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Mein Gott! America is the new Germany
The Times (U.K.) ^ | 06/21/03 | Matthew Parris

Posted on 06/20/2003 4:27:04 PM PDT by Pokey78

Germans are America’s big ethnic secret. No people and no culture has contributed more to what the United States is and is becoming. In the nation’s ethnic tangle, no root runs deeper than German America. As a scattered community only fitfully conscious of its own existence, none has more successfully pursued wealth, power and intellectual influence. And as a philosophical force in US politics — a whole political mindset — none has greater potency. Germany as a European state may have lost her way, the German language may struggle to keep its world grip, but the German spirit is alive and well and living in — and through — America: Bismarck’s last laugh on modern history.

Yet from new Labour to the Tory Right, the British Establishment has fallen in love with the reincarnation of our former European enemy, even as our Europeanism sours. Across much of conservative Britain, an embrace with America is welcomed as a healthy, English-speaking alternative to the sinister advance of the Franco-German axis.

Why? It is understandable that the British do not feel towards America the visceral distrust that continental Europe arouses. Americans speak English. Their invasions have been peaceful. We remember the Mayflower, the Founding Fathers, and the familiar English surnames of almost all the Presidents until Roosevelt. We remember, too, that the United States did (after a slight hiccup) support us against Germany in both world wars, and we take vicarious pride in seeing another great English-speaking country — once ours — stride the globe: imperialism by proxy. We count the Americans as our cousins. These world-beaters are our kith and kin, are they not?

No, they are not. America’s cousins are the Germans. This is true literally — in blood lineage — but also the personalities of the two nations. Modern America has become more Germanic than it is British. The New England aristocracies are pushed aside, Mittelamerika rides high, yet few notice and still fewer discuss the Teutonic phase the country is now entering. A common language — English — overlays deep cracks in the collective American psyche, blurring the outline of a vast community so submerged that its members have all but lost consciousness of what they have in common: an outlook.

Everybody knows about the blacks and the Hispanics (each about 10 per cent of the population in the 1990 US Census). Irish-Americans are slightly less than 16 per cent. Those of broadly English origin are even fewer — some 13 per cent. Italian-Americans are 6 per cent. But nearly a quarter (23.3 per cent) of all Americans are of predominantly German origin. They are easily the biggest single ingredient in the New World melting pot. Financially and politically they are also among the most successful. Were the pie chart to be adjusted according to wealth, the German-American share would grow further. A roll-call of the names of elected congressmen (or the presidents of the great US corporations) sounds like the calling of the register in a Bavarian kindergarten. As for the power of ideas, the US academic and research world is stuffed with German-descended talent.

After the Holocaust, it may be tactless to mention the flowering in the New World of the union between the German and the Jewish traditions, but the fruits have been extraordinary and America has been the beneficiary. The energy and genius of this small community has earned it an influence beyond its numbers. The cultural inheritance of German-Jewish immigrants was a powerful hybrid, and the inheritance is fresh because the wave came late. Names such as Wolfowitz, Perle or Fleischer are only recently famous: but the political and academic contribution is long-standing, and so is the contribution to the national media. The most recent issue of The Economist argues that the philosopher Leo Strauss, who fled the Holocaust for the US, is the leading intellectual influence on the neoconservatives in Washington.

German America hardly amounts these days to a community: it is almost too predominant to know itself. Its ancestors were among the earliest citizens of their emerging New World nation: they came early — before the Revolution and immediately after. They learnt to see themselves as Americans rather than look back. They have had time to assimilate. The days when (for example) the State of Pennsylvania almost made German its official language are gone. In what some might call a thoroughly Teutonic manner, many German-American families wiped their family slates clean of the old language and kinships and invested unstintingly in their new loyalty. Kurt Vonnegut, in his autobiographical Palm Sunday, says: “My parents volunteered to make me ignorant and rootless as proof of their patriotism.”

Indeed, you could argue that one reason German America has been in the driving seat has been that German-Americans have been so ready to forsake a separate identity, assume a new one, and push on. Many even Anglicised their names, further complicating the statistics.

Still, the roll-call of names is impressive, Donald Rumsfeld’s being only a latecomer to the pack. George W. Bush’s partly German ancestry — Amish and Mennonite through the Demuth family, who were 18th-century immigrants from Saxony — is well-known. Surnames (if you seek them) tumble from the books of modern American history — Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Kissinger.

