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Making new amigos
U.S. News ^ | 6/23/03 | Michael Barone

Posted on 06/15/2003 11:42:38 PM PDT by LdSentinal

On April 11, at the Bethesda naval hospital, George W. and Laura Bush looked on as Master Gunnery Sgt. Guadalupe Donogean, a Mexican wounded in Iraq, was sworn in as a U.S. citizen. Some 37,000 noncitizens, most of them Hispanic, serve in the U.S. military; Congress is speeding through legislation to make it easier for them to become citizens, and two non- citizens killed in Iraq were granted citizenship posthumously. "It was a very profound moment," Bush said outside the hospital. "We were both honored to witness this." Many Democrats fear that the vision of Bush landing on the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln will win votes for him in 2004. But reverberations from that moment in Bethesda, or others like it, may be politically more potent.

That is because Hispanic immigrants are the fastest-growing and politically most fluid segment of the electorate. They were 7 percent of voters in 2000 and could be 9 percent in 2004, most of them in big states. Al Gore carried Hispanics 62 percent to 35 percent. But Bush has courted them assiduously, speaking Spanish, hailing the contributions of immigrants, proposing relaxation of immigration laws (though that's on the back burner now). Every department press office must have a Spanish-speaking spokesperson; Housing and Urban Development Secretary Mel Martinez appears often on the Univision and Telemundo television networks and talks not just about housing but also about foreign policy and defense.

All of this has paid off. Bush's favorable rating among Hispanics is high--63 percent in a recent Zogby poll, almost as high as his 69 percent among whites and much higher than his 50 percent among blacks. Interestingly, Bush is rated higher among immigrant and Spanish-dominant Hispanics than among the U.S.-born and English-dominant; many of the latter have gotten used to voting Democratic, while newcomers are more open to Bush's appeals. Other Republicans have won about half or more of Hispanic votes in 2001 or 2002--Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Gov. George Pataki in New York, Govs. Jeb Bush in Florida and Bill Owens in Colorado. These are voters up for grabs.

Court fight. Bush will have another issue working for him with Hispanics: the Democrats' blocking of the judicial nomination of Miguel Estrada. Democrats think this is a low-visibility issue and point out that the (all-Democratic) House Hispanic Caucus and the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund oppose Estrada. But the two Hispanic organizations with the largest memberships don't: The League of United Latin American Citizens supports Estrada, and the National Council of La Raza is neutral. Martinez and other administration representatives appear frequently on Spanish-language TV and radio to attack Democrats for opposing Estrada, to the point that some Democrats have charged Univision with bias. The message may be getting through. A poll of Hispanics by the pro-Estrada Committee for Justice shows that a surprisingly high 33 percent are aware that Estrada has been nominated and not confirmed.

It is not hard to imagine the ad Bush could run on Spanish-language TV in 2004: President Bush has nominated a Hispanic who came to this country at 17 speaking little English, who graduated from Harvard Law School and argued numerous cases before the Supreme Court--but the Democrats are blocking him by holding him to a different standard from that of any other nominee. Which they are. They demanded to see memos he wrote while in the solicitor general's office, even though such memos have never been revealed before and though they did not make the same demand of another nominee who worked there. They subjected him to a filibuster--something never before done to a judicial nominee with the votes to be confirmed. This could be political dynamite--a narrative that shows Bush honoring an immigrant who has worked hard and achieved great things and the Democrats discriminating against him. Democrats, confident in 2002 that they would pay no political price for opposing Bush on homeland security at the behest of federal employees' unions, seem confident now that they will pay no political price for opposing him on Estrada at the behest of abortion-rights groups. But in 2002 Bush showed he can shine the spotlight on the hitherto obscure homeland security issue, just as he could shine the spotlight on marines becoming citizens in Bethesda. He could shine it on Estrada in 2004. Democrats think blocking Estrada is clever politics. But they risk alienating America's fastest-growing and most fluid voting bloc.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2004; bethesda; citizenship; election; estrada; gwb2004; hispanics; latinos; michaelbarone; telemundo; votingblocs

1 posted on 06/15/2003 11:42:38 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: LdSentinal
Love to see any of the Rat wantabes explain to a Hispanic crowd why Estrada isn`t qualified.
2 posted on 06/15/2003 11:50:26 PM PDT by bybybill (first the public employees, next the fish and, finally, the children)
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To: LdSentinal
...proposing relaxation of immigration laws (though that's on the back burner now).

trying several times to sneak an amnesty through congress is more than "proposing".

3 posted on 06/15/2003 11:55:34 PM PDT by dagnabbit (Language Culture Borders -- Tancredo for President)
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To: LdSentinal
That is because Hispanic immigrants are the fastest-growing and politically most fluid segment of the electorate. p ------------------

Putting it less euphemistically, we are being invaded.

4 posted on 06/16/2003 12:00:06 AM PDT by RLK
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To: bybybill
Quite frankly, I would love to see a Hispanic crowd who knows who Estrada is. The Hispanics I have talked to don't know who he is and don't care.

As a matter of fact, I was in line at a cafeteria last week and had to explain what "freedom" fries were to a Phillipino.

Most foreigners that I have met don't care about our politics unless it has something to do with freebies for them.
5 posted on 06/16/2003 12:09:12 AM PDT by texastoo
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To: texastoo
Quite frankly, I would love to see a Hispanic crowd who knows who Estrada is. The Hispanics I have talked to don't know who he is and don't care.

ALot of hispanics do know who he is, and I've met quite a few of them. They are the guys who watch spanish TV and don't know a hell of alot of english.

Bush is not going to get the hispanic vote in general, will never happen, but with little things like this, he can get alot of votes, especially mexican, and cuban's. Puerto Ricans and Domincans are not going to vote for Bush, no matter what he does.

Just to note, the hispanics I met, who know Estrada, are already opposed to him, because to them, liberal=good, republican=bad. They are more loyal to the dems then they are to religion or anything else. Bribary couldn't get this kind of stupid loyalty.

6 posted on 06/16/2003 12:52:14 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: texastoo
Most foreigners that I have met don't care about our politics unless it has something to do with freebies for them.

They obviously have more important things to do like living their lives. Jobs, family, and community.

7 posted on 06/16/2003 3:00:31 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: texastoo
Philippinos aren't strictly speaking Hispanics. I think they'd fall under the list of asians.
8 posted on 06/16/2003 5:32:22 AM PDT by Cronos (Mixing Islam with sanity results in serious side effects. Consult your Imam)
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To: RLK
most baby boomers AND their children have never asked their kids to mow lawns for their spending money or to wash cars, flip burgers or get a job on a consturction site cleaning it...all jobs people over 50 did getting through high school or college. Why did this happen? Well those folks invading our country are doing what people won't do any more. That is why the price of housing, food and hotels are not higher.

Illegal is illegal, but the self centered public turns a blind eye to their comforts

9 posted on 06/16/2003 5:39:16 AM PDT by q_an_a
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To: q_an_a
Believe it or not, there is still a few remote areas in this country that have no hispanics. Believe it or not, white boys and white girls do the jobs that you described such as mowing their yards, washing cars and yes even flipping burgers.

By the way, where do you shop? My food prices are higher, hotels aren't cheap and the cost of housing where there is a large influx of aliens have doubled or tripled.

My insurance rates are much higher. My city, county and state taxes are much higher. Why did this happen?

My state has one of the largest deficits in history coupled with the fact it has one of the largest illegal immigration populations. Why did this happen?
10 posted on 06/16/2003 9:08:49 AM PDT by texastoo
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To: texastoo
Well if you are a texan and you are telling me that you live in an area that has no hispanics then my extensive driving experience has not gone through your town or county.

The cost of insurance is up because people decided to remodel their homes using insurance money. Mold claims which could mostly be solved by the use of spary on bleach has gone out of control. The cost of a car which was under 10k in 1990 is now over 20K. Maybe that is what the insurance company is covering as it doubles its prices.

As to kids doing chores, you don't go to many urban or suburban food chains or look into the pickup trucks along Texas highways. You would see that not many college age KIDS work. Nor are they driving them if they have tools attached.

Heck I know good families who would no more consider having their kids pay for the COST of a car than they would start devil worship. KIDS pay for gas. We are raising a generation of kids of all races that don't know jack about work.

Finally, the reason that the price of government has gone up, according to too many people in government is that folks from NY or some other place up north, came to Texas and wanted more service, they said, "We want more parks, more regulations etc and the cities and counties gave voters what they want.

11 posted on 06/16/2003 2:31:46 PM PDT by q_an_a
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To: q_an_a
Reread my post again. I said there are still places, remote places, in this country that don't have hispanics. In these places white kids, yes white kids, flip burgers, wash cars, cut grass and even clean toilets.

Please note, I did not say Texas as I don't believe there is a town in Texas that doesn't have illegal aliens. Maybe you need to widen your driving horizon.

Health insurance has gone out of site since 1990. After all someone has to pay for the illegals. Also, most people have had to acquire uninsured motorist insurance.

The NYers and notherners usually come here for the winter season mainly to cross the border to buy medicine. They don't demand much. However, the hispanics here demand parks and all services from the government that are available. The children have free school meals, breakfast and lunch. Even the doctors children. We also run school buses to the border for the poor children in Mexico.
12 posted on 06/16/2003 3:26:38 PM PDT by texastoo
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