"Prevention and treatment should focus on managing conflict and aggression for both young men and women," Capaldi says. Each needs to understand the role both play while still putting a "special responsibility" on the man, who can inflict greater injury.
--The woman may be equally at fault in the situation but the men are somehow still responsible and need special punishment because they can cause more damage by virtue of their physical abilities... tell you what: give a woman a knife and see what she does with it.
The researchers emphasize they are not blaming women. "We are not saying anybody is at fault," says psychologist Miriam Ehrensaft of Columbia University. "But new data is emerging that says women are also involved in aggression. If we do not tell women that, we put them at risk."
--no of course not, saying that women are at fault sometimes is not politically correct, so we say in cases like that, Its a no fault thing, guess what the guy is still going to get arrested and thrown in the can even if she started it.
Where are all the male victims?" It is women, she says, who are subjected to "systematic terrorism."
--Men are usually too ashamed to report being "beaten up by a girl" while women in this twisted game are all too often awarded points for being the victim.
--Just had to rant on this one.
To: BudgieRamone
Many researchers' findings in earlier, government-financed studies emphasize the man's role. ,,, crucial in the creative statistics game.
REPEAL THE NINETEENTH AMENDMENT!
3 posted on
06/23/2003 5:16:49 PM PDT by
elbucko
To: BudgieRamone
You're right....
5 posted on
06/23/2003 5:25:09 PM PDT by
GOP_1900AD
(Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
To: BudgieRamone
I categorically agree with your rant!
8 posted on
06/23/2003 5:38:02 PM PDT by
Old Sarge
(Serving the Home Front on Operation Noble Eagle!)
Big Duh! ALERT
I hope they didn't spend too much money on this.
10 posted on
06/23/2003 5:54:53 PM PDT by
TankerKC
(Take the time it takes, so it takes less time.)
To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Rita Smith of the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence is not convinced that men are afraid of abusive women. "That fear is a critical factor in any domestic violence situation. And the abuse is part of an ongoing pattern to control someone else's behavior."This is the kind of thing I was just kidding about earlier today.
Things have to be getting pretty bad when one of the "problems" is that men just aren't fearful enough of being subjected to domestic violence. I've only been involved in one relationship in which someone tried to get violent, and it wasn't me. And, as far as I was concerned, that relationship ended that day.
How can people live like that?
11 posted on
06/23/2003 5:57:42 PM PDT by
Scenic Sounds
(Just trying to escape this ugly June gloom, these clouds in A minor, and this vague sense of doom.)
To: BudgieRamone
I'll give any woman one free shot. When she comes back for a second, she then has a fight.
I might get beat, I might not, but no person gets two free shots.
18 posted on
06/23/2003 6:40:24 PM PDT by
Just another Joe
(FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
To: BudgieRamone
It is absolutly true that women can be abusive.
A close relative of mine was abused by his wife for over 30 years. She constantly put him down, kept him from his friends and family, and controled him. He was a successful businessman but he had to sneak out to see his grandchildren.
After he retired it got much worse because he no longer had an excuse to leave the house without her.
At the end of his life, he had to have brain sugery and afterwords, his wife checked him out of the hospital early. She kept food from him and refused to let a doctor visit him at home.
The family kept trying to get him to leave and offered to take him in so he could be away from her, but he refused. I think that he may have almost forgotten that he could live without her.
There are evil women as well as evil men.
24 posted on
06/23/2003 7:38:43 PM PDT by
Igraine
To: BudgieRamone
My dad told me my whole life that,
"No man should EVER hit a woman, men are bigger and stronger and could really hurt a woman. NO MAN SHOULD EVER HIT A WOMAN...
unless she hits him first".
Something I have ALWAYS remembered.
BTW...I'm female!
29 posted on
06/23/2003 9:13:21 PM PDT by
M0sby
To: BudgieRamone
The number of women who hit first or hit back is "much greater than has been generally assumed," Capaldi says.Just ask Hillary, the smartest woman ever to be First Whatever, the known authority on all domestic issues per the above. Ask her how much power she felt the first time she whalloped on Blubba and he cowered, caved, squealed like a stuck pig. She knew she had him for life, right then, right there. No matter how egregious his sins. She had him.
To: BudgieRamone
31% of U.S. women report being physically or sexually abused by a husband or boyfriend. I've been sexually assaulted by my wife on a number of occasions. Not that I'm complaining or anything....
31 posted on
06/24/2003 12:09:07 AM PDT by
freebilly
(I think they've misunderestimated us....)
To: BudgieRamone
--Men are usually too ashamed to report being "beaten up by a girl" while women in this twisted game are all too often awarded points for being the victim. Men also know that if the cops come they will be the ones arrested, regardless of who started the fight.
33 posted on
06/24/2003 1:45:07 AM PDT by
Hugin
To: BudgieRamone
Longing for the good old days when men were men, and thumped those that stepped out of line, including wives and children.
34 posted on
06/24/2003 2:47:06 AM PDT by
exnavy
To: BudgieRamone
31% of U.S. women report being physically or sexually abused by a husband or boyfriend. 30% of Americans know a woman who was physically abused by her husband or boyfriend in the past year. Sorry these number don't pass a smell test.
35 posted on
06/24/2003 2:50:48 AM PDT by
Fzob
(Why does this tag line keep showing up?)
To: BudgieRamone
I guess the pracitical advice I take from this is, if a woman hits you, don't hit back...
just walk out the door, cool off and spend the night at an old girlfriend's house.
:o)
36 posted on
06/24/2003 5:04:28 AM PDT by
Maximum Leader
(run from a knife, close on a gun)
To: BudgieRamone
Feminists see men as "dhimmi", hence no facts or reason will move them from their misandrist mantra..
To: BudgieRamone
Rita Smith of the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence is not convinced that men are afraid of abusive women. "That fear is a critical factor in any domestic violence situation. And the abuse is part of an ongoing pattern to control someone else's behavior." An abuser is an abuser. A woman's psychological abuse can be as bad as physical abuse.
A woman can throw the first punch, then dare the man to hit her back, with him knowing that if he touches her, she has an excuse to have him arrested, divorce him for "abuse", take his assets, and a good chunk of his future income.
Men are stronger than women, on average, but that doesn't mean that a man isn't vulnerable to being hit with a lamp, knifed, or shot
41 posted on
06/24/2003 7:05:50 AM PDT by
SauronOfMordor
(Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer looking for next gig)
To: BudgieRamone
Rant on, Budgie! It's about time the true picture was revealed.
Two of my brothers dated abusive women. They would hit them, kick them, physically assault them, and then cry like babies if my brothers made any defensive moves (not hitting back, but even pushing them away was considered "abuse"). Thankfully, they both moved onto greener pastures and these nutjobs were sent packing.
That's not to say some men are lower than snakes - some are, I have first hand experience. But this demonization of men in total has got to stop!
To: BudgieRamone
Rita Smith of the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence is not convinced that men are afraid of abusive women. "That fear is a critical factor in any domestic violence situation. And the abuse is part of an ongoing pattern to control someone else's behavior."Rita Smith is full of it. Not causing fear is no excuse, does not make it any less violence nor any less reprehensible. Not that I'm such a great guy, but I've never hit a woman or girl in my life, not even any of my three sisters & I'd be severely disappointed in any woman who had so little self control that she repeatedly resorted to physical violence.
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