But this argument is not about amassing names or imagining conspiracies. Americans’ ancestries are a hotchpotch, and which surname a US citizen ends up with can be haphazard, saying little about his family’s active cultural inheritance. There is no membership and no plot. What there is is a confluence of successful citizens with shared ways of looking at the world, helping to shape a national personality. In a family-centred society, culture, taste and attitude are heritable down the generations long after folk memories of the old country are gone. A German-descended American friend of mine from Pennsylvania said: “I went to Berlin and took a train to Prague. The food was the food I grew up with — meat, sausage, potatoes and cabbage. The houses outside the cities looked American, with unwalled gardens of grass around detached, single family homes. It was spooky."

Spookier for me has been reading the way German statesmen used to talk, and listening to the way Donald Rumsfeld talks now. Italian and Irish America have made their own distinctive mark on political life in the US. It would be surprising if Germanic attitudes were not contributing in different ways.

What are these? In an article in The New Republic two years ago, Peter Beinart suggested the following qualities as typical of the German American in politics: “earnest”, “strait-laced” and “disciplined”. Voters, he adds, “like politicians, are often products of political traditions they do not fully comprehend. And those political traditions often have their origins in an America more ethnically segmented than it is today.”

To Beinart’s list I would add the work ethic and energy — never something that the British Establishment has been sure it wholly admired. In March 1990, Margaret Thatcher summoned to Chequers a team of historians, academics and specialists to advise her on a unified Germany’s long-term intentions and abiding characteristics. A leaked memo quoted: “Angst, aggressiveness, assertiveness, bullying, egotism, inferiority complex, sentimentality and capacity for excess.” I would add these: candour; a yearning for structure and direction; impatience with ambiguity; a weakness for approaching problems in a blindly, sometimes self-defeatingly, methodical way; and overconfidence.

I do not find all these qualities unattractive. I love the sudden directness of Germans; I share their hankering for road maps in life; I admire bullishness; and I think an instinct to impose theory and system on a haphazard world marks a high order of intelligence. Notwithstanding the caveats one must enter about all generalisation, I cite these assessments neither to praise nor condemn, but as contributing to a national personality.

But is it not uncannily like George W. Bush’s America? Is it not as close an approach as we are likely to get to a definition of the neoconservative personality? And has the Tory Right removed continental Germans from the party’s guest list, only to welcome their reincarnation from across the Atlantic?

Out goes Vorwärts! and in comes Yee-ha! Somebody should whisper in Britain’s ear: America is the new Germany.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Germany; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
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To: Maelstrom
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201 posted on 06/22/2003 6:42:01 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: DoctorMichael
Danke, Herr Doktor. I discounted the author's paranoia.
202 posted on 06/22/2003 6:46:18 AM PDT by ffusco ("I don't care about the Italians (in America)" Franklin Delano Roosevelt 1942)
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To: ffusco
.....discounted the author's paranoia.....

LOL. Paranoia? How about blatant racial stereotyping and predjudice?

203 posted on 06/22/2003 6:57:32 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (We don't need no stinking taglines!)
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To: DoctorMichael
Allied propaganda during the war has created some enduring myths- such as Polish stupidity, Teutonic Creulty, and Italian cowardice. LOL
204 posted on 06/22/2003 8:00:26 AM PDT by ffusco ("I don't care about the Italians (in America)" Franklin Delano Roosevelt 1942)
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To: Chi-townChief
I don´t agree. One cannot say that "Americans learned lessons of 20th century far better than Europeans".

Europeans have made other conclusions. As a Canadian said today "Americans like war, for them brave participation in a war counts - the winner or loser is irrelevant". And he is right: Americans have no problem to hesitate when it comes to the decision wether one should start a war. Europeans reject war in general, and maybe the term "war" is wrong. Nobody would compare WW2 with Operation Iraqi Freedom - although both are called a war. The Iraq war should not have been called a war. It was a limited military action, not a war in the sense of the last century. Generally, the acceptance of military actions against sovereign countries is higher in the US than in Europe.

And, to give you a chance to comment it:

It is contradictory to say on the one hand that international agreements are irrelevant (besides the USA refer to their sovereignty) and on the other side to ignore the sovereignty of other countries arbitrarily.

