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Mother defends breastfeeding baby while driving (followup on idiot)
WKYC-TV/DT Cleveland ^ | 6.17.03 | Vic Gideon

Posted on 06/19/2003 7:36:03 PM PDT by mhking

Edited on 06/23/2003 2:48:15 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Mother defends breastfeeding baby while driving

Reported by Vic Gideon
POSTED: Monday, June 16, 2003 5:06:15 PM
UPDATED: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 12:20:52 PM

PORTAGE COUNTY -- A mother traveling from Detroit to Pittsburgh got into trouble in Portage County while trying to drive and breastfeed her baby at the same time.

Twenty-nine-year-old Catherine Donkers had fed the baby before she left Detroit but said her seven-month-old daughter was hungry again.

"I knew I was doing nothing wrong when I was breastfeeding her," Donkers said.

Donkers doesn't consider her actions excessively dangerous.

"I think there are lots of things we do when we put ourselves at risk, just by the very fact that I'm in a car and there's lots of car accidents every single day," she said. "I think it would be reasonable to say even that's a danger."

A truck driver apparently saw it as a danger and called the highway patrol. But Donkers wouldn't pull over for police until she got to a tollbooth.

"I've directed her to, that when she doesn't feel safe, she goes to a public place," said her husband, Brad Barnhill.

At the tollbooth, Donkers didn't give the trooper a driver's license. She instead pulled out an affidavit as identification and got cited for not having a license.

The couple also claims she did nothing wrong, saying Michigan law has an exemption to its child restraint law for nursing mothers.

They claim that since the turnpike is an interstate, drivers can follow the laws of their home state. But the highway patrol says that as long as the stop occurred in Ohio, they have to abide by Ohio laws.

The couple has done extensive research on the law and believes in a strict adherence to them. Donkers is facing child endangering and child seat violations among other charges. Her and her husband say they plan to fight all charges and will file a counter suit.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Michigan; US: Ohio; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: badparent; breastfeeding; childendangerment; childsafety; donkers; donkersisbonkers; driving; drivingwhilefeeding; goneinaninstant; idiot; justplainnuts; kook; motherhood; nocommonsense; nolawlicense; roadsafety; unlicenseddriver; vehiclesafety
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To: dighton
BUMP for evening fun.
261 posted on 06/20/2003 1:41:53 PM PDT by Constitution Day (Have *you* taunted a liberal today?)
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To: Catspaw
I can't imagine a more interesting thread for a Friday afternoon.
262 posted on 06/20/2003 1:42:31 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: mylife
There's big difference between tripping and falling (where you would instinctively turn to the side protecting your baby) and hurtling down the interstate at 70mph with your baby between you and the steering wheel.

Ridiculous!

263 posted on 06/20/2003 1:45:50 PM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: Deep roots are not reached by the frost..)
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To: RMDupree
you dont use instinct while driving??? rediculous
264 posted on 06/20/2003 1:47:08 PM PDT by mylife
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To: Poohbah

The "sovereign citizen" movement is a loosely organized collection of groups and individuals who have adopted a right-wing anarchist ideology originating in the theories of a group called the Posse Comitatus in the 1970s. Its adherents believe that virtually all existing government in the United States is illegitimate and they seek to "restore" an idealized, minimalist government that never actually existed. To this end, sovereign citizens wage war against the government and other forms of authority using "paper terrorism" harassment and intimidation tactics, and occasionally resorting to violence.

265 posted on 06/20/2003 1:47:10 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
takes some skill to breastfeed in a camaro

Beg to differ, it looks to me like a Chrysler Sebring Convertable; very tight quarters, I might add.

266 posted on 06/20/2003 1:51:02 PM PDT by danmar ("The two most common elements in the Universe is Hydrogen and Stupidity" Albert Einstein)
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To: Dog Gone
I can't imagine a more interesting thread for a Friday afternoon.

It's almost perfect--there's no full moon, though. It just seems like it.

