually have had some truth to back him up. At the same time, there is a dispute that he might have used the wrong number of communists in his first announcement-- beaurocrats who also belonged to the Communist Party. Naturally, being a member of the Communist Party made someone a security risk, but Truman, and even FDR in some cases, gave hundreds if not thousands of card carrying communists security clearance. There was a specific instance mentioened by Coulter regarding both former DNC presidents who were actually warned that 'so-and-so' was a Soviet spy, and they got promoted anyway!

But, McCarthy had some problems of his own. His last head advisor really messed him up-- permanently. It was ugly. Ike turned against him in the end.

While it's good to set the record straight about McCarthy, it would be foolish to go overboard about it. McCarthy made himself an easy target. It's really sad because he cared about the USA, and he sacrificed a lot in this private war against Soviet infiltration. If he had won more victories, we would be much better off today.

On the other side of the coin, his last advisor was a scheming creep who tried to bully the military into promoting and transferring his homosexual partner. That really made things difficult for McCarthy, you could imagine.

FReegards....
78 posted on 06/26/2003 6:20:13 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (LIBERTY or DEATH!)
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To: All; Ann Coulter; anncoulteriscool
Ann is the Savage Nation right now...

BUMP
79 posted on 06/26/2003 6:22:14 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (The Gift is to See the Truth)
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To: VOA
"...someone who was falsely accused by McCarthy..."

McCarthy was dealing with the big picture and security clearance policy, as I understand it. Numbers of communist members, rather than names. He did put down a decorated WWII veteran, unfairly, since the veteran was under orders by Ike to remain silent. But I'd hardly say that the soldier's life was destroyed.

FReegards....
80 posted on 06/26/2003 6:29:18 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (LIBERTY or DEATH!)
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