Why Amnesty for Illegals is Bad Idea

fairus.org ^ | 2003 | www.fairus.org

[GatekeeperBookman]

In 1986, Congress passed the Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) giving amnesty — legal forgiveness — to all illegal aliens who had successfully evaded justice for four years or more or were illegally working in agriculture. As a result, 2.8 million illegal aliens were admitted as legal immigrants to the United States. In addition, they have so far brought in an additional 142,000 dependents. An Immigration and Naturalization Service study found that after ten years in the United States, the average amnestied illegal alien had only a seventh grade education and an annual salary of less than $9,000 a year.

Unlike immigrants with a sponsor who guarantees they will not become a burden on the public, when Congress enacts an amnesty, it makes the American public financially responsible for those amnestied.

The cost of amnesties to the American taxpayer is staggering.

An amnesty sends the message that it is okay to break the law.

Amnesty threatens homeland security.

[goldstategop]

I am opposed to amnesty on principle. The arguments of national security and public health concerns take on an even greater significance in the age of 9-11 and SARS. If we grant a blanket amnesty we have no way of knowing for certain who is a terrorist, a criminal, or the carrier of a lethal disease. Besides that its unfair to legal immigrants who wait years to get their citizenship applications processed to have people who've flouted our nation's immigration laws get priority consideration. We're a nation based upon the rule of law. Its time not for another amnesty but rather for tough enforcement of our immigration laws and border security regulations. Our country's security and economic prosperity demands no less in these imperiled times.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Cornyn set to outline guest worker program

[varon]

more than enough DemocRATS.

Not according to the RATS, that's why they're importing them from south of the borfer.

[logic101.net]

Amnisty is a stupid idea given that it makes a joke of our laws. Those that break our laws to enter the country for whatever reason must not be given a pass.

Although, I fully admit that our immigration policy is a sad joke. For one thing there are jobs that Americans won't do, or rather not enough of our citizens will do to meet the demand. At the same time many in Mexico would love to do those jobs, for wages that citizens won't work for. The solution in the long run is to expand our work visa program to meet the demand.

As for the illegals who are here now, a form of amnisty should be granted; they have 2 months to get out of the country and apply to come in legally! After the 2 months are up, illegals would be rounded up, finger printed, then sent back. Prints would be checked when applying for a visa and if someone had been caught after the 2 month amnisty they would never be allowed to come back, even as a tourist. Employers who are found to hire illegals would be jailed.

This would solve the labor problem for certain industries, and drastically reduce the number of illegals. It would also help INS know who is where.

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[Vaduz]

No papers? you go home NOW.

[gitmogrunt]

I blame the ball-less republicans(Except TANCREDO) and the spineless democrats equally on this one.

[citizen]

Tancredo for President!

[Free the USA]

fyi

[moehoward]

I second the motion on Tancredo.

[4Freedom]

It was announced today that Bush doesn't believe he'll face a serious challenge in the Republican Primary and he's looking for our support to gather in a $20 million dollar war chest in support of his bid for re-election.

I hope someone like Tom Tancredo surprises him.

I just told Bush's fund-raisers to tell Jorge to go ask his illegal alien constituency for a donation.

[citizen]

Bush may find the border issue is increasingly important to many people and not just those in the border states.

I intend to vote for Tom Tancredo as a write-in candidate in the '04 GA primary and the national election.

[Regulator]

Here's a few new ones, currently living next to the beach on the central coast of California:

More Illegals for California, Oh Joy

A heart rending story of an illegal crossing of the United States border gone wrong, resulting in 8 new welfare cases (Dad, an illiterate Mixtec Indian, and his Seven children), and 8 future welfare voters to vote to take away our property and our income.

Oh yeah, let's have an amnesty right now. Sure.

[Onelifetogive]

Why should amnesty be limited to only one class of criminals? Why not issue amnesty to American criminals, as well? We would save a fortune in court and prison costs. Open the prisons and set everyone free...

Do I really need to set sarcasm off??

OK, fine.

</sarcasm>

[4.1O dana super trac pak]

BTTT

[Risa]

>>For one thing there are jobs that Americans won't do, or rather not enough of our citizens will do to meet the demand.<<

The notion that Mexicans do jobs we won't is a myth, told by the immigration lawyers, meat industry, religious 'charities,' and other pro-illegal immigration advocates who benefit from the influx and who have very powerful lobbies.

Mexicans have replaced Americans in many work sectors that once provided Americans with a living wage (for life in America, not life in Mexico). For example, the meat industry once provided well-paying jobs for Americans. Now, 60% of the industry is reported to be illegal immigrant workers, and the remainder poor, uneducated legal immigrants.

In fact, some of the big meat companies travel to Mexico to recruit illegal labor, and then bring them back here and dump them off at a local shelter.

These Mexicans will work under obscenely dangerous conditions (no sane American would do this) without complaint. Because of the stress and danger, employee turnover rate is up to 400% during the course of a year in these mega -meat factories(The meat industry likes this).

When they are injured or when they leave that job, Americans pay for their medical care. They don't earn enough to feed the families who follow them, so American taxpayers foot the bill for food stamps and health care, language classes, education and so on for the family.

Not only that, the rapid pace of the butchering assembly line makes it easy to accidentally cut the intestines of the animal and spill the gut contents and any infectious microbes therein into the meat. So listeria, E.coli057 and other killer microbes end up being spread all over the country. I would never eat the meat in this country from anywhere but local farmers I know well. Nor would most people I know.

Yet, if you think about the enormous costs the meat industry is foisting onto the back of the taxpayers, including the spread of a newly resistant strains of tuberculosis, as well as the crime these people bring to small American communities, I suspect one is paying a hell of a lot more for one pound of hamburg than they did when the Americans filled the jobs.

I think this is the same for other jobs where illegals have displaced Americans. We end up subsidizing the cheap labor.

[supercat]

The notion that Mexicans do jobs we won't is a myth, told by the immigration lawyers, meat industry, religious 'charities,' and other pro-illegal immigration advocates who benefit from the influx and who have very powerful lobbies.

The biggest reason Americans won't do those jobs is that the employers have to compete with the welfare office. Hard to convince someone they should do an unpleasant job for $7/hour if they can receive almost as much dough staying at home watching television.

According to my boss, the medians on Korean highways are mowed by people using hand scythes. Although the use of hand scythes is largely "make work", it employs people rather than having them idle.

Too bad the government has decided idleness is better than demeaning labor.

[upchuck]

It's time for the Pubies, including Dubya, to grow some cojones on this issue. Tancredo can give them lessons. IMHO, this is the most critical problem our country faces. The long-term implications are horrendous.

It just blows me away that Dubya seemingly has turned his back on this issue.
CLOSE THE BORDERS NOW!!

[Joe Hadenuf]

We have enough gardeners, maids, lettuce pickers, gang members and more than enough DemocRATS

Are you sure you couldn't use a few hundred thousand more? Well if the FEDERAL government has their way, that is exacly what they are going to send you.