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Yes, They Were Guilty. But of What Exactly? [NYT FINALLY admits Rosenbergs were guilty!]
NY Times ^ | June 15, 2003 | SAM ROBERTS

Posted on 06/15/2003 6:43:14 AM PDT by Pharmboy


Robert, left, and Michael Rosenberg in June 1953.

Fifty years ago Thursday, Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were executed in the electric chair at Sing Sing. Their execution, originally set for 11 p.m. on Friday, June 19, 1953, was rescheduled for 8 p.m. to avoid conflict with the Jewish sabbath.

"They were to be killed more quickly than planned," the playwright Arthur Miller wrote, "to avoid any shadow of bad taste."

A shadow lingers.

"I grew up believing Ethel and Julius were completely innocent," Robert Meeropol, who was 6 years old in 1953, says of the Rosenbergs, his parents. "By the time I completed law school in 1985, however, I realized that the evidence we had amassed did not actually prove my parents' innocence but rather only demonstrated that they had been framed."

After digesting newly released American decryptions of Soviet cables a decade later, Mr. Meeropol came to a revised conclusion. "While the transcriptions seemed inconclusive, they forced me to accept the possibility that my father had participated in an illegal and covert effort to help the Soviet Union defeat the Nazis," he writes in his new memoir, "An Execution in the Family: One Son's Journey" (St. Martin's Press).

Of course, the Rosenbergs weren't executed for helping the Soviets defeat the Nazis, but as atom spies for helping Stalin end America's brief nuclear monopoly. They weren't charged with treason (the Russians were technically an ally in the mid-1940's) or even with actual spying. Rather, they were accused of conspiracy to commit espionage — including enlisting Ethel's brother, David Greenglass, through his wife, Ruth, to steal atomic secrets from the Los Alamos weapons laboratory where he was stationed as an Army machinist during World War II. Mr. Greenglass's chief contribution was to corroborate what the Soviets had already gleaned from other spies, which by 1949 enabled them to replicate the bomb dropped on Nagasaki. (He confessed, testified against his sister and brother-in-law and was imprisoned for 10 years; Ruth testified, too, and was spared prosecution.)

As leverage against Julius, Ethel was also indicted on what, in retrospect, appears to have been flimsy evidence. The government didn't have to prove that anything of value was delivered to the Soviets, only that the participants acted to advance their goal.

"When you're dealing with a conspiracy, you don't have to be the kingpin, you have to participate," says James Kilsheimer, who helped prosecute the Rosenbergs. "You can't be partially guilty any more than you can be partially pregnant."

But to justify the death penalty, which was invoked to press the Rosenbergs to confess and implicate others, the government left the impression that the couple had handed America's mightiest weapon to the Soviets and precipitated the Korean War.

Records of the grand jury that voted the indictment remain sealed. But we now know the Soviet cables decoded before the trial provided no hard evidence of Ethel's complicity. And Mr. Greenglass has recently admitted that he lied about the most incriminating evidence against his sister. The government's strategy backfired. Ethel wouldn't budge. The Rosenbergs refused to confess and were convicted.

"She called our bluff," William P. Rogers, the deputy attorney general at the time, said shortly before he died in 2001.

"They had the key to the death chamber in their hands," Mr. Kilsheimer says. "They never used it."

Whatever military and technical secrets Julius delivered to the Russians — and it now seems all but certain that, as a committed Communist, he did provide information — the Rosenbergs proved more valuable as martyrs than as spies.

"The Soviets did win the propaganda war," said Robert J. Lamphere, an agent for the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

The war isn't over. David Greenglass is 81; Ruth Greenglass is 79. They live under a pseudonym because their surname has become synonymous with betrayal of kin and country. "Perhaps," Mr. Meeropol says, "this is David and Ruth's final punishment."

On Thursday, Mr. Meeropol, who is 56, and his brother Michael, who is 60, (they took their adoptive parents' name) will attend a program at City Center in Manhattan to "commemorate the Rosenbergs' resistance" and benefit the Rosenberg Fund for Children, which Robert runs.

Michael Meeropol is chairman of the economics department at Western New England College. Would any evidence ever convince him that his father was a spy? "If Soviet documents were verified as historically accurate, I'd certainly believe that," he replied.

