Mein Gott! America is the new Germany

The Times (U.K.) ^ | 06/21/03 | Matthew Parris

[Maelstrom]

Send this guy this: http://www.la-articles.org.uk/fascism.htm

[Maelstrom]

Send it FREEPER STYLE!

Hundreds of times

THOUSANDS!

Until he learns it by heart. Education can be open to everyone.

[Shermy]

This analyzing "neo-conservatives" "straussian" thing is getting out of control over there! I wonder if they realize it started from Pat Buchanan.

Still, months and months down the line, I've yet to see one person ask any of the accused whether they are a "neo-conservative." Wolfowitz said the reportage was a conspiracy theory, and said he only had two classes with this Straus.

[Prodigal Son]

Very strange article. I'm glad I read to the end before commenting. May take me a while to mull it over...

[Bahbah]

My goodness, Pokey, where could one begin with this foolishness? At the end of a long week, I fear I lack the energy.

[Servant of the Nine]

Americans may have a Germanic temperment, but very few would even recognize the "Horst Wessel Lied" much less be able to sing it.

It is important to remember that at the time most "Germans" immigrated to America, there was no Germany. There were instead over 200 sovereign principalities, each with a distinct culture and attitude. All that held them together was a common language, and Americans of German descent have largely given that up.

The threatening "Prussian" character of Germany in the last 150 years is a product of Otto von Bismark and did not appear till long after our ancestors had left.

So9

[Thud]

Depends on whether you think the uptight north Germans are the only Germans. They're anal retentive. South Germans are anal expressive.

And we Pennsylvania Dutch haven't changed a bit in hundreds of years.

[Shermy]

"May take me a while to mull it over..."

It may be agendized. Maybe the writer is a Eurocentric fearing the recent awakening of the Brits to the designs of the French and Germans. Therefore, make the US worse.

[moyden2000]

Every liberal is a racist.

[Prodigal Son]

Die Fahne hoch
Die Reihen fest geschlosssen
SA marchier'n
Mit ruhig festem Schritt
Kameraden, die Rotfront und Reaktion erschossen
Marchier'n im Geist in unseren Reihen mit...

Spooky as hell when you see the end of "Triumph of the Will".

my wife taught it to me

[CyberCowboy777]

Interesting piece

I am mostly of German stock (Cherokee, Irish and Welsh) and really I have no idea what if any affected my blood line has had on me or my way of thinking.

I think our time and place in world events, as well as the goals of our ancestors have had more to do with who we are.

[Prodigal Son]

Well, I don't know. At the end the writer is sort of saying he likes this Germanic bent that American culture allegedly has...

[Dr. Frank fan]

Unintentionally hilarious bump.

This writer is a piece of work.

[Shermy]

It's confused for sure!

[Chi-townChief]

I'm an American Mongrel but am pretty much of 1/2 German - 1/2 Italian extraction. The Dago side of the family is still pretty fluent in Italian and the holidays always bring lots of Italian food. The German side pretty much dropped the language and culture and became Americans fast, I think, because of Germany's 50-odd years of embarrassing itself.

[rwfromkansas]

This is a pretty lame article.

The overwhelming majority of people in my town and the nearby towns are German.

But the idea that we are a "new Germany" is BS. And this article is just being written now, long after the immigration?

Has this journalist heard of timeliness? That is one of the essential elements of news. This is not even remotely timely, not even a tiny bit.

I am German, but I like to play up that itty bit of Irish, Scottish, and English in me more than my German.

[Thud]

Trust me, you are far better off with Italian food than German food.

"Why are Germans so atrocity-prone?"

"Their mothers' cooking makes them think it's normal."

[denydenydeny]

Americans, including German-Americans, love their freedom, and this distinction separates them from their cousins in Germany.

[MEG33]

I've been reading about communism and socialism.This was an interesting piece on fascism.Thanks for the link.