267 posted on 06/20/2003 1:51:29 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: mylife
Tell me something. How is "instinct" going to keep your baby from being smashed between your body and the steering wheel when someone cuts you off?

At that point, no matter what, you will have to make an evasive manuever to avoid crashing and that means, letting go of the baby...who will undoubtedly be thrown about the vehicle as you fishtail for control.

I cannot believe people are trying to justify this woman's blatant stupidity!

268 posted on 06/20/2003 1:51:43 PM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: Deep roots are not reached by the frost..)
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To: Poohbah
Should children be allowed in cars at all? After all, their crying can distract the driver. Perhaps we should require soundproof boxes.

Wait that's not enough ... the child might wave his/her arms or grimace or otherwise create a visual distraction to the driver.

We need an opaque, soundproof enclosure for children in cars.

Wait! That's still not enough. The child might dirty his diaper or throw up, or something that creates a bad smell that distracts the driver.

We need an airtight, opaque, soundprooof box for the child in the car.

Face it, otherwise a child in the car is just unsafe.

269 posted on 06/20/2003 1:52:02 PM PDT by bvw
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To: mhking
"I'll admit to taking him at face value. I've got no reason to doubt him at this point."

FWIW (not much), I'm with you -- he would have to be a pretty well-researched liar!

270 posted on 06/20/2003 1:52:08 PM PDT by scott7278
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To: Howlin
I missed it.

Looks like there is going to shortly come a time when some camo clad, trailer trash militia freak is going to be spending sme time behind bars.

271 posted on 06/20/2003 1:52:24 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: mhking
What's your Bar number and in which state are you a practicing lawyer?

DING!

[The "Visitor's" side of the scoreboard lights up...]


Add thisto the mix re husband:
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272 posted on 06/20/2003 1:55:01 PM PDT by Kozak (" No mans life liberty or property is safe when the legislature is in session." Mark Twain)
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To: justshe
"If you don't mind answering, what religious faith do you and your wife practice? The tenets sound familiar, but I can't put my finger on it."

It would seem to be Mennonite/Anabaptist or some variant, with his quoting of the Dordrecht Confession.

273 posted on 06/20/2003 1:55:14 PM PDT by scott7278
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To: Xenalyte
We need to go to the big stuff:


274 posted on 06/20/2003 1:55:15 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: scott7278
See 265; there's his religion.
275 posted on 06/20/2003 1:55:52 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: RMDupree
RMDupree -- only forty years ago seat belts in cars were a rarity. Most front seats were bench seats. The whole family would sit in front to be together if they could. Were they all "blatantly stupid"?
276 posted on 06/20/2003 1:56:56 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
Were they all "blatantly stupid"?

No, they were uninformed.

Now we're not.

277 posted on 06/20/2003 1:58:07 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: mylife
you dont use instinct while driving??? rediculous

Driving is most assuredly not instinctive.

And at 70 MPH, it doesn't matter if you try to protect your baby; that kid's going to be an unguided missile until it his the steering wheel. A 21-pound baby at 70 MPH has a kinetic energy of 2,156 foot-pounds. That energy gets expended independently of the vehicle's kinetic energy in a collision, unless the kid's hard-mounted in place.

The Incredible Hulk couldn't hold the kid securely, using his arms alone, in that kind of situation.

278 posted on 06/20/2003 1:58:35 PM PDT by Poohbah (I must be all here, because I'm not all there!)
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To: Howlin
Gee ... sounds almost like the days before 1774, here. Citizens claiming sovereignity versus the King's Dicta!

How terrible. Let us rejoin Britian, today! God Save the Queen!

279 posted on 06/20/2003 1:59:45 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
No, they weren't.

On that same note, you cannot compare today's traffic, drivers and vehicles with those either.

I guess it's safe to say that you, among others, have never seen pictures of children who were smashed to bits between the dashboard and the body of the person holding them. Once you seen that image, you wouldn't think like you do.

I'm going home to hug my kids. And I'll be praying for all babies, both in utero and out.

280 posted on 06/20/2003 2:00:06 PM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: Deep roots are not reached by the frost..)
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