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1 posted on 06/16/2003 3:50:27 AM PDT by GatekeeperBookman
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I am opposed to amnesty on principle. The arguments of national security and public health concerns take on an even greater significance in the age of 9-11 and SARS. If we grant a blanket amnesty we have no way of knowing for certain who is a terrorist, a criminal, or the carrier of a lethal disease. Besides that its unfair to legal immigrants who wait years to get their citizenship applications processed to have people who've flouted our nation's immigration laws get priority consideration. We're a nation based upon the rule of law. Its time not for another amnesty but rather for tough enforcement of our immigration laws and border security regulations. Our country's security and economic prosperity demands no less in these imperiled times.
2 posted on 06/16/2003 4:26:23 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Cornyn set to outline guest worker program
4 posted on 06/16/2003 4:37:27 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Amnisty is a stupid idea given that it makes a joke of our laws. Those that break our laws to enter the country for whatever reason must not be given a pass.

Although, I fully admit that our immigration policy is a sad joke. For one thing there are jobs that Americans won't do, or rather not enough of our citizens will do to meet the demand. At the same time many in Mexico would love to do those jobs, for wages that citizens won't work for. The solution in the long run is to expand our work visa program to meet the demand.

As for the illegals who are here now, a form of amnisty should be granted; they have 2 months to get out of the country and apply to come in legally! After the 2 months are up, illegals would be rounded up, finger printed, then sent back. Prints would be checked when applying for a visa and if someone had been caught after the 2 month amnisty they would never be allowed to come back, even as a tourist. Employers who are found to hire illegals would be jailed.

This would solve the labor problem for certain industries, and drastically reduce the number of illegals. It would also help INS know who is where.

MARK A SITY
http://www.logic101.net/
6 posted on 06/16/2003 5:26:36 AM PDT by logic101.net (Support OUR Troops; Not Saddam's!)
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I blame the ball-less republicans(Except TANCREDO) and the spineless democrats equally on this one.
8 posted on 06/16/2003 6:33:44 AM PDT by gitmogrunt (Republicans and Democrats love to bend over the taxpayers for illegall immigrants.)
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Why should amnesty be limited to only one class of criminals? Why not issue amnesty to American criminals, as well? We would save a fortune in court and prison costs. Open the prisons and set everyone free...

Do I really need to set sarcasm off??

OK, fine.

</sarcasm>

15 posted on 06/16/2003 11:17:56 AM PDT by Onelifetogive
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BTTT
16 posted on 06/16/2003 4:30:12 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak
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It's time for the Pubies, including Dubya, to grow some cojones on this issue. Tancredo can give them lessons. IMHO, this is the most critical problem our country faces. The long-term implications are horrendous.

It just blows me away that Dubya seemingly has turned his back on this issue.
CLOSE THE BORDERS NOW!!

19 posted on 06/16/2003 5:16:58 PM PDT by upchuck (Contribute to "Republicans for Al Sharpton for President in 2004." Dial 1-800-SLAPTHADONKEY :)
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To: GatekeeperBookman; citizen; goldstategop; Kuleana; upchuck; varon; logic101.net; gitmogrunt; ...
Has anyone seen this? -->


Joseph Sandowski with the Sachem Quality of Life organization in Long Island has
filed a lawsuit against President Bush for encouraging the immigration flood, see:

http://lettersforcourt.blogspot.com/

25 posted on 06/16/2003 7:42:40 PM PDT by Risa
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To: GatekeeperBookman; citizen; goldstategop; Kuleana; upchuck; varon; logic101.net; gitmogrunt; ...
Has anyone seen this? -->


Joseph Sandowski with the Sachem Quality of Life organization in Long Island has
filed a lawsuit against President Bush for encouraging the immigration flood, see:

http://lettersforcourt.blogspot.com/

26 posted on 06/16/2003 7:42:40 PM PDT by Risa
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They are not illegals. The fresh meat for the Libral voting machines. The libs want them here and kept just alive enough to vote.
28 posted on 06/16/2003 9:28:12 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon
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Why Amnesty for Illegals is Bad Terrible Idea
30 posted on 06/16/2003 11:11:25 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (For or against us.........)
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ACTION PLAN: Border Violators

1) Close all US borders to illegal entry forthwith by any and all means possible, including military presence.

2) Maintain legitimate immigration levels at modest annual level with requirements that immigrants be employable or sufficiently wealthy for self-support if they do not intend to work, proficient in basic English and willing to be assimilated into American culture and language. All applicants shall provide prints, photos and DNA samples.

3) Legal immigration shall be awarded to individuals on a lottery basis, wherein all countries are given equal status in the immigration lottery, without regards to color or economic plight of originating nation.

4) Those from Muslim countries, or individuals of Islamic faith from any country, shall be denied immigration privileges to the US.

5) Detain all border violators, taking photos, prints and DNA samples of said violator while at the same time, checking for out standing warrants. If no warrants are outstanding, return border violators to home country within 20 days via commercial airline and submit cost of such action, including processing and housing costs for said violator, to country of origin. If costs are not paid within 30 days, reduce any and all aid to said country by a like amount.

6) Should any country from which a border violator originates not currently receive any aid from the US, the Justice Department shall be authorized to seize or secure liens on assets owned, managed or registered to that country to the full extent of the obligation.

7) Establish new Guest Worker Visa (GWV) category, renewable every 6 months, for unskilled labor positions wherein all applicants shall provide prints, photos and DNA samples. Work permitted of such applicants shall be limited to one of several categories, including childcare, lawn/gardening, restaurant staff, cleaning and the like. Families of GWV workers are not permitted to enter US, nor will the birth of a child to one of GWV status confer citizenship to either parent or child.

8) Any violation of civil or criminal laws shall result in the forfeiture of the GWV and immediate return to originating country.

9) GWV holders shall be prohibited from claiming unemployment benefits, welfare support or free medical service.

10) The originating country of all GWV holders shall be responsible for any uninsured loss caused by the GWV, including emergency medical claims and/or claims resulting from illegal actions committed while in the US.

11) Companies who hire GWV holders shall submit to the Immigration Dept the name and GWV number of that individual, along with a description of employment tasks. Companies who fail to report employment of GWV workers, or hire illegal workers, shall be subject to penalty. GWV workers shall be paid with check, having income tax withheld. GWV workers shall not be subject to unemployment tax because they are not eligible for unemployment claims.

12) Border violators, or any non-citizen not possessing a valid visa, detained by local police for any reason shall be turned over to border control officials for immediate deportation action, except if they face criminal charges in other jurisdictions.

13) GWV workers shall be prohibited for voting in local, state and federal elections.

14) (NEW) Border Violators shall NOT be afforded the rights enjoyed by American citizens, as guaranteed under the constitution.

15) (NEW) Public education (at institutions supported by taxpayer dollars) at any level (pre-school, kindergarten through the university level,) shall NOT be available to Border Violators (or children of Border Violators) and schools that enroll such individuals shall be subject to penalties.

16) (NEW) Foreign Students (individuals admitted to the U.S. for the purpose of attending any educational facility,) private or public institution (i.e. supported by taxpayer dollars,) must have valid student visas, such visas being in force only if the FS attends school full-time. Foreign students shall be required to pay tuition, housing and related costs such that all their educational costs are fully reimbursed to the institution attended and the originating country shall indemnify the students for any and all loss caused by that individual while he/she is on U.S. Soil.

34 posted on 06/20/2003 7:15:55 PM PDT by Imagine
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If Bush thinks that Amnesty will get him Mexican votes, he had better think twice about that. He WILL lose Americans votes, mine included.

This issue, alone, could cost the Republicans any control of anything they have, federal or state.
40 posted on 06/21/2003 9:57:46 PM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (If the only way an American can get elected is through Mexican votes, we have a war to be waged.)
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I say lets send them all back in pine boxes! Maybe it is time to defend our border with lethal force & that is both of them too!
I am tired of the bleeding hearts letting our country go to hell in a hand basket, just for the third world. We built this country, and I'll be darned if I'll let this happen!!!
45 posted on 06/22/2003 6:25:42 AM PDT by Knightsofswing (sic semper tranyis [death to tryants!])
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