Who should decide then whether a war is entitled against a country? The war-leading country? Or perhaps, nevertheless, an international community? The precedence Iraq is dangerous.
205 posted on 06/22/2003 10:33:19 AM PDT by Michael81Dus (D´OH !!!)
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To: Michael81Dus
The Canadian you quote is very stupid and full of scheiss. Americans always have tried to stay out of war and have generally only gone to war as a result of other countries' mistakes, bailing Europe out in WWI, WWII, the Suez crisis, the Berlin crisis, the Cold War, and, most recently, in the Balkans. And you and I both damn well know that if it wasn't for the presence of our troops in Germany for the last 50+ years, the Europeans would continually be at each other throats. Before the American presence, Europeans just couldn't wait to start killing each other. Americans learned from our Civil War the futility of that kind of conduct.

Saddam Hussein was not only in violation of international agreements but also the 1991 peace agreement and should have been dealt with 10 years ago and, had we not foolishly elected Bill Clinton, he probably would have been; quite unlike with Hitler in 1935, when Europe did nothing as Germany rearmed. People who call the war in Iraq "unprovoked" and "preemptive" are either shallow-minded fools or liars.
206 posted on 06/22/2003 1:19:06 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Pokey78
Parris does a little more research than most British columnists would, but the result is still quite superficial -- and in some things downright erroneous. German-Americans have been fully assimilated. What made America different from Britain is what made Australia or Canada different: first of all, the frontier, the freedom of frontier life, and the absence of hereditary class distinctions, and secondly, immigration from other countries. Add to this the facts that Americans actually rebelled against the British and overthrew them, and that we are large enough and powerful enough to make our own way in the world in a way that Canada or Australia or New Zealand aren't.

Is Leo Strauss the dominant figure among today's neo-conservatives? Is he symptomatic of a German influence on today's America? Allan Bloom, the Straussian who attacked Weimar's influence on contemporary America, must be laughing somewhere at the question. Strauss had no reason to love Nazi Germany. Like Hannah Arendt or Hans Morgenthau, very different thinkers, Strauss could be regarded as both a critic and a product of Wilhelmine and Weimar Germany. It might appear sensible for an Englishman to take all three thinkers and others besides as representatives of German influence, but to do so would be to overlook the real differences between such thinkers.

The migration of German intellectuals to America (and Britain) certainly had an effect, but just what was "German" about their thinking is a hard question to answer. At any rate, taking Arendt, Morgenthau and Strauss as representative figures, it looks like oversimplifying things and taking German influence as a homogeneous thing with a single direction is a great mistake.

What I think is at work here is the "Dr. Strangelove" phenomenon, in which certain attitudes on defense and other political matters are automatically associated with Germany. You could see this a work in discussion of Kissinger, also with Haldeman and Erlichman or James Schlesinger. Unfortunately, there isn't much rational ground for the association. Germans, and consequently German-Americans have been left holding the bag for ideas that were very common throughout Europe when there were great powers there. The idea that France and Britain didn't practice Realpolitik in their rise to power is naive and foolish.

207 posted on 06/22/2003 5:07:43 PM PDT by x
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To: Chi-townChief
I think you made a fault in your judgement: you related the comment on the justification of wars, which was not the matter. The issue was the attitude about war, not the necessity of it.
Europeans are maybe the most peace-loving people on earth. The attitude of these many peaceniks reminds me of a little white rabbit, sitting on the green and waiting for the hawk to come and eat it. Recently I had a discussion about N Korea: a peacenik called for a "massive threat with the use of armed forces against N Korea" - and when I asked "now that you call for a threat, would you use the forces when N Korea refuses to fulfill your conditions?" he answered "No, of course not". What is a threat worth for if you are not willing to go the last step? Short-sighted!!

208 posted on 06/22/2003 11:33:51 PM PDT by Michael81Dus (D´OH !!!)
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To: Michael81Dus
"Europeans are maybe the most peace-loving people on earth."

I suppose that would depend on which Europeans you are talking about.
209 posted on 06/23/2003 4:41:54 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: KellyAdmirer
Incidentally, there used to be a big German community in NYC in the East Village, but it split up after a major ferry boat disaster killed scores of their children on an outing. I guess that caused them to spread out and "take over."

That ferry accident killed many mothers in that community, not just the children.

I live in Yorkville, which used to be another large German community, and I am told that the remnant of that parish was absorbed up here, by a church that still holds a mass in German (even though most of the German speakers have moved away or died of old age).

