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Posted on 06/15/2003 12:36:03 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5
WEAPONS OF CHOICE
300,000 M-14s destined for trash pile
Petition calls on Congress instead to sell guns to help pay for Iraq war
Posted: June 15, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern
© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com
A petition drive is underway to convince lawmakers to "civilianize" hundreds of thousands of M-14 military battle rifles so they can be legally sold by the government to the general public as a way to pay for the Iraq war.
According to the online petition, "there is a strong demand for an M-14 DCM [Director of Civilian Marksmanship] program, which will curb government waste by providing up to $300-600 million [for] deficit reduction."
"With uncertainty of the price tag of the current war, this will help pay for freedoms we enjoy in this country," says the petition. "With the looming war deficit, our government should not throw away hundreds of millions of dollars by destroying M-14 rifles some of which are brand new."
The petition, which is being spearheaded by Robert A. Yoder, says as many as 300,000 rifles could wind up in the scrap heap without the government getting any return on its investment.
The DCM program to save the M-14s could work like a similar program involving another venerable military workhorse, the M-1 (Garand) and M-1 carbine series of military rifles.
The DCM sold those through the Civilian Marksmanship Program, a course that promotes firearms safety training and rifle practice for all qualified U.S. citizens with special emphasis on youth.
The Civilian Marksmanship Program also offers for sale AR-15-type match rifles, M1917 Enfields, M1903 bolt-action rifles (a former U.S. military weapon) and .22-caliber target rifles at subsidized rates.
"The U.S. Rifle, 7.62 mm, M-14 was the first rifle the U. S. fielded that improved upon the highly regarded U. S. Rifle, Caliber.30, M1 (Garand) and attempted to give U. S. Forces a NATO-standardized weapon," says the online petition. "The M-14 came into active service around 1957 and remained the standard infantry weapon until the official adoption of the M-16 rifle in the late 1960s.
"Like its predecessor, the M-14 is now relegated to ship's arms rooms, ROTC detachments, storage bins in government arsenals and, of late, the demilitarized scrap pile," says the petition.
TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Announcements; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; cmp; garand; m14
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It would be wonderful to be able to save these rifles from the crusher.
To: *bang_list; Travis McGee; Eaker; TexasCowboy; humblegunner; archy
I don't think the odds are very favorable to save these pieces of history but it would be nice.
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posted on
06/15/2003 12:39:10 PM PDT
by
Shooter 2.5
(Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
To: Shooter 2.5
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posted on
06/15/2003 12:41:44 PM PDT
by
Shooter 2.5
(Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
To: Shooter 2.5
Excellent. About time we had a real debate on guns in America. How can we get more military quality arms in the hands of more people? Should these rifles be sold at open bid or should there be a program for lower income seniors to buy them at a discount?
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posted on
06/15/2003 12:42:36 PM PDT
by
DPB101
(The Marines) have a propaganda machine that is almost equal to Stalin's." --Harry Truman.1950)
To: DPB101
The Department of Civilian Marksmanship and later, the Civilian Marksmanship Program have been around for years. The only advantage a senior citizen has is the ability to buy one of these rifle without firing the necessary rounds in a shooting match. The prices are fixed except for chosen collectables which might be auctioned.
Check with the NRA to find a High Power Rifle Match near you or go to the CMP website at www.odcmp.com
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posted on
06/15/2003 12:49:30 PM PDT
by
Shooter 2.5
(Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
To: DPB101
Some of those seniors are pretty knowledgeable already, but the youngsters need training and practice. So no special deals for the geezers unless they're activly training the squids... err kids.
Militia - Got Liberty?
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posted on
06/15/2003 12:59:47 PM PDT
by
TERMINATTOR
(Don't tread on me!)
To: Shooter 2.5
Awesome idea!
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posted on
06/15/2003 1:14:33 PM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: TERMINATTOR
Excellent idea! Give vets free rifles (or heavy discounts) if they agree to spend so much time teaching kids firearm safety and how to shoot.
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posted on
06/15/2003 1:19:58 PM PDT
by
DPB101
(The Marines) have a propaganda machine that is almost equal to Stalin's." --Harry Truman.1950)
To: Shooter 2.5
I wonder what the plan is to weld up the auto-selector channel in the M-14 receiver. Will these have to be de-bayolugged as well? I think the 1994 AWCA has to sunset before these can be released through the DMC anyway.
I think $500 is a fair price for 'rack grade' samples, and Springfield Armory isn't going to like it. Fulton Armory and Fred's M-14 Stocks sure will though.
Make mine an Harrington & Richardson model, please.
To: Shooter 2.5
I'll be signing the petition. I would love to have an M-14.
I became familiar with them while in the Army; I preferred them to M-16's.
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posted on
06/15/2003 1:20:39 PM PDT
by
Zman516
(No retreat, baby, no surrender.)
To: The KG9 Kid
There's little extention on one of the trigger group parts that can be cut off. No biggy. The biggest problem is the rule of "once select fire, always select fire".
There's a duplicate thread with a better format and all the pretty pictures. I'm reading those comments too.
I expect the administrator to kill this thread.
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posted on
06/15/2003 1:29:23 PM PDT
by
Shooter 2.5
(Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
To: Shooter 2.5
There's another thread about this topic. The gubment is giving PD's M-14's and M-16's for Homeland Security. Our dept. is getting several of each.
I'll look good in my jackboots carrying an M-14.
To: Shooter 2.5
Signed, sealed and hopefully delivered!
Eaker
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posted on
06/15/2003 1:43:39 PM PDT
by
Eaker
(Adiós reality; I want to be a Jack-Ass millionaire!!............;<)
To: Shooter 2.5
An M-14 would be a nice addition to my collection.
A very nice one.
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posted on
06/15/2003 1:45:22 PM PDT
by
Mr. Mojo
To: Cap'n Crunch
I want all those beautiful 20 round mags to be sold by the CMP.
Put me down for a dozen.
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posted on
06/15/2003 1:46:10 PM PDT
by
Shooter 2.5
(Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
To: Cap'n Crunch
I'll look good in my jackboots carrying an M-14.Funny, actually coming from a "copper"!
Eaker
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posted on
06/15/2003 1:46:46 PM PDT
by
Eaker
(Adiós reality; I want to be a Jack-Ass millionaire!!............;<)
To: Shooter 2.5
I may try to liberate some.
:-)
To: Shooter 2.5
I expect the administrator to kill this thread.Got a link?
Eaker
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posted on
06/15/2003 1:49:46 PM PDT
by
Eaker
(Adiós reality; I want to be a Jack-Ass millionaire!!............;<)
To: Shooter 2.5
I think I need a pair of those.. I like symetry.
I will happily be General Public to buy those.. best rank I ever had!
To: Eaker
I've heard it so many times that I'm starting to believe it. I'm even showing up on calls talking with a German accent.
'I am not ZA po-po!'
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