To: John Jorsett
Does anyone have any info as to which current vehicles have this device?
To: John Jorsett
As long as they aren't going on fishing expeditions, I am ok with the technology.
To: John Jorsett
I share the concern but 114 in a 35 is not going to generate any sympathy.
To: John Jorsett; dansangel
If I do not break the law and I stay within the limits of safety then I have no reason to be against this data that is being taken..
6 posted on
06/16/2003 9:17:55 AM PDT by
.45MAN
(If you don't like it here try and find a better country, Please!!)
To: John Jorsett
The problem with today's privacy advocates is they see any and all information as a "privacy threat". All this is doing is the exact same thing crash investigators have been doing for decades only it's faster and more accurate.
7 posted on
06/16/2003 9:22:19 AM PDT by
discostu
(If he really thinks we're the devil, then lets send him to hell)
To: John Jorsett
The electronic data recorder in Matos' car showed his peak speed was 114 mph in the seconds before the crash.The defense should have argued that the data were faulty; when the speed is measured at the drive wheels, and the defendant's foot is on the accelerator, the sensor will certainly return a false reading when the car is airborne (allowing the wheels to suddenly turn faster than if on the ground). </sarcasm>
Seriously, other than the fishing expeditions, the only real problem I have with any such devices is when they are wrong, unbeknownst to the prosecution and the court.
14 posted on
06/16/2003 9:30:55 AM PDT by
newgeezer
(Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
To: John Jorsett; .45MAN; martin_fierro
I drive GM and armed with this knowledge I will continure to drive GM.
The accident investigator's estimate was within 16 mph of the actual crash. With or without the device, Matos was cooked. The investigator's testimony would be equally as damaging.
I live in Atlanta where there are cameras *all* over the place to record traffic. They never bothered me because I try not to do anything stupid. Same thing goes for the "black box" in automobiles.
15 posted on
06/16/2003 9:31:22 AM PDT by
dansangel
(America - love it, support it or LEAVE it!)
To: John Jorsett
I guess that I'll have to marry my car so it can't testify against me.
18 posted on
06/16/2003 9:35:55 AM PDT by
wcbtinman
(The first one is expensive, all the rest are free.)
To: John Jorsett
As long as the info is accurate, what's the worry?
27 posted on
06/16/2003 10:02:47 AM PDT by
mewzilla
To: John Jorsett
A device that can record such information is a good thing. It is a bad thng if you can be tracked 24 x 7 or in real-time.
32 posted on
06/16/2003 10:07:39 AM PDT by
PatrioticAmerican
(If the only way an American can get elected is through Mexican votes, we have a war to be waged.)
To: John Jorsett
Stanziale also argued that Matos had modified his Trans Am, changing the size of the tires and even the engine's software to make it faster. That, he said, would have caused the EDR to make wrong calculations. Horowitz said there was no proof the changes affected the EDR.
If you change the tire diameter, how does the EDR know? There's no possible way. You could put 13 inch wheels on the car and it will record you doing 100 mph when you're only doing 70 or so.
34 posted on
06/16/2003 10:10:22 AM PDT by
Sir Gawain
(Mongo only pawn in game of life)
To: John Jorsett
"
Horowitz said there was no proof the changes affected the EDR."A very stupid statement.
About what I'd expect from a prosecutor these days.
To: John Jorsett
That sinks it.....Its time for the '53 chevy truck to come out of storage.......
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