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Mother defends breastfeeding baby while driving (followup on idiot)
WKYC-TV/DT Cleveland ^ | 6.17.03 | Vic Gideon

Posted on 06/19/2003 7:36:03 PM PDT by mhking

Edited on 06/23/2003 2:48:15 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Mother defends breastfeeding baby while driving

Reported by Vic Gideon
POSTED: Monday, June 16, 2003 5:06:15 PM
UPDATED: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 12:20:52 PM

PORTAGE COUNTY -- A mother traveling from Detroit to Pittsburgh got into trouble in Portage County while trying to drive and breastfeed her baby at the same time.

Twenty-nine-year-old Catherine Donkers had fed the baby before she left Detroit but said her seven-month-old daughter was hungry again.

"I knew I was doing nothing wrong when I was breastfeeding her," Donkers said.

Donkers doesn't consider her actions excessively dangerous.

"I think there are lots of things we do when we put ourselves at risk, just by the very fact that I'm in a car and there's lots of car accidents every single day," she said. "I think it would be reasonable to say even that's a danger."

A truck driver apparently saw it as a danger and called the highway patrol. But Donkers wouldn't pull over for police until she got to a tollbooth.

"I've directed her to, that when she doesn't feel safe, she goes to a public place," said her husband, Brad Barnhill.

At the tollbooth, Donkers didn't give the trooper a driver's license. She instead pulled out an affidavit as identification and got cited for not having a license.

The couple also claims she did nothing wrong, saying Michigan law has an exemption to its child restraint law for nursing mothers.

They claim that since the turnpike is an interstate, drivers can follow the laws of their home state. But the highway patrol says that as long as the stop occurred in Ohio, they have to abide by Ohio laws.

The couple has done extensive research on the law and believes in a strict adherence to them. Donkers is facing child endangering and child seat violations among other charges. Her and her husband say they plan to fight all charges and will file a counter suit.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Michigan; US: Ohio; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: badparent; breastfeeding; childendangerment; childsafety; donkers; donkersisbonkers; driving; drivingwhilefeeding; goneinaninstant; idiot; justplainnuts; kook; motherhood; nocommonsense; nolawlicense; roadsafety; unlicenseddriver; vehiclesafety
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To: PhiKapMom
This is all I got out of him:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/932228/posts?page=114#114


Very flakey, IMO.
201 posted on 06/20/2003 12:57:06 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: bvw

A man among rabid lemmings.

Congratulations! You have REALLY elevated the discussion, which for the majority, had NOT denigrated into name-calling until your arrival!
202 posted on 06/20/2003 12:57:40 PM PDT by justshe (Educate....not Denigrate !)
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To: justshe
There are some folks who simply cannot handle the dual concepts of their own rights and the rights of others. They have no problem with the former, and just can't quite understand the latter.
203 posted on 06/20/2003 12:59:07 PM PDT by Poohbah (I must be all here, because I'm not all there!)
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To: Carolinamom
No doubt.
204 posted on 06/20/2003 12:59:57 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: mhking
"I think there are lots of things we do when we put ourselves at risk,

Nobody gives a flying Freep about you, dear lady. It is the other drivers and passengers that are forced to pay the price for your stupidity that we are concerned about.

205 posted on 06/20/2003 1:00:10 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (®)
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To: Poohbah
They have no problem with the former, and just can't quite understand the latter.

Indeed.

206 posted on 06/20/2003 1:01:10 PM PDT by mhking
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To: Poohbah
Excellent point, Poohbah!
207 posted on 06/20/2003 1:01:23 PM PDT by justshe (Educate....not Denigrate !)
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To: Howlin
Something smells about this story.

Can you say 'test case'?

209 posted on 06/20/2003 1:05:04 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (®)
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To: mhking
Don't you have to have a SSAN to file Income Tax? I know when my youngest daughter was born, I had to get a SSAN for her before my Income Tax could be filed.

How do you file Income Tax without a SSAN? How do you get paid without a SSAN? How is he getting by without paying into Social Security?
210 posted on 06/20/2003 1:07:17 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Bush Cheney '04 - VICTORY IN '04 -- $4 for '04 - www.GeorgeWBush.com/donate/)
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To: RgnadKzin
According to our faith, she can perform no public act without my express authority.

Fruitcake.

211 posted on 06/20/2003 1:07:18 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: bvw
You object to my calling him a "man"? I can understand that. The Association of Scrotum Bottlers has got its phone chain in overdrive.
How about addressing the topic and stop the personal attacks re: posters on this thread? This will be my last post in response to your baiting.
212 posted on 06/20/2003 1:07:29 PM PDT by justshe (Educate....not Denigrate !)
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To: bvw; mhking
You object to my calling him a "man"? I can understand that. The Association of Scrotum Bottlers has got its phone chain in overdrive.

ARTHUR: You fight with the strength of many men, Sir Knight.
[pause]
I am Arthur, King of the Britons.
[pause]
I seek the finest and the bravest knights in the land to join me in my court at Camelot.
[pause]
You have proved yourself worthy. Will you join me?
[pause]
You make me sad. So be it. Come, Patsy.

BLACK KNIGHT: None shall pass.

ARTHUR: What?

BLACK KNIGHT: None shall pass.

ARTHUR: I have no quarrel with you, good Sir Knight, but I must cross this bridge.

BLACK KNIGHT: Then you shall die.

ARTHUR: I command you, as King of the Britons, to stand aside!

BLACK KNIGHT: I move for no man.

ARTHUR: So be it!

ARTHUR and BLACK KNIGHT: Aaah!, hiyaah!, etc.
[ARTHUR chops the BLACK KNIGHT's left arm off]

ARTHUR: Now stand aside, worthy adversary.

BLACK KNIGHT: 'Tis but a scratch.

ARTHUR: A scratch? Your arm's off!

BLACK KNIGHT: No, it isn't.

ARTHUR: Well, what's that, then?

BLACK KNIGHT: I've had worse.

ARTHUR: You liar!

BLACK KNIGHT: Come on, you pansy!
[clang]
Huyah!
[clang]
Hiyaah!
[clang]
Aaaaaaaah!
[ARTHUR chops the BLACK KNIGHT's right arm off]

ARTHUR: Victory is mine!
[kneeling]
We thank Thee Lord, that in Thy mer--

BLACK KNIGHT: Hah!
[kick]
Come on, then.

ARTHUR: What?

BLACK KNIGHT: Have at you!
[kick]

ARTHUR: Eh. You are indeed brave, Sir Knight, but the fight is mine.

BLACK KNIGHT: Oh, had enough, eh?

ARTHUR: Look, you stupid bastard. You've got no arms left.

BLACK KNIGHT: Yes, I have.

ARTHUR: Look!

BLACK KNIGHT: Just a flesh wound.
[kick]

ARTHUR: Look, stop that.

BLACK KNIGHT: Chicken!
[kick]
Chickennn!

ARTHUR: Look, I'll have your leg.
[kick]
Right!
[whop]
[ARTHUR chops the BLACK KNIGHT's right leg off]

BLACK KNIGHT: Right. I'll do you for that!

ARTHUR: You'll what?

BLACK KNIGHT: Come here!

ARTHUR: What are you going to do, bleed on me?

BLACK KNIGHT: I'm invincible!

ARTHUR: You're a looney.

BLACK KNIGHT: The Black Knight always triumphs! Have at you! Come on, then.
[whop]
[ARTHUR chops the BLACK KNIGHT's last leg off]

BLACK KNIGHT: Oh? All right, we'll call it a draw.

ARTHUR: Come, Patsy.

BLACK KNIGHT: Oh. Oh, I see. Running away, eh? You yellow bastards! Come back here and take what's coming to you. I'll bite your legs off!


213 posted on 06/20/2003 1:10:08 PM PDT by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
It sounds, based on his posts, that he has encountered law enforcement before. So this might be ANOTHER test case.

I also wonder if civil lawsuits follow.....re: unlawful arrest(s).
214 posted on 06/20/2003 1:10:11 PM PDT by justshe (Educate....not Denigrate !)
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To: Howlin
Absolutely amazing! This thing smells. Guess it would be too much to ask how she put the baby back in the car seat when she was finished!

Didn't the woman never heard of a breast pump and putting it in a bottle? Or is that against the religion too?

Still trying to figure out if they are American citizens or not too! I don't get the part about the resident alien and then he says he was born in the land of liberty?

Actually more questions than answers it seems!

215 posted on 06/20/2003 1:10:20 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Bush Cheney '04 - VICTORY IN '04 -- $4 for '04 - www.GeorgeWBush.com/donate/)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
In that case, perhaps he should be arrested, too.
216 posted on 06/20/2003 1:11:01 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: PhiKapMom
He claims that he is the only one who can punish her.
217 posted on 06/20/2003 1:13:38 PM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: Calvin Locke
The original story was a man, not a woman.
218 posted on 06/20/2003 1:14:19 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Here's the google.com search on "Brad Barnhill," the husband in the story:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=%22Brad+Barnhill%22&btnG=Google+Search
219 posted on 06/20/2003 1:14:46 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Howlin
Hmmm - you have a point.
220 posted on 06/20/2003 1:16:51 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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