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Gray Davis DNC Strategy - Recall
KRLA ^ | 6-17-03 | self

Posted on 06/17/2003 9:46:54 AM PDT by tallhappy

On Dennis Prager a seminar caller to guest host David Horowitz revealed a new Democrat propaganda talking point.

He called in to disagree with Horowitz on the recall -- despite Horowitz not saying he was against it.

The talking point he spewed was about the budget deficit. Here was the crux of it:

It was all a conspiracy between Ken Lay and his good friend George Bush. CA had a good economy when Davis took over and Bush and Lay purposely destroyed it via energy scams

OK, ludicrous. But, this will be spewed by the left and the like as part of Davis' defense and general smear of Republicans. This will be one theme along with Issa being a master criminal.

Earlier thread about Dem strategy is here, Davis supporters don't discuss him which outlines the smear Issa strategy.

Infprmation on Clinton and Ken Lay and their very close relationship is here, Clinton Enron Nexus Clinton Administration Procured Credit for Enron, Used CIA as Resource for Enron


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: calgov2002; graydavis; lies; recall; talkingpoints
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To: NormsRevenge
Shameless plug for a Real California Conservative Recall Candidate follows :-)

Draft Tom McClintock

Check out his background in the bio section. He makes real contributions to society and not just on the silver screen.

61 posted on 06/17/2003 1:30:23 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi..Support FRee Republic..Become a Monthly Donor. PLZ! Only U can prevent FReepathons!)
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I'm pissed offf and I'm not gonna pay higher taxes...

and No, I'm Not voting for Camejo either!! ;-)


62 posted on 06/17/2003 1:45:01 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi..Support FRee Republic..Become a Monthly Donor. PLZ! Only U can prevent FReepathons!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Someone (Mrs. O'Rourke) from recallgraydavis.com said on the Roger Hedgecock show that the AP is reporting (unconfirmed) that Lockyer, Angelides, and Westly have announced this afternoon they are not running. Nothing about Bustamante.
63 posted on 06/17/2003 4:18:12 PM PDT by heleny
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Terry/Teri O'Rourke
64 posted on 06/17/2003 4:21:11 PM PDT by heleny
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I can't find any news mentioning Lockyer, Angelides, and Westly saying anything today.
65 posted on 06/17/2003 4:26:22 PM PDT by heleny
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To: NormsRevenge
Warren Harding was elected president in 1920 with close to 60% of the vote. At the time, he was a senator from Ohio. While he had some corrupt cronies, there has never been any question about the legitimacy of his victory over James M. Cox.
66 posted on 06/17/2003 4:27:19 PM PDT by writmeister
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To: ScottinSacto; heleny
Possible, but not probable.....not to say they won't file for it on day 2.

I won't put anything past the Rats in this State. I doubt that a second recall would be successful at the polls, but don't be surprised if we see this visited upon us.

67 posted on 06/17/2003 5:57:03 PM PDT by rivercat (Welcome to California. Now go home. (Why couldn't they have listened?))
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To: heleny
Yes. AP story reporting Lockyear and Angelides will not run if there is a recall election.


Also, can anyone explain the discrepancy between what Costa says and what Simon has been saying. Costa turned in 450,000 yesterday but Simon said on CCN (or FOX) that they have around 800,000. Are they sitting on them? Why would Costa do that? If he is, he should be removed.
68 posted on 06/17/2003 6:59:09 PM PDT by patriotguy
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To: writmeister
And I can't see Fineswine running for pres. She's 70 years old. She'd be at least 75 when her shot would come (in '08) and that's too old. Have you seen her lately? She looks like death warmed over!
69 posted on 06/17/2003 7:00:44 PM PDT by patriotguy
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To: patriotguy
Yes, there is a significant delay. Costa leads the only group authorized to turn signatures in to the counties, so all other groups (Kaloogian's RecallGrayDavis.com, Issa's Rescue California) must give their petitions to Costa.

Costa's group goes through the petitions to weed out obviously invalid signatures. Because there are some paid signature-gatherers who are paid only for valid signatures, those signatures are compared to county voter registration records. That takes some time, too, but the signatures submitted to the counties are then much more likely to be valid.

When the report from Secretary of State Shelley came out last month and showed fewer than 100,000 were turned into the counties, even though the dumpdavis.net count was much higher, we were all upset that Costa was slowing down the process. He has since improved, but there is definitely a backlog. The next report comes out on Monday, June 23, for the period ending either yesterday or last Friday (5 business days before the report).

My opinion: Next month he ought to give up on verifying the signatures and just send everything to the counties immediately. I'm not sure when the cutoff date is for the July report, but it's best to ensure the maximum possible number for that report and to force the counties to begin to verify the signatures. Otherwise, Shelley may have more delay tactics available.

70 posted on 06/17/2003 7:11:23 PM PDT by heleny
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To: tallhappy
There was a guy on Hannity - said the same thing!!
71 posted on 06/17/2003 7:34:35 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: Diplomat
It has been quite awhile. But it has happened many times in the past. Lately, we seem to like Governors for some reason. Hmmm? except for Davi$.

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Nine governors even resigned in order to serve in the Senate. So did Vice President John C. Calhoun. The ranks of the Senate are frequently sought out to fill cabinet posts, ambassadorial appointments and even the Supreme Court.

72 posted on 06/17/2003 7:42:54 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi..Support FRee Republic... http://www.drafttom.com ... Tom McClintock for Gub in the Recall)
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73 posted on 06/17/2003 7:46:58 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi..Support FRee Republic... http://www.drafttom.com ... Tom McClintock for Gub in the Recall)
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To: heleny
I would ask you and others who are impatient with Ted to give him a break.

For those of you who dont know him, he is quite the character and I wish him all the best.

As far as slowness is concerned, I hope you realize his entire "organization" is a small office in a strip mall next to a Bingo Parlor. As a result, he might not have the staff or resources you might think.

He is constantly looking for volenteers to staff the office, look him up in the book if you are in Sacto. I know he would appreciate the help.

Cheers,

knews hound
74 posted on 06/17/2003 7:52:12 PM PDT by knews_hound (Anyone else play Day of Defeat?)
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75 posted on 06/17/2003 8:08:13 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi..Support FRee Republic... http://www.drafttom.com ... Tom McClintock for Gub in the Recall)
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To: knews_hound
Thanks for the description. I know Costa has limited resources, but time is running short to ensure a recall this fall.

Verifying signatures is a slow but important step, but I think he should relax his standards and simply deluge the counties before this reporting period ends in mid-July. Because of the many ways Shelley could delay the process, it's important that we get enough signatures sent to the counties before the reporting period ends. That way, the official July report will show sufficient unverified signatures, and the counties must verify them within 30 days for the August report. Shelley then has 10 days to certify the results, and then Bustamante will call an election 60-80 days from certification.

Any delays will push the election to March, which decreases the chances of success; If Davis wins, we not only demoralize California while boosting the tax-and-spend liberals, we taxpayers also have to refund Davis' campaign money.

76 posted on 06/17/2003 8:10:49 PM PDT by heleny
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To: CyberAnt; .38sw
There was a guy on Hannity - said the same thing!!

So that's Prager, Elder and Hannity. Probably more.

77 posted on 06/18/2003 12:14:11 AM PDT by tallhappy
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