Then what? How would he explain his father's behavior? "I would have to do some thinking about my parents being involved in dangerous things, but I can't judge people from the 1940's," he said. "He's not in the Army. He has bad eyesight. He can't make the contribution that others were making. I could argue that this was a way of doing it."

To this day, plenty of people would argue that he's wrong.

Sam Roberts, the deputy editor of the Week in Review, is the author of "The Brother: The Untold Story of the Rosenberg Case."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Russia
KEYWORDS: coldwar; leftyapologists; nytimes; rosenbergs; spying
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Meeropol is a thoroughly deluded leftist. He recently wrote a book (Surrender), purporting to show the Clinton administration "completed" the Reagan Revolution. Evidently, even Clinton, who transferred critical missile tech to the communist Chinese, was too far to the right to suit Mr. Meeropol.
101 posted on 06/16/2003 12:08:55 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Poohbah

What Made Venona Possible?

The messages broken by the Venona program were both coded and enciphered. When a code is enciphered with a one-time pad, the cryptographer who designed the system expects the encipherment to provide absolute security--even if an adversary somehow obtains an underlying codebook or debriefs a defecting code clerk (such as Igor Gouzenko). A flaw in the encipherment, however, can leave such messages vulnerable to analysis even in the absence of a codebook. Such was the case for the Soviet diplomatic systems from which the Venona translations came. Arlington Hall's Venona breakthrough in 1943-46 was a purely analytic accomplishment, achieved without the benefit of either Soviet codebooks or plain-text copies of original messages. The 1944-46 messages--which yielded the early translations and the bulk of all translations--were recovered over a period of years by Arlington Hall cryptanalysts and decoded from a "codebook" that crypto- linguist Meredith Gardner reconstructed by using classic codebreaking techniques.

A Soviet code clerk preparing a message first reduced its text into numeric code groups drawn from a codebook (a kind of dictionary in which the words and common phrases correspond to four-digit numbers). After encoding the plain text with numeric code groups, the clerk would obscure the code groups by adding them, digit by digit, to a string of random digits. This second series of digits, called "additive" or "key," was known to both the sender and receiver because it was printed on the pages of a "one-time pad." One-time pads were periodically pouched to Soviet consular missions in sealed packets. The pad pages--with 60 five-digit additive groups per page--were used in order, always starting with the group in the upper lefthand corner (the pad-page number to be used was more or less concealed somewhere on the face of the message). Code clerks in different Soviet missions used up these packets at varying rates, depending on the volume of messages to be enciphered or deciphered.

The security of such an encipherment-decipherment system depends on both the randomness (that is, unpredictability) of the "key" on the one-time pad pages and the uniqueness of the one-time pad sets held by the sender and the receiver. Different Soviet organizations used their own codes, changing them every few years (probably more to improve vocabulary and convenience than to enhance security).

The flaw in the Soviet messages resulted from the manufacturers' duplication of one-time pad pages, rather than from a malfunctioning random-number generator or extensive re-use of pages by code clerks. For a few months in early 1942, a time of great strain on the Soviet regime, the KGB's cryptographic center in the Soviet Union for some unknown reason printed duplicate copies of the "key" on more than 35,000 pages of additive and then assembled and bound these in one-time pads. Arlington Hall's Lt. Richard Hallock analyzed Soviet "Trade" messages in autumn 1943, producing evidence of extensive use of duplicate key pages (often with different page numbers) assembled in separate one-time pad books. Thus, two sets of the ostensibly unique one-time pad-page sets were manufactured. Despite the opinion that a single duplication was insufficient for solution, Hallock and his colleagues continued to attack the Trade messages and made considerable progress in understanding the cryptographic basis of the diplomatic systems. From Hallock's original discovery, additional analysis yielded techniques for finding duplicate pages separated in time and among different users. The duplicate pages began showing up in messages in mid-1942 and were still occurring in one circuit as late as June 1948. Nevertheless, most of the duplicate pages were used between 1942 and 1944--years of rapid expansion of Soviet diplomatic communications.