210 posted on 06/23/2003 5:04:12 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: Chi-townChief
Not me!! ;-)
211 posted on 06/23/2003 6:00:55 AM PDT by Michael81Dus (D´OH !!!)
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To: Michael81Dus
Good to see a representation of the sane Germany.

Is the Conservative movement in Germany gaining any ground?
212 posted on 06/23/2003 9:54:00 AM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.)
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To: CyberCowboy777
Hi.

"Gaining ground"?

Lokes like it does. We have some usual inner-party-animousities, but in polls, we´re far leading (45-48% for my party, Schröder´s SPD is at 30%).

213 posted on 06/23/2003 11:08:57 AM PDT by Michael81Dus (D´OH !!!)
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To: Michael81Dus
(but I won´t express it in detail with respect to my policy of not interfering in domestic issues of foreign nations).

Ah, go ahead...I think people here are used to it.

You have to see that the European media presents (and has presented) Bush as a mad cowboy, determined to rule the world and to oppress all countries that do not follow Washingtons orders. They show us Bush like as if he´d be egoistic and selfish, reckless against anybody.

Change Bush to Reagan and you would be describing the Soviet media 20 years ago. Scary thought, isn't it?

214 posted on 06/23/2003 11:44:16 AM PDT by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation
Ah, go ahead...I think people here are used to it.

No, it´s one of my principles. It is not my business to teach you lessons on US domestic policy.

Change Bush to Reagan and you would be describing the Soviet media 20 years ago.

But then, the people knew is what biased propaganda of the enemy. Today, people believe it. Communication would help! I hope that the first destination of our next president (to be elected next year by a majority of Conservative and Liberal delegates) will be the United States. And when Hesse Governor Koch met Bush, he reported that he met a polite, calm and thoughtful statesman. We need more of these "reports", rather than comments of leftist 68-journalists.

215 posted on 06/23/2003 11:50:35 AM PDT by Michael81Dus (D´OH !!!)
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To: Mark17; Michael81Dus
Thanks, I finally got a chance to look at the link:

http://www.spaceagepop.com/welk.htm

I remember "Calcutta" very well, a pretty huge hit in the early 60s.
216 posted on 06/24/2003 10:05:52 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation
Change Bush to Reagan and you would be describing the Soviet media 20 years ago. Scary thought, isn't it?

Not just the Soviet media, most of the European media hated Reagan and said the exact same crap. Even today most of them would rather die than give him any credit for the Cold War.

217 posted on 06/24/2003 10:12:27 AM PDT by jpl
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To: Thud
Believe it or not, I far prefer German over Italian food. And I'm almost 100% of English extraction. Interesting article.
218 posted on 06/24/2003 10:34:53 AM PDT by twigs
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To: gorush
I heard a great German knock knock joke: Knock knock.

Who's there?

Hey! I'll ask the questions around here.

LMAO - that was really a great joke (NO sarcasm, I liked it!).

219 posted on 06/26/2003 4:08:19 AM PDT by anotherGerman
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To: Pokey78
Oh my god, what a bunch of reactions, this surely struck a never eh? :-)

I do believe the author has some points:
I have been to many countries in the world, nowhere have I felt as much "home" as in America, many many similarities between German and American people (let´s for a second forget about this Iraq thing, for those not knowing me, I am not supporting Schroeder and have always been for taking out Saddam), basically those the author and others here have named.

There are differences though (like American patriotism and optimism and the American flexibility us Germans really could use right now). I do not agree though with the authors idea that most of the Americans of German ancestry act as a homogenous German culture - they feel as Americans (and people on this board have strengthened my opinion on this). I think that most Germans like Americans (don´t believe the media *** over Iraq, most people here like Americans, even if they don´t like American politics at the moment) and it pains me to see what is happening with the German-American relationship at the moment. Back when I visited the US I always got a hearty welcome which became even warmer when I mentioned I am German. Somehow I have the feeling this is not likely to happen today ;-)

Last weekend my team (I coach a football team of 14 year olds) went to a tournament at Fulda where an American team was participating as well (Pennsylvania), and the hosts raised an American flag for the US guests and we all had a good time and I some nice chats with some of the
Americans. So don´t think you aren´t welcome here.

Btw, just a hint to those thinking that there are not so many Americans of German ancestry: The high figures are true, just think of a "Schmidt" becoming a "Smith" and a "Müller" a "Miller"...
220 posted on 06/26/2003 4:27:27 AM PDT by anotherGerman
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