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1 posted on 06/21/2003 10:05:48 PM PDT by freedom44
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one of the best i've ever read.

on or off iran ping
2 posted on 06/21/2003 10:07:25 PM PDT by freedom44
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Shocking Silence from the Left on pro-Democracy Iranians <P) No. This is not shockking. Here, let me explain in simple grunts. All socialists are collectivists All Muslims are collectivists. Therefore Muslims are socialists. So, why would a socialist act different than a Muslim?
3 posted on 06/21/2003 10:15:40 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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Andrew Sullivan bump!

4 posted on 06/21/2003 10:15:43 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Has anyone seen my tagline? It's around here somewhere...)
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1. the american and european left hate america. iran embarassed america, therefore, in this primitive kind of thinking, iran is good. also, incoming president reagan beat president carter to the hostages making carter look badly. the left hasn't forgotten.

2. these iranian young people aren't old enough to remember or identify with the iranian revolution of the 1970s. they see their iranian relatives in america living the good life.

i have iranian friends. they're middle class. they took their money out of iran in order to protect it from the mullahs. the educated iranian middle class hates the mullahs and their stupid religion.
6 posted on 06/21/2003 10:16:00 PM PDT by liberalnot (what democrats fear the most is real democracy. /s)
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Applause!!! Well said, sad but true.
9 posted on 06/21/2003 10:17:43 PM PDT by TUX
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The left is so hate filled that even good news is repugnant to them if it doesn't fit with their whining.
10 posted on 06/21/2003 10:18:44 PM PDT by Bullish
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This is the first Sullivan piece I can ever recall having read and not at some point or another thought he was a complete idiot.

Great article.

12 posted on 06/21/2003 10:21:08 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: freedom44
nothing shocking. the left hates freedom
13 posted on 06/21/2003 10:21:51 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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Let's hope the left comes to its senses before the revolution is over.

Why? The cause of freedom will be best served if the left humiliates themselves so thoroughly that they have no influence whatsoever in American politics.

16 posted on 06/21/2003 10:27:37 PM PDT by Joe Bonforte
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I think that's about right. The left would rather see Bush and America defeated than the Iranian's freed. It is a matter of priorities.
18 posted on 06/21/2003 10:43:34 PM PDT by jlogajan
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Marvelous article! I am going to pass this around to enlighten others.
19 posted on 06/21/2003 10:50:39 PM PDT by KittyKares
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What the left doesn't report, doesn't happen. When Pol Pot was murdering millions, the three networks mentioned Cambodia 30 times on the nightly news--over the course of three years. About 3 mentions per network, per year. Total coverage from 1975 to 1978 for the murder of plus or minus two million people was under one hour of air time--for CBS, NBC and ABC combined.1
21 posted on 06/21/2003 11:04:34 PM PDT by DPB101
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This isn't ANY surprise. Have you ever tried to have a coherent, logical and factual argument with a liberal Democrat about foreign policy?

They look at the world through pink "America is Bad" glasses.

Things like liberty, freedom, and justice must somehow be tools the US uses to subjugate poor people in other countries. Therfore, what is happening in Iran will not come on their radar screen until the US steps into help.

Then America will be "corrupting" the Democratic process in Iran.

22 posted on 06/21/2003 11:39:36 PM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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What else can you expect from the children of Stalin?
23 posted on 06/22/2003 12:35:28 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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"Much of the antiwar left has sadly long since stopped caring about the actual freedom of people under oppressive regimes..."

If we deleted "much of" I'd say I agree with him 100%.

"If you want to understand better why the American left has been losing every debate it has joined recently, you could do worse than observe its indifference to the fight for freedom in Iran."

Now, here he's got it exactly right. The left, in America is now depleted of all but the Commies and the cranks, nobody there buy baby killers and sodomites.

Sorry, but that's the way it is. Eleanor Roosevelt must be rolling in her grave.
24 posted on 06/22/2003 1:43:32 AM PDT by jocon307 (You think I exagerate? You don't know the half of it!)
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The question is: Why? Could anyone on the left actually sympathize with the sexist, homophobic, anti-Semitic theocrats in Tehran?

For much of the left this trumps all

25 posted on 06/22/2003 4:35:59 AM PDT by Valin (Humor is just another defense against the universe.)
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Sullivan, and Christopher Hitchens have had their eyes opened to the true colors of the left - at least as far as our foreign policy in the ME. They seem to understand, finally, that the left is no friend to freedom loving people anywhere.

It has been an enjoyable experience to read and listen to their views on this subject the last year.
27 posted on 06/22/2003 5:05:41 AM PDT by baseballmom
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It works like this: The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Leftists consider America their enemy, and thus the Ayatollahs are their friends.
28 posted on 06/22/2003 6:23:14 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/933550/posts

MARK STEYN: May the ayatollah go the way of Saddam
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | June 22, 2003 | MARK STEYN


It's mullah time! The question now is whether Iran's ayatollahs and the original ''Islamic republic'' can survive the summer, or whether President Bush will mark the second anniversary of Sept. 11 with two-thirds of his axis of evil consigned to the trash can of history.
29 posted on 06/22/2003 6:37:39 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (It's Elimination of Mullahs's time! Support the regime change in Iran!)
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It's quite simple; the students/protesters have made it clear that they don't see the US as the great satan,
but rather as a model to emulate, and a potential friend and ally (once the mullahs are gone).

To support the demonstrators would put the left on the same side as the US, which the left
hates and is working to destroy. Illogical.

31 posted on 06/22/2003 8:12:42 AM PDT by MrNatural (...Head for the roundhouse, Nelly; he'll never corner you there...)
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