We do not know how and when the Soviets discovered the flaw, but we believe Moscow learned of it through agents William W. Weisband and Kim Philby. By the time the Soviets saw the consequences of the manufacturing flaw in the late 1940s, however, most of the duplicate one-time pad pages had already been used. The set of potentially exploitable messages thus was bound by the production of the duplicate pages and the West's ability to spot duplicate uses. Finding duplicates, however, only made the messages potentially readable; indeed, some messages and passages remained unexploitable even after 37 years of effort.

Cecil James Phillips
National Security Agency

And so it goes - detail after detail

102 posted on 06/16/2003 12:17:54 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
No, the '60s was also very much about politics and especially Communism being seen as something valid. The leaders of the Hippies and the Yippies, and the SDS were, almost 100% ( The one exception, that I know of, is Tom Hayden ) RED DIAPER BABIES ! The " Black Power " movement was also financed and helped by the same bunch, to some extent. Though the Black Panthers were actually little more than a gang of thugs, they too preached ( nay, demanded ) the redistribution of wealth and took it into their own hands ( by theft ! ) of doing so.

Just as the Marxists/Communists/Socialits of the late 1800s had attempted to lure Americans with the idea of " FREE LOVE ", do your own thing, and strange dress, for " the greater good " , so did the Hippies; with more success. What, after all, were communes, if NOT Communism in small letters ? If you don't believe that the '60s wasn't anything more than a sexual/dress unheaval, then you should read ALL of David Horowitz's books and talk to those of us who lived through those times as aware adults.

And FYI ... the " War on Poverty " was a late '60s REDISTRUBUTION OF WEALTH , writ large and mandated by the president of the USA. So were many new welfare programs and handouts, that had never before been in existance. Oh, and what would you call Afirmative Action ? Hmmmmmmmm ?

The left no longer exists ? It doesn't ? There aren't any stinking Commies/Socialists still in America now ? ARE YOU KIDDING ?

103 posted on 06/16/2003 12:18:21 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: liberallarry
If that's true then a good case can be made for abrogating constitutional protections.

What protections were abrogated? The Rosenbergs had a legal defense team not one in a hundred Americans could afford. They had tens of thousands of communist party members protesting in the streets for them. They had people in the media on their side. That got due process and then some. They were guilty you know. A jury did convict them. They were not railroaded and their rights were not violated. Same with Sobell. Same with Alger Hiss. Yet you seem to believe these cases are open. That there is doubt. That the U.S. government is the villian. Why?

The only place the Rosenbergs are still honored is in Cuba. The world's one memorial to the Rosenbergs is in Havana.

104 posted on 06/16/2003 12:18:23 AM PDT by DPB101 ("Smearing good people like Alger Hiss and Lauchlin Currie is . . .unforgivable"---Eleanor Roosevelt)
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To: Bonaparte
The left has tried to rewrite history so many times.

I want the truth, not some deluded leftists view of the world.

I read Ragtime by E.L. Doctorow when I was younger. I believed it. I saw Reds by Warren Beatty. I believed it. I believed in the Che Guevara world and that the Soviets were actually nice people.

It was spoon fed to me daily.

Plus being Jewish....oh they can really GUILT TRIP you there! Jews walked hand in hand in Civil Rights. Jews were the Union Organizers. BLAH BLAH BLAH!

My parents and every member of my family is a Democrat. I am the LONE Republican although my father in the 80's started becoming a Reagan Democrat! But at that time (see my spoon fed history) it was too late for me.

I don't believe any of their shite now. I am on the Right. My family can't believe it, but I can't stand the Left nor Dems at this point.

Needless to say I don't really talk politics with the family....
105 posted on 06/16/2003 12:19:37 AM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: nopardons
Honey I got that from the link. Please read the thread. I didn't WRITE any of that.

Get a grip baby. Take yer meds...
106 posted on 06/16/2003 12:21:14 AM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
That is one of the many sad parts of this. If only those who felt so compelled to take the fifth had just told the truth. America wasn't out to "get" anyone. The Soviets were a threat to us and everyone else in the world. All we wanted was that threat ended. Yours is not the only family torn apart by what the left did. They wanted to protect the Democrat party. So they lied. And lied and lied. For decades. Even when they knew the truth.
107 posted on 06/16/2003 12:24:08 AM PDT by DPB101 ("Smearing good people like Alger Hiss and Lauchlin Currie is . . .unforgivable"---Eleanor Roosevelt)
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To: Bonaparte
I was just relaying what I'd casually read.

Now that I'm starting to do serious research - against my will - my opinions are changing. It now seems to me that the Soviets thought they could save serious time and money through espionage.

But I'm only a couple of hours into it. I don't take my present opinions any more seriously than I took my earlier, completely casual ones. I'd argue them but I wouldn't be surprised to find that these too are wrong.

108 posted on 06/16/2003 12:24:18 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: DPB101
I think these days we're just smarter. We're not able to be spoon fed by the propagandaists. They don't own our minds as they once did.

The internet is great for the Right. It seems we are gaining and they are losing. Even in San Francisco. Weird.

If it wasn't for Free Republic we Right Leaning People would be marginalized. Especially in liberal lands like San Francisco. I have learned about other liberal cities ("Ithaca Is The City Of Evil" guy, Massachusettes is just as liberal as California...etc). It's great and I don't feel so alone.



109 posted on 06/16/2003 12:31:31 AM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
You take your meds, get a grip, and the next time you post something, other than your own words, do say so. It wasn't obvious, baby, that you were reposting someone else's words.

BTW ... I have read the entire thread and have excellent reading comprehension. Perhaps a reading of your post, to which I replied, would help you. ;^)

110 posted on 06/16/2003 12:32:12 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: liberallarry
It would behoove you, to NOT post opinions based of little to no factual information. You reply with emotions, not intellect, based soley upon propaganda/biased reportage, and your own abject lack of knowledge.
111 posted on 06/16/2003 12:34:46 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
If you did read the thread you will see that DPB asked someone to cut and paste from the interview which I did. See the reference as in at the bottom of the post it says what I was replying to. Then you'd see that he THANKED me for it in another post.

112 posted on 06/16/2003 12:36:15 AM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: liberallarry
Thankyou. Fair enough.
113 posted on 06/16/2003 12:36:58 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: liberallarry
Thankyou. Fair enough.
114 posted on 06/16/2003 12:38:51 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
Know what? I don't even want to beat up on Democrats over this. It would be nice if the Cold War ended. But liberals must admit the truth. They must stop it with the "McCarthyism" and "violation of civil liberties" stuff.

There were traitors, many of them, in the Democrat party. They did horrible harm to America. But that doesn't mean liberals today have to go into a cave and die. They can participate. I don't like them but I'll accept their right to push for their little social programs and the rest of it. But they have to be honest. And they are not.

115 posted on 06/16/2003 12:40:35 AM PDT by DPB101 ("Smearing good people like Alger Hiss and Lauchlin Currie is . . .unforgivable"---Eleanor Roosevelt)
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To: liberallarry
Many of the " intellectuals ", throught American history, have been on the wrong side of issues, as well as fighting for anarchists, spies, and murdering louts. The Sacho & Venzetti ytials pulled in a parading and writing horde of supposed intellectual leading lights. They were also praising such outright thugs as the Black Panthers and today, Mumia.

Again, you're assuming that because you don't know much, neither does anyone else here. That everyone else is debating from strength of factual knowledge and you are attempting refutiation, based on soke, is your problem.

116 posted on 06/16/2003 12:42:21 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
Yes, Dick Morris IS Jewish and he IS Cohn's cousin.
117 posted on 06/16/2003 12:43:55 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
It wasn't until I saw BPB thank you ( after I had replied to you ) that I realized that you had CCPed it. You should have stated it up front. Now, dear, get off your high horse and back to slugging it out with the one Kool Aid drinker on this thread; who isn't me. LOL
118 posted on 06/16/2003 12:50:43 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Interesting.

But they have their *weird* *icky* things with both of them. Although both were/are Republican Jews. Cohn was flaming and Morris..a smart man but that incident of his is stomach churning.

And the fact that BOTH are related to Jules Feiffer is incredible. That family has both sides of the fence there.
119 posted on 06/16/2003 12:51:52 AM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: nopardons
You're right...I should have linked it...but I felt a bit lazy at the time. Ok, I'm off my high horse...
120 posted on 06/16/2003 12:53:12 AM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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