Why Amnesty for Illegals is Bad Idea

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[GatekeeperBookman]

In 1986, Congress passed the Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) giving amnesty — legal forgiveness — to all illegal aliens who had successfully evaded justice for four years or more or were illegally working in agriculture. As a result, 2.8 million illegal aliens were admitted as legal immigrants to the United States. In addition, they have so far brought in an additional 142,000 dependents. An Immigration and Naturalization Service study found that after ten years in the United States, the average amnestied illegal alien had only a seventh grade education and an annual salary of less than $9,000 a year.

Unlike immigrants with a sponsor who guarantees they will not become a burden on the public, when Congress enacts an amnesty, it makes the American public financially responsible for those amnestied.

The cost of amnesties to the American taxpayer is staggering.

An amnesty sends the message that it is okay to break the law.

Amnesty threatens homeland security.

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

Didn't you learn anything in '92?

What did the GOP learn from '92?

[Risa]

>>Was your voice heard in '92 when you threw out Bush.Hell no. All you did was enable the Clintons. Thanks a lot. <<

Where did you get such an idea?

I didn't throw out Bush in 1992. I've voted strictly Republican all my life.

[GatekeeperBookman]

I wonder at the issue-have the Repub's any valid numbers on what their dark affinity for cheap labor will do to them ( & us)??

I get the uneasy fealing they have no idea what they have done.

Does Marine Inspector still post & have full freedom of the net??
Might he run Tancredo's campaign?? A military mind would be most helpful.

[GatekeeperBookman]

I should almsot prefer your 'free market anarchy'-if it were true. I think instead it is free market corruption.

[Knightsofswing]

I say lets send them all back in pine boxes! Maybe it is time to defend our border with lethal force & that is both of them too!
I am tired of the bleeding hearts letting our country go to hell in a hand basket, just for the third world. We built this country, and I'll be darned if I'll let this happen!!!

[Consort]

What did the GOP learn from '92?

'92 was a voter problem, not a party problem. Misguided voters got mad at one Republican and replaced him with the Clintons and the Clintons restocked key bureaucratis positions and the courts with Liberals/Socialists. We still don't know the full extent of the damage.

[Consort]

Then what does "So whether we support a Bush replacement in 2004, as I do, or an independent party..." mean?

[texastoo]

"'92 was a voter problem, not a party problem."

One of the main issues of '92 was NAFTA. Bush campaigned for NAFTA saying that it would cure whatever ailed the American economy at that time. He also said that NAFTA would stop illegal immigration. Clinton basicallly dodged the issue as it was the Democrats in Congress that wouldn't pass NAFTA. Perot told the truth about NAFTA.

I voted for Bush, but count me as a "misguided voter".

Was it the voters fault that they were lied to or the parties fault for lying that lost the election?

[Consort]

Was it the voters fault that they were lied to or the parties fault for lying that lost the election?

The voters, whether conservative, liberal, and otherwise, are responsible for the Clintons.

[texastoo]

Are you saying that it was the voters fault that they were lied to?

[Consort]

Are you saying that it was the voters fault that they were lied to?

Yes. When did Clinton ever tell the voters the truth after they put him in our White House — not once, but twice? It's naive to expect politicians not to exaggerate, or default on some promises, or even to lie. That's what they do. That's the way it is. Now, get past the lies and look at what is being done by the major parties. If you don't like what the Democrats are doing to us and to our country, then don't do anything that would give them power. Don't be a Liberal-enabler.

[Consort]

And don't forget that Bush was tricked into that "Read My Lips" thing by Speaker Mitchell....they were supposed to cut spending....they lied. Why did the voters reward the Democrats for that trick they actually played on all of us? Is that responsible voting?

[texastoo]

Yes, Clinton lied to us then and is still lying today.

So you are suggesting that we vote for the lesser of the two liers?

How pathetic.

[Consort]

How pathetic.

It's much worse if you enable the greater of two liars or the greater of two evils by who you vote for or who you don't vote for. The choice is simple and there is much at stake. If you enable the worse, then you are part of the problem.

[texastoo]

Bush wasn't tricked signing that piece of legislation. He took the advice of Nixon, who told him that the American people would forgive him.

Responsible voting? LOL

The only reason I voted for Bush was that my father, who is now deceased, lived in Arkansas. He said, "Clinton ain't nothing but a whoremonger." The Clinton escapades were known in Arkansas prior to the election.

I didn't and don't agree with either Bush on NAFTA or their one world order agenda. By the way, when is Bush going to make the UN irrelevant?

This time I'll vote for someone, if there is anyone, that will protect our sovereignty.

[Consort]

By the way, when is Bush going to make the UN irrelevant?

Bush can't do that on his own and as long as such a large international organization exists, we need to be a part of it to have our say-so and exert our influence. You can't run away and hide. And wishful thinking don't count.

This time I'll vote for someone, if there is anyone, that will protect our sovereignty.

Then you risk a repeat of '92 and you are part of the problem like I suggested you might be.

[steve in DC]

How would it be in a different circumstance?

What if someone were to open and operate a bar/restaraunt in a communty? What if it were properly and fairly run in every respect? What if the owners were good, honest, hard working people, popular with their customers and the community in general?

And then, what if it were determined that these people had no liquor license or business permit?

Would community activists be petitioning for "amnesty"? And what of all of the "legal" bar and restaraunt owners? Would their efforts to apply for and obtain liquor licenses and business permits be spat upon, as these "otherwise legal" operators are given amnesty?

It is intreguing to otherwise parse this issue so that we are "only" dealing with "otherwise legal" illegal immigrants. However, on its face, it calls into question the legal response to all administrative laws.

[Consort]

The only reason I voted for Bush was that my father, who is now deceased, lived in Arkansas. He said, "Clinton ain't nothing but a whoremonger."

Most of us have never been to Arkansas, but we figured that out on our own.

[texastoo]

"Then you risk a repeat of '92 and you are a part of the problem like I suggested you might be."

Quite frankly, I think you are the problem.

In your previous posts you have enabled liars, the lessor of the liars, (Republicans). You also support socialism, the UN. With your rationalization, we should have stayed in Kyota just to have our say-so and exert our influence. I agree that we needed to get out of Kyota and also think we need to get out of the UN.

Why is it so important to you for Americans to pick the lesser of the liars?

[Consort]

Quite frankly, I think you are the problem.

Of course you do. It's part of the syndrome.

In your previous posts you have enabled liars, the lessor of the liars, (Republicans).

The Dems or the GOP will govern this country for the foreseeable future. We have a duty to keep the worst of the two out of power. (No, the two parties are not the same.)

You also support socialism, the UN. With your rationalization, we should have stayed in Kyota just to have our say-so and exert our influence. I agree that we needed to get out of Kyota and also think we need to get out of the UN.

I don't support the UN or Kyoto. If we leave the UN the anti-American members will dominate; they will get plenty of anti-American funding; they will get more radical; will cost us more money to counter what they do than it costs us at present.......

Why is it so important to you for Americans to pick the lesser of the liars?

Because the greater of two liars